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Message started by paulmarshall on 09/14/12 at 20:04:20

Title: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/14/12 at 20:04:20

Striped down Savage ready for face lift, Watch this space

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Post by EJID on 09/14/12 at 21:52:03

Quite the dis-heartening sight to see one dissected and on the table/floor like that  :(

You are just doing a face lift, right? Not an autopsy?  :-?

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/14/12 at 22:04:33

She is a 1988 LS400. I have brought a 1988 LS650 engine with recent work. I also got insired by a you Tube clip from Hungary, of a LS650 all in white including frame. Look stunning.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/14/12 at 22:06:28

Paste this on you Tube." Suzuki Ls 650 bobber from Hungary"

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/14/12 at 22:10:40

Because the Savage is quite a small bike, My theory is to give it the illusion of being bigger.Fat people wear black to look slimer and white makes people look bigger. Well thats my opinion.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by ToesNose on 09/15/12 at 04:05:17

I normally don't care for white bikes, but that one is pretty cool looking. I bet a tastfull minimalist black pin stripe job to carry on with the seat piping would make it stand out more   ;)

Best of luck with the project and your vision!   :)

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by Paraquat on 09/15/12 at 09:19:05


5647534A4B4754554E474A4A260 wrote:
Paste this on you Tube." Suzuki Ls 650 bobber from Hungary"


I like his bags but that's about it.
I stripped down an EX500 and painted the frame blue and the fairing white. Looked alright. Sold it before I finished the engine.


--Steve

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by Serowbot on 09/15/12 at 09:46:58


3726322B2A2635342F262B2B470 wrote:
Striped down Savage ready for face lift, Watch this space

Gonna' check back in 4 hours,.. see how it's progressing... ;D...

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/15/12 at 11:48:39

More like 4 Weeks.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/15/12 at 20:07:43

Removed front tank mounts as new tank screws straight onto wishbone. Bead blasted and sanded frame and swing arm. Grinded passenger mounts off swing arm and filled in holes ready for sanding. Next is base coat with primer.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/15/12 at 23:06:25

Swing arm ready for sanding and base coat tomorrow

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Post by Serowbot on 09/16/12 at 07:16:15

Woo woo!..  I was kidding about checking back in a couple of hours... ;D...

I would still be staring at the pile of parts... :-?...

;)...

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/16/12 at 20:52:55

Picked up custom tank today after having mounting tag welded.
Put some filler on and will let dry over night. Will sand tomorrow and paint with primer.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/16/12 at 20:55:08

Frame and mounting brackets ready for primer too. Waiting to have everything ready before i start priming.

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/17/12 at 02:29:29

Overnite bondo is gonna be hard. I sure wouldnt wanna do that,,

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/17/12 at 11:52:25

You are right I will give everything a light sand and blast with air hose before I prime.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/17/12 at 20:27:17

This is the primer i used, 10 parts primer 1 part Thinners.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/17/12 at 20:28:38

Parts primed

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/17/12 at 20:29:29

Parts Primed

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/18/12 at 19:21:24

First coat of white.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/18/12 at 19:22:09

First coat of white.

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Post by ToesNose on 09/19/12 at 04:51:14

You're moving along at a nice pace Paul, looking good so far  =)

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by elitemunkeycrew on 09/19/12 at 08:32:20


2E3F2B32333F2C2D363F32325E0 wrote:
First coat of white.


Please give instructions on how you mount the tank. I've been wanting a peanut style tank for quite some time but don't know what to get and what fits. I'm not a good mechanic but have some DIY skills. An instructional video or photo woulds be very helpful.

Here are the tanks I've been scoping:
http://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=412

Based on the dimensions given on the website do you think it would fit the Savage frame?

http://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1212

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/19/12 at 12:29:04

Hi, this is the same tank that I brought, "http://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1212"
I took it to a engineering shop and got the bottom tab removed, and a piece of steel welded into the arch and about 100mm long which will reach the original tank mounts. The top tab I left in place and drilled a hole through the tab and wish bone. I am going to use a tap to cut a thread in the wish bone and bolt tank to wish bone.You could get a nut welded to the wish bone. Will glue some padding ( pipe insulation) so not to have a metal to metal connection. As I proceed I will take pics and post.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by Arnold on 09/19/12 at 12:56:34

Bought a mustang tank with the same kind of tabs, had to screw around to get it to fit the frame, luckily my neighbor is a welder. We welded a tab at the bottom and a post to the front on the frame, drilled the top tab, attached the tank with a nut on the post, this is the result:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8424/7563101084_09b081c576_b.jpg

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by elitemunkeycrew on 09/19/12 at 13:52:31


6B7E6566666F7E6F780A0 wrote:
Bought a mustang tank with the same kind of tabs, had to screw around to get it to fit the frame, luckily my neighbor is a welder. We welded a tab at the bottom and a post to the front on the frame, drilled the top tab, attached the tank with a nut on the post, this is the result:


Do you have a clearer closeup picture of what you did?

