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Title: New TKAT fork brace Post by lacon on 09/06/12 at 17:30:35 Arrived in the mail today. Easy install, snug fit. Current cost shipped in the U.S. is $95. http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u513/llaconb/IMG_4404.jpg |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by ToesNose on 09/07/12 at 03:57:58 Looks sharp ;) |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/07/12 at 05:22:05 I like them, |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by bill67 on 09/07/12 at 05:49:14 544B4D4A5750615161594B470C3E0 wrote:
I did too,Then the next time I went for the Super Brace and upgrade.Which is a custom fit for the S40. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/07/12 at 06:11:49 565D58580203340 wrote:
I did too,Then the next time I when for the Super Brace and upgrade.Which is a custom fit for the S40.[/quote] The next when you post please when a sentence.I dont whenderstand whent youre saying, |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by Pine on 09/07/12 at 09:31:47 That sure is sexy!!! Does it affect the ride ( to you) ... some says its great, others .. meh. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by lacon on 09/07/12 at 15:28:41 I rode about 80 + miles today & really could not tell any difference. But then I didn't have a problem before, & I'm a pretty conservative rider as well. So, you could say I did not "need" it - but I did want it. Who knows, maybe I'll get in a tight spot sometime & it might make a difference. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by arteacher on 09/07/12 at 15:37:10 Ride it on a bad road. Then you'll see a difference. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by Gyrobob on 09/07/12 at 19:32:04 57484E4954536252625A48440F3D0 wrote:
I did too,Then the next time I when for the Super Brace and upgrade.Which is a custom fit for the S40.[/quote] The next when you post please when a sentence.I dont whenderstand whent youre saying, [/quote] But,How would it we figher the way toget it the fit, but then. ? |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by tizzyfit on 09/07/12 at 23:14:11 7A6F78787473757D160 wrote:
I installed a TKAT fork brace 4 months ago. There is a 2 mile section of road that needs resurfacing in the worse way, which is the only way in and out of the area where I live. Without a doubt, the TKAT fork brace improves the front end stability. Your results may vary based on speed, road condition, weight and over-all riding style. At 60-70 mph on the interstate, my S-40 seems to have a much more positive track with the TKAT. I've got the stock tires on the bike with 2,800 miles on them. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/08/12 at 04:01:56 58666D707D707D1F0 wrote:
I did too,Then the next time I when for the Super Brace and upgrade.Which is a custom fit for the S40.[/quote] The next when you post please when a sentence.I dont whenderstand whent youre saying, [/quote] But,How would it we figher the way toget it the fit, but then. ?[/quote] You know? I never even considered it from that point of view! YOure absolutely right,, |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by Gyrobob on 09/08/12 at 06:22:16 67787E7964635262526A78743F0D0 wrote:
I did too,Then the next time I when for the Super Brace and upgrade.Which is a custom fit for the S40.[/quote] The next when you post please when a sentence.I dont whenderstand whent youre saying, [/quote] But,How would it we figher the way toget it the fit, but then. ?[/quote] You know? I never even considered it from that point of view! YOure absolutely right,, [/quote] your right to |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by tizzyfit on 09/11/12 at 11:18:24 42494C4C1617200 wrote:
I did too,Then the next time I went for the Super Brace and upgrade.Which is a custom fit for the S40.[/quote] Bill, I'm confused..........What is the difference between the TKAT fork brace, which is made specifically for the LS650/S40 and the Super Brace, which is custom fit??????? My guess is, it would be fair and reasonable to say both are "custom fit" because if they weren't, they wouldn't fit. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by bill67 on 09/11/12 at 11:34:57 You see the slots where it can slide,the super brace is fixed made for the S40.I have had both,The super brace is better and stronger.Bridges are made arced not flat for a reason.And theres more pieces in the tkat,so it would give more under hard conditions. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by tizzyfit on 09/11/12 at 13:26:43 717A7F7F2524130 wrote:
