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Message started by Ed L. on 09/09/12 at 12:56:03

Title: More fun Stuff that Goes Boom
Post by Ed L. on 09/09/12 at 12:56:03

Here is more gun porn,
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/Beeboy01/Long%20Guns/Remington700BDLLH01.jpg
It's my Remington 700 BDL Left Handed in 30-06 just "out of the closet"
This one is a Sedgley Springfield 30-06 which I'm just finishing up a restoration and cleanup on
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/Beeboy01/Long%20Guns/SedgleySpringfield02.jpg
Can you spot the over pressures? just a little bit on the hot side
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/Beeboy01/Long%20Guns/BerdanPrimer02.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/Beeboy01/Long%20Guns/SedgleySpringfieldPS02.jpg
Another shot of the peep sight
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/Beeboy01/Long%20Guns/SedgleySpringfieldPS04.jpg

Title: Re: More fun Stuff that Goes Boom
Post by Pine on 09/09/12 at 17:38:17

Nice!!!

Digging that old school peep sight...

yeah them primers backing out... jest a tich....

Title: Re: More fun Stuff that Goes Boom
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/09/12 at 23:41:44

I know how a 30-06 kicks. Is there an appreciable difference between an overpressure shot & a normal shot?

How many of those $$$ eatin monsters you need?

I like the 2nd one better, IDK why,, I just do.

Title: Re: More fun Stuff that Goes Boom
Post by ToesNose on 09/10/12 at 04:43:51

Nice guns Ed :)

And yea 30-06 is a great round, I've got a Korean War era M-1 Garand that is a blast to shoot :D

Title: Re: More fun Stuff that Goes Boom
Post by DaTrader on 09/10/12 at 06:09:24

Love That Sight! Great Gun Porn!

Title: Re: More fun Stuff that Goes Boom
Post by Ed L. on 09/10/12 at 07:35:04

JOG, I am working with reloading Berdan or NATO primered brass instead of the boxer type. The berdan brass had the primers pushed out while the boxers with the same load were fine. I can't feel any difference with the kick, just about any load in 30-06 is a bruiser. I'm staying away from the 180 grain reloads, they can get brutal. I picked up 250 tracer rounds with berdan brass for $19.95 a few years ago and am pulling the tracer slug and reloading a 150 grain spitzer. It is only costing twentyfive cents a round to feed my need. The berdan brass is real nice, if I can find a source for primers I'll try reloading them also. Gotta start working on some lighter loads for the next trip to the range.
I bought the Remington back in 1980 for hunting and have had it stored in the closet for a good 10 years. The Springfield came from my Dad, I grabbed it back in '91 when he died and am cleaning it up. I don't think it had been fired in over 35 years or cleaned in 40 years. It had a 2 3/4 X scope on it which I pulled to install the peep sight that came with the rifle and is orignal military issue.

Title: Re: More fun Stuff that Goes Boom
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/10/12 at 08:22:05

& all this time Ive heard Berdan Cant be reloaded.. I always wondered why not. & Now, you say youre doing it..

dang..

25 cents a pop? That pretty cheap for one O those,,I wouldnt spend more than a dollar, anyway,,they kick too hard,,

Title: Re: More fun Stuff that Goes Boom
Post by Ed L. on 09/10/12 at 13:52:18

That recoil pad on the Remington is home made out of scrap leather and is padded with some cut up flip flops. I can shoot all day long with it. I must of fired over 3 dozen rounds at the range Friday and really didn't feel it. Without the recoil pad I get bruised up by ten shots. Don't know how the men in the service did it during WW1 and WW2, guess if you don't have a choice you just do it.
The berdan primers come out by running a small drill in on the firing pin dent at 45 degrees. Once the drill cuts through the primer I pry it out with a sharp awl. It's another step but who cares. Pressing the new primer in can be done with any reloading press just like a boxer type. I found a source for the berdan primers at Graf and Sons and went ahead and ordered some. They are made by Tulammo, the same people who offer the cheap ammo at Walmart. I guess I don't like being told I can't do something when it looks like I can.

Title: Re: More fun Stuff that Goes Boom
Post by Boofer on 09/12/12 at 00:07:00

I have never suffered from recoil problems from 30-06, .45-70, 12 guage etc, but I have a little CVA $99 muzzle loader that hurts me every time. I spent an outragous $30 on a Sims Vibration Lab butt pad and it works great. Why a 325 grain slug on 90 gr of RS hurts I can't figure, but it is very accurate with open sights. Before you sell a good gun that kicks you try the SVL butt pad. I was surprised at how well it works. ;)

Title: Re: More fun Stuff that Goes Boom
Post by Wolfman on 09/12/12 at 02:12:47

Ed, military brass is thicker then civilian brass by a bit. Used to use a lot of 223 NATO stuff when i was shooting competition.
I had to drop my load by 2.5 gr from a 25gr load and still got the same velocity and pressure id of got from civilian brass.

Another lil trick is replace the decapping pin in your die with a nice small nail. Its tougher then the reg pin and will 'usually' pop that primer right out.
Dont know about berden but the nato brass had a small lip pressed in over the primer to keep it from backing out. Deburring tool took care of that after the primer was out.

Be carefull of the military brass and over pressure. The stuff is actually more brittle then the civilian stuff. With high pressures it has a tendency for Head separation after a couple of reloadings.
Pain in the arse to get the case out when the head pops off, especially in the middle of a Match...lol

Title: Re: More fun Stuff that Goes Boom
Post by WD on 09/12/12 at 04:44:03

Nice rifles. .30/06 doesn't seem to have much in the way of recoil to me. Neither did my .45/70 trapdoor Springfield (the good infantry "musket" version).

Now I do have a couple " nose buster" handguns... .410 H&R and a .45 cap and ball Ruger Old Army. 35gr load of Triple7 fffg equivalent is the hottest recommended, I've shot 50 gr and near broke my shoulder. 5gr of Triple7 and a 30gr Pyrodex pellet, thick wonder wad (lubed wool felt) and a .457 round ball is perfect.

Reloading miltary brass? Can't get hold of the good stuff? I wouldn't reload anything other than Norma brass, expensive but worth it. Clean, pure, strong. Dad always had a box or two of Norma match grade .243 for his pre-64 Model 70, which has maybe a 2 ounce trigger pull. Turn off the safety... don't pass gas, the rifle will fire...

Title: Re: More fun Stuff that Goes Boom
Post by Wolfman on 09/12/12 at 12:35:01

Nice thing about military brass is if you got a buddy on base you can get thousands of once fired hulls for a 6 pack...lol

Title: Re: More fun Stuff that Goes Boom
Post by WD on 09/13/12 at 03:49:38

Ready to shoot factory .223 is cheaper here than the components to reload it. $20/1000 round case.