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by elitemunkeycrew on 09/19/12 at 14:00:43


3120342D2C20333229202D2D410 wrote:
Hi, this is the same tank that I brought, "http://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1212"
I took it to a engineering shop and got the bottom tab removed, and a piece of steel welded into the arch and about 100mm long which will reach the original tank mounts. The top tab I left in place and drilled a hole through the tab and wish bone. I am going to use a tap to cut a thread in the wish bone and bolt tank to wish bone.You could get a nut welded to the wish bone. Will glue some padding ( pipe insulation) so not to have a metal to metal connection. As I proceed I will take pics and post.


I like what these guys did for mounting the tank.
http://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/index.php?l=page_view&p=tech_mount_motorcycle_gas_tank

This would work on your tank for the front tab and it looks nice.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/19/12 at 17:16:45

Custom rear guard and white heat rap arrived today from "Blue Collar Bobbers". Excellent quality. Will have to give guard a first coat to catch up.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by Arnold on 09/19/12 at 18:55:30


5F56534E5F574F54515F4359485F4D3A0 wrote:
[quote author=6B7E6566666F7E6F780A0 link=1347678277/15#24 date=1348084594]Bought a mustang tank with the same kind of tabs, had to screw around to get it to fit the frame, luckily my neighbor is a welder. We welded a tab at the bottom and a post to the front on the frame, drilled the top tab, attached the tank with a nut on the post, this is the result:


Do you have a clearer closeup picture of what you did?[/quote]


That's all I had right now, but I'll post pictures tomorrow.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by Arnold on 09/20/12 at 07:11:49

Here's a picture of front and rear attachments, welded another piece to the tab on the rear, drilled and mounted to my seat bracket:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8456/8006169684_281c3f8c2d_z.jpg

And welded a post on the frame, drilled the front tab and bolted to it:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8454/8006166615_bc3ab7c027_z.jpg

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by elitemunkeycrew on 09/20/12 at 08:06:34


01140F0C0C05140512600 wrote:
Here's a picture of front and rear attachments, welded another piece to the tab on the rear, drilled and mounted to my seat bracket:


And welded a post on the frame, drilled the front tab and bolted to it:


Thanks for the photo Arnold I really really appreciate it. :) :) :) :)

I like what you did for the rear because I have the BCB seat bracket as well and that was an issue I was going to have to address. Thanks, now that problem is solved.

For the front mount why did you have to sit the tank so high? Would it not mount flush? I like it but, it won't look right for the tank that I want because the tank already sits high.

Also if you have a chance could you snap a photo of how you mounted that speedometer?  :-[

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by elitemunkeycrew on 09/20/12 at 08:09:57


6D7C6871707C6F6E757C71711D0 wrote:
Custom rear guard and white heat rap arrived today from "Blue Collar Bobbers". Excellent quality. Will have to give guard a first coat to catch up.


I can't wait to see the bike finished  :) :) :) :) :)

I feel like I'm watching an episode of American Chopper and I just want to see a finished bike already.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by Arnold on 09/20/12 at 08:16:22


353C3924353D253E3B352933223527500 wrote:
[quote author=01140F0C0C05140512600 link=1347678277/15#29 date=1348150309]Here's a picture of front and rear attachments, welded another piece to the tab on the rear, drilled and mounted to my seat bracket:


And welded a post on the frame, drilled the front tab and bolted to it:


Thanks for the photo Arnold I really really appreciate it. :) :) :) :)

I like what you did for the rear because I have the BCB seat bracket as well and that was an issue I was going to have to address. Thanks, now that problem is solved.

For the front mount why did you have to sit the tank so high? Would it not mount flush? I like it but, it won't look right for the tank that I want because the tank already sits high.