I didn't realize we were now discussing the finer points of bridge construction. The fork brace, your choice, is to reduce/eliminate lateral movement of a span of approximately 6". It would appear to me, both braces are over-engineered for their intended purpose. Both braces come in parts that need to be assembled. Take a close look at the TKAT brace, notice the Alan head bolts in each of the 4 corners? Now then, compare that anchoring system to that of the Super Brace......See any difference? Notice the difference in the thickness of the two braces? Common sense would suggest the thicker components would flex less than components 50% thinner, wouldn't you agree? Here's a simple experiment you can try in order to grasp my point. Find an anvil, now then, try and bend it? Any luck? Now then, get a hacksaw blade out, place your thumb and fore-finger on each end and try and bend it. Fairly easy to bend, isn't it? Could it be, had the hacksaw blade been as thick as the anvil, it wouldn't have bent? |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by bill67 on 09/11/12 at 13:29:56 5F425151524D425F2B0 wrote:
I didn't realize we were now discussing the finer points of bridge construction. The fork brace, your choice, is to reduce/eliminate lateral movement of a span of approximately 6". It would appear to me, both braces are over-engineered for their intended purpose. Both braces come in parts that need to be assembled. Take a close look at the TKAT brace, notice the Alan head bolts in each of the 4 corners? Now then, compare that anchoring system to that of the Super Brace......See any difference? Notice the difference in the thickness of the two braces? Common sense would suggest the thicker components would flex less than components 50% thinner, wouldn't you agree? Here's a simple experiment you can try in order to grasp my point. Find an anvil, now then, try and bend it? Any luck? Now then, get a hacksaw blade out, place your thumb and fore-finger on each end and try and bend it. Fairly easy to bend, isn't it? Could it be, had the hacksaw blade been as thick as the anvil, it wouldn't have bent? [/quote] When you have used both then tell me which one is best and why. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by ralfyguy on 09/11/12 at 15:37:09 I bet part of it is also the fact that you simply have it mounted on there gives you the feeling that it MUST be better just because it is there. I never had one on my bike so I don't know, BUT I heard people say that they could tell a difference and I heard others that said they couldn't. That suggests to me that it cannot be that dramatic. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by tizzyfit on 09/11/12 at 15:51:16 353E3B3B6160570 wrote:
I didn't realize we were now discussing the finer points of bridge construction. The fork brace, your choice, is to reduce/eliminate lateral movement of a span of approximately 6". It would appear to me, both braces are over-engineered for their intended purpose. Both braces come in parts that need to be assembled. Take a close look at the TKAT brace, notice the Alan head bolts in each of the 4 corners? Now then, compare that anchoring system to that of the Super Brace......See any difference? Notice the difference in the thickness of the two braces? Common sense would suggest the thicker components would flex less than components 50% thinner, wouldn't you agree? Here's a simple experiment you can try in order to grasp my point. Find an anvil, now then, try and bend it? Any luck? Now then, get a hacksaw blade out, place your thumb and fore-finger on each end and try and bend it. Fairly easy to bend, isn't it? Could it be, had the hacksaw blade been as thick as the anvil, it wouldn't have bent? [/quote] When you have used both then tell me which one is best and why.[/quote] Why bother, they are both over-engineered. There is absolutely nothing to gain but stroking some fools ego, by trying both. The fact of the matter is and remains, you can't bend an anvil, unless of course, you sprinkle sea foam or klutz on it, I guess. ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by bill67 on 09/11/12 at 16:12:25 48554646455A55483C0 wrote:
I didn't realize we were now discussing the finer points of bridge construction. The fork brace, your choice, is to reduce/eliminate lateral movement of a span of approximately 6". It would appear to me, both braces are over-engineered for their intended purpose. Both braces come in parts that need to be assembled. Take a close look at the TKAT brace, notice the Alan head bolts in each of the 4 corners? Now then, compare that anchoring system to that of the Super Brace......See any difference? Notice the difference in the thickness of the two braces? Common sense would suggest the thicker components would flex less than components 50% thinner, wouldn't you agree? Here's a simple experiment you can try in order to grasp my point. Find an anvil, now then, try and bend it? Any luck? Now then, get a hacksaw blade out, place your thumb and fore-finger on each end and try and bend it. Fairly easy to bend, isn't it? Could it be, had the hacksaw blade been as thick as the anvil, it wouldn't have bent? [/quote] When you have used both then tell me which one is best and why.