Also if you have a chance could you snap a photo of how you mounted that speedometer?  :-[/quote]

You'll have to tap the BCB seat bracket, it's made of aluminum, tough to go through but very solid once attached.

As for the front, all sort of things start touching if I lower it, mostly the gigantic petcock that came with the tank.

I'll go out in the parking lot and snap the speedo. Stand by.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by Arnold on 09/20/12 at 08:30:31

Speedo is 2:1 ratio, attached to a tab, mounted to the head using the threads of the long gone fairings:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8304/8006393267_0ff61c5714_z.jpg

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Post by elitemunkeycrew on 09/20/12 at 10:43:50

Thanks Arnold :) :)

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/20/12 at 20:43:36

I have put a first coat on my custom rear fender. But have run out of hardener and will have to wait till Wed before I can put on second coat.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/20/12 at 20:49:57

How ever the lack of paint hardener will not put project on hold. I brought some wide white insulation tape which I am going to wrap around the wiring loom.
And tomorrow I will mount the rectifier into the air box.

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Post by Cavi Mike on 09/20/12 at 21:02:04

If you plan on removing the old tape first, be prepared for a sticky mess. I'd just wrap right over the old wiring.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/20/12 at 22:12:39

I was thinking of just going over the old tape and use white cable ties. I'm also looking at covering the clutch and break cables. Does anyone know if their is such a product like flexi tubing>

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/20/12 at 23:18:22

Its ok I have found just the right stuff to cover cables. Will take pics when I have them.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/21/12 at 19:34:15

wrapped the wiring loom with white tape.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/21/12 at 19:37:39

Remounted the rectifier in the air box. drilled two hole and bolted it in, applied some lock tight just in case bolts started to work themselves loose. Fitted perfectly.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/21/12 at 19:38:39

remounted rectifier

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/21/12 at 21:08:22

All Right! That may be just the answer! That rectifier mite just clip the pulses on the airflow &  help it deliver a smoother flow of air.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/22/12 at 20:38:19

Not alot of progress I'm afraid as I am waiting for more hardener so I can paint last coat. So I fitted the swing arm with new roller bearings and grease. I wanted to have swing arm installed in case I scrap paint work during installation.
Today is Sun in NZ and wont have any updates till Wed.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by srinath on 09/23/12 at 18:24:36

You didn't need to "Mount" the rectifier in the airbox, it sints in there just fine with nowhere to go if you just dropped it in.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/23/12 at 20:04:07

Yea I know I suffer from perfectionism.

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/24/12 at 00:24:02

It may be just fine, just droppin it in there, but I couldnt do it that way either,,I have to do things neatly,

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/25/12 at 18:01:15

Hardener arrived a day early so applied final coat. Will let harden for 2 -3 days before putting back together.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/26/12 at 23:00:16

Seat arrived today from the upholestery. Had it recovered in white and the padding is cut lower to the seat pan. Hoping this will let me sit lower and also help to create my vision.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/26/12 at 23:01:03

Seat mod

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/28/12 at 20:06:35

Polished the alloy on the steering stem today, Came up looking like chome.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/28/12 at 20:10:40

Also polished the left and right hand indicator brackets. Will start to reasemble front end onto frame tomorrow.
Before

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/28/12 at 20:11:24

And after

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/28/12 at 20:44:52

After

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Post by heroicseven on 09/28/12 at 21:00:49

How did you get the metal to polish so well!! It looks amazing!

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/28/12 at 21:07:16

It was very easy only took a hour or so. I used a Eastwood polishing kit. I first sanded it first with 240 then 600 and finally with 1200. then I used the Eastwood polishing kit. The best money I have ever spent.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/28/12 at 21:15:02

When I sanded it I didnt sand all the marks out, only to remove the oxidizing. The polishing kit does all the work.There are different wheels and compounds that you use. The polishing wheels fit into a power or battery drill. However I have found the battery doesnt spin fast enough. I then mounted the drill into a vice and used it like a buffing wheel.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by heroicseven on 09/28/12 at 21:42:28

Awesome tips thanks! I dont know why I never thought to put my drill in the vice, Ill look around for that kit aswell, looks like hard work be paying off! Cant wait to see the finished bike.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by srinath on 09/28/12 at 21:43:56

The good clean aluminum parts like the risers of the s40 etc will polish out rather well. The turn signals brackets are a bit dirty aluminum. Polish up they will, but they would be needing to be polished pretty often or they get tarnished rather quick.
Cool.
Srinath.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/28/12 at 22:51:00

I havent been able to find a clear coating that wont discolor or leave a noticable lumpy coat. I do put on a coat of Mothers Polish at the end. The front sprocket cover I polished a year ago and no signs of oxidation yet. I dont mind putting a polish wheel on the end of my drill once a month to keep the shine.

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Post by arteacher on 09/29/12 at 05:22:08

I sprayed mine with a couple of light coats of clear lacquer.

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/29/12 at 05:26:52

I shot a rattle can clear on my aluminum stuff. If it starts looking yellow or cracking off in a few years, its okay.. I have a hard time believing it wont last longer than the factory stuff,, time will tell,,
Prolee wont tell Me, cuz Im still planning on selling it,,

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 09/29/12 at 10:54:22

Got any pics of what your alloy looks like with clear lacquer? Did the alloy keep its shine?

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/29/12 at 19:58:11

Due to family appointments I didnt have time to put front end back together, but did manage to polish some more parts. Will reasemble front end tomorrow.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/29/12 at 19:58:53

Before

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/29/12 at 19:59:34

After

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/29/12 at 20:00:40

Before and After

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/29/12 at 20:01:55

Painted parts hardening in the sun.

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Post by ralfyguy on 09/30/12 at 11:55:18

I polished my clutch cover a couple of years ago and I just put on car wax frequently and try not to get it rained on. It did once and let it sit overnight and the drop etched into the aluminum. But the. At wax really keeps it shiny as long as no water stays on for long.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/30/12 at 19:20:39

Installed triple tree and forks today.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/30/12 at 19:22:38

Also glass bead blasted the carb today.
Before

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/30/12 at 19:23:22

After

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/30/12 at 19:26:03

Before

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/30/12 at 19:26:46

After

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/30/12 at 19:42:57

For those of you wanting to know what I used to polish, This is what I used.

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/30/12 at 19:44:45

And for those that dont have a polishing wheel, this is what I did. The drill in the vice trick. It pays to have a variable speed drill and have it set to full speed, and reverse helps when cleaning. I use the hack saw blade and hold it up to the wheel in forward and then reverse to keep wheel clean.

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Post by J C Stokes on 09/30/12 at 20:56:23

What part of NZ are you in?

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Post by paulmarshall on 09/30/12 at 21:15:23

Carterton.

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Post by Gyrobob on 10/01/12 at 06:09:14

Plain spray lacquer clear coat often doesn't hold up to heat very well long-term, nor is it made to hold up to the severe conditions encountered on motorcycles.  

Yamaha used to have a thick clear coat designed to use on polished aluminum engine cases.  Maybe they still make it.

Dupli-color and Rustoleum both make clear gloss engine paint that holds up pretty well. It isn't as convenient to use as plain old clear gloss lacquer, and the finish needs to be rubbed a bit if you want a "wet" look, but it is WAY more durable.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by Gyrobob on 10/01/12 at 06:11:56


3A3B2027283D21490 wrote:
The good clean aluminum parts like the risers of the s40 etc will polish out rather well. The turn signals brackets are a bit dirty aluminum. Polish up they will, but they would be needing to be polished pretty often or they get tarnished rather quick.
Cool.
Srinath.


Paint them with Dupli-color or Rustoleum clear gloss engine paint.

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/02/12 at 20:33:29

Not alot of progress today but managed to make up and polish a bracket to lift headlight. will take photos when its mounted.

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/02/12 at 20:34:04

After

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/04/12 at 18:15:17

Roller bearings for steering stem arrived today so managed to get frame down onto the floor where she belongs.

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/04/12 at 18:16:44

Making progress

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/04/12 at 18:17:48

Making progress

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/04/12 at 18:18:43

Making progress

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/04/12 at 18:19:58

Engine arrived back today with new cam.

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/04/12 at 18:25:48

I brought a semi synthetic oil this time. The bike shop suggested I try this as the mineral oil keeps parts coated due to its thickness, and the synthetic oil moves around the engine quickly on start up. It should be good at $73 for 4 litres. unfortunitly I brought it from a Yamaha shop...

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/04/12 at 18:30:10

Also got oil filter, spark plug,gaskets and clear chain silicon. $450 later a very expensive day.

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/22/12 at 23:07:07

Installed Motor

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/22/12 at 23:08:51

Up and running with a 170 rear tyre.