[/quote] Why bother, they are both over-engineered. There is absolutely nothing to gain but stroking some fools ego, by trying both. The fact of the matter is and remains, you can't bend an anvil, unless of course, you sprinkle sea foam or klutz on it, I guess. ;D ;D ;D[/quote] Good point you got there,I'm going to make a hacksaw blade out of a anvil,Thanks. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by Charon on 09/11/12 at 16:24:46 I have been wanting to see a "blind" test of a fork brace. Using a professional rider who at least should be able to tell the difference, fit a bike with a fork brace and hide it with, say, a leather cover. Test ride the bike. Then do whatever it takes to disable or remove the brace, but leave the leather cover in place so the rider cannot see it. Retest, and see if that rider can tell the difference. Have the rider test the bike several times, but without knowing whether the brace is operable or not. Might be interesting to do it with an "average" rider, and perhaps a new rider as well. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by tizzyfit on 09/11/12 at 16:40:49 000B0E0E5455620 wrote:
;D ;D ;D ;D I didn't realize we were now discussing the finer points of bridge construction. The fork brace, your choice, is to reduce/eliminate lateral movement of a span of approximately 6". It would appear to me, both braces are over-engineered for their intended purpose. Both braces come in parts that need to be assembled. Take a close look at the TKAT brace, notice the Alan head bolts in each of the 4 corners? Now then, compare that anchoring system to that of the Super Brace......See any difference? Notice the difference in the thickness of the two braces? Common sense would suggest the thicker components would flex less than components 50% thinner, wouldn't you agree? Here's a simple experiment you can try in order to grasp my point. Find an anvil, now then, try and bend it? Any luck? Now then, get a hacksaw blade out, place your thumb and fore-finger on each end and try and bend it. Fairly easy to bend, isn't it? Could it be, had the hacksaw blade been as thick as the anvil, it wouldn't have bent? [/quote] When you have used both then tell me which one is best and why.[/quote] Why bother, they are both over-engineered. There is absolutely nothing to gain but stroking some fools ego, by trying both. The fact of the matter is and remains, you can't bend an anvil, unless of course, you sprinkle sea foam or klutz on it, I guess. ;D ;D ;D[/quote] Good point you got there,I'm going to make a hacksaw blade out of a anvil,Thanks.[/quote] Your logic is absolutely mind numbingly stupid. Why would anyone destroy a perfectly good anvil when they could buy a hacksaw blade at Lowe's, Home Depot or, I'm sure your favorite, Wal-Mart, for about $1. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by bill67 on 09/11/12 at 16:48:23 You gave me the idea,I would have never thought of it without you,thanks again. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by tizzyfit on 09/11/12 at 17:16:31 5E5550500A0B3C0 wrote:
Your welcome Bill. I'm delighted to know that dim bulb you use for a brain can actually reason some rudimentary things out, without causing a total and complete mental meltdown. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by Oldfeller on 09/11/12 at 17:18:37 5D405353504F405D290 wrote:
;D ;D ;D ;D I didn't realize we were now discussing the finer points of bridge construction. The fork brace, your choice, is to reduce/eliminate lateral movement of a span of approximately 6". It would appear to me, both braces are over-engineered for their intended purpose. Both braces come in parts that need to be assembled. Take a close look at the TKAT brace, notice the Alan head bolts in each of the 4 corners? Now then, compare that anchoring system to that of the Super Brace......See any difference? Notice the difference in the thickness of the two braces? Common sense would suggest the thicker components would flex less than components 50% thinner, wouldn't you agree? Here's a simple experiment you can try in order to grasp my point. Find an anvil, now then, try and bend it? Any luck? Now then, get a hacksaw blade out, place your thumb and fore-finger on each end and try and bend it. Fairly easy to bend, isn't it? Could it be, had the hacksaw blade been as thick as the anvil, it wouldn't have bent? [/quote] When you have used both then tell me which one is best and why.[/quote] Why bother, they are both over-engineered. There is absolutely nothing to gain but stroking some fools ego, by trying both. The fact of the matter is and remains, you can't bend an anvil, unless of course, you sprinkle sea foam or klutz on it, I guess. ;D ;D ;D[/quote] Good point you got there,I'm going to make a hacksaw blade out of a anvil,Thanks.[/quote] Your logic is absolutely mind numbingly stupid. Why would anyone destroy a perfectly good anvil when they could buy a hacksaw blade at Lowe's, Home Depot or, I'm sure your favorite, Wal-Mart, for about $1.