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/22/12 at 23:10:04

Up and running with a 170 rear tyre. And tank mounted.This is with the wheel pushed completely forward. there is about 5mm clearence to the front of swing arm. when i put on chain and pull wheel back this will increase. The wheel is now a 16".

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/22/12 at 23:10:44

Up and running with a 170 rear tyre. And tank mounted.

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/22/12 at 23:16:19

Rear gaurd sitting on wheel and not mounted yet.

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/23/12 at 00:03:24

Im diggin that,, Nice job,

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/23/12 at 16:42:13

First ride

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/23/12 at 16:43:28

First ride

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/23/12 at 16:44:09

First ride

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/23/12 at 16:45:03

First ride

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Post by Demin on 10/23/12 at 17:17:27

Looks good!!! I like it....ALOT. 8-)

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Post by rfw2003 on 10/23/12 at 18:05:34

looking really good.  Love how it all came together.

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Post by v-pilot on 10/23/12 at 20:22:50

Man...That's Bad ASS! :o

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/23/12 at 20:45:43

Does a V pilot fly a Bonanza?

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Post by ToesNose on 10/24/12 at 03:38:05

She came out very clean looking, great job Paul   ;)

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/24/12 at 06:14:03

Once that rear fender is on there to carry that paint scheme on back, its gonna be Waay sharp.,.a white seat? I didnt see that comin,, that looks real good.. Did you do it?


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Post by elitemunkeycrew on 10/24/12 at 08:25:36

I really like the color scheme on this bike.

It's all white white a hint of browns and looks really good.

Here is the full article on the bike:
http://www.pipeburn.com/home/2012/9/29/kingstons-royal-enfield-500-no5.html

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 10/25/12 at 11:01:52


2A353334292E1F2F1F27353972400 wrote:
Once that rear fender is on there to carry that paint scheme on back, its gonna be Waay sharp.,.a white seat? I didnt see that comin,, that looks real good.. Did you do it?


No I payed someone to recover it.

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/25/12 at 11:03:39

I still have to wrap the header pipe with some white exhaust wrap and chrome the tail pipe.

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Post by paulmarshall on 10/26/12 at 10:53:16

I had 'Wheel & Spoke Services' fit a custom 16/4.25 36 spoke Morad rim  to my stock hub to replace the stock 15 2.75 rim, and a set of 8/9 Butted stainless steel spokes. By removing the rear foot peg mounts i was able to fit a 170 tyre using the stock spacers. I did however moved the front sprocket spacer from the outside to the inside and used longer bolts on the rear sprocket and spaced out the rear sprocket. I have been advised by professional racers who has done this is you can off set a rim by 4mm before noticing any difference in performance. And this is on racing bikes.
I then did some research and asked a number of bike shops and all agreed  that there would be no change in performance. So the rim is off set 4mm toward the chain and that's it folks a 170 fits clean and true but off set 4mm on the hub with no change in performance and safety. I wanted it offset more but the company who did the job would only go to 4mm for safety reasons. I didn't think a 170 would fit, I first ordered a 160 but could see plenty of room for a 170.So the hub is in the same place but the rim 4mm to the left. The only thing that did not fit is the chain guard. And the chain guard mounts needed modifying. The 4mm off set cannot be seen with the naked eye, I understand that the stock tyre sits to one side so maybe the 170 insinuates that more, But I promise you the tyre and rim is only 4mm to the left.  It did cost just over $1000.00 including tyre but worth every penny. I DID NOT DO THIS WORK MYSELF,All work was done by professionals in there field and done to a safe standard. I suggest that anyone wanting to do this mod do the same.

Title: Re: One sad Savage
Post by paulmarshall on 10/26/12 at 16:29:36

I will post more photos next week when my bike comes back from the shop, where the rear guard is getting mounted. Like I said earlier all work is being done by professionals to maintain a safe and road legal machine. I too never dreamed a tyre wider than a 150 could ever be fitted to a Savage, But someone helped me to think out of the box and suggested safe viable options that not only work in theory but in practice. I did not jump into this venture blindly, As I said earlier I asked questions to experts who had already done this to full on racing bikes that rely on safety and performance. My personal opinion is the the stock rear tyre on these bikes has always been the weak link, cosmetically and in performance. I too personally believe that the 170 gives the Savage the muscle look it well deserves.

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