[/quote] Tizzy, Please quit feeding and petting the wildlife -- much less be going around actually insulting them or arguing with them (pointless). Nothing reinforces their bad behavior worse than "discussing it" with them. This opens you up to getting your various buttons pushed which only starts another go round of verbal nonsense. Just stop ..... the response chain up on top of this post is Bill counting coup on you (6 times in a row he got you to come back at him). |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by TROX on 09/11/12 at 18:12:01 OK, so I'm in the process of bobbing my bike and so I have removed my front fender. It's probably just in my head, but did that take any support out of the forks at all and would a brace be good in this situation. Oh and one more question, the TKAT site only shows the brace for the Yamaha XS line of motorcycles, I'm guessing it's the same dimensions as our bikes ? Sorry to change the subject, I know there was some kind of battle of the wits going on or something . . . :P |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by feelinjunky on 09/11/12 at 18:31:44 25363B312E30222E570 wrote:
Yup. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by Oldfeller on 09/11/12 at 18:34:12 Most bobbers go bare as appearance is everything to the bobber crew. Yes, you did away with some designed in support since our front fender is beefed up a little bit with an integral top strap support effect. Do bobber guys care? Not really ..... Do they seem to miss it? Not really ..... :) |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by Cavi Mike on 09/11/12 at 19:46:45 What OF said described me exactly. I'm not corner-carving with my bobber, it's just to cruise, I couldn't care less. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/12/12 at 00:05:05 & the bottom 1/3rd of my pegs are ground away & I say a fork brace matters/ |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by lacon on 09/12/12 at 02:09:19 TROX, I'm 99% sure they are not the same. If you order one, you will be asked to be specific on what you want it for. Is a Superbrace better? For the price difference I would hope so, but I didn't see it being worth the extra $65 for my purposes. Check out both & decide for yourself. I happen to prefer the TKAT design. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by TROX on 09/12/12 at 02:58:01 Thanks Oldfeller for the answer on the support question. Thanks you two for the responses on handling, I'm halfway between pegs on the ground and cruising and thanks lacon for the info on ordering. This forum is great. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by LANCER on 09/12/12 at 17:24:33 I cannot imagine that there would be a functional difference. It's just a matter of looks and $$. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by ralfyguy on 09/12/12 at 17:30:23 3B242225383F0E3E0E36242863510 wrote:
My pegs are like yours, but I don't have a fork brace. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/13/12 at 00:57:10 Ive seen several say they could tell no difference. I did see a difference. I wish we had a T-Kat that could be sent to the riders who have never tried them or dont seem to need one. I also wonder if there is any measurable difference between fork assemblies. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by lacon on 09/13/12 at 01:41:09 Another thought, Justin. When time comes to remove & re-install the front wheel, should I loosen the 4 top screws on the brace before torquing the axle nut, then re-tighten them? I'm thinking it would not be necessary, but then it would only take a few seconds if there was any doubt. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/13/12 at 10:30:54 Once the brace is on, the tubes otta not move, so, pulling the axle & putting it back really should be easier, since the sliders cant rotate & cause the axle threads to misalign. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by Serowbot on 09/13/12 at 10:54:47 I'm with Charon on this... I'd like to see a blind test... It ain't gonna' happen, but it would be neat... I've ridden with and without a fork brace (friends bike), and never noticed a difference... I noticed more difference in surface tracking, by going to a different front tire... On a bobber, without a front fender it might make a difference that I could perceive... I think the results most people are looking for, would come more from a steering stabilizer, than a fork brace... JMHO... :-?... |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by bill67 on 09/13/12 at 12:23:05 485751564B4C7D4D7D45575B10220 wrote:
JOG I thought you said you had the Super Brace on yours. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by ralfyguy on 09/13/12 at 14:33:43 7A6C7B667E6B667D090 wrote:
That's what I'm thinking. I would like to install one of those. Just don't know where and which one to get and how to mount it. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/13/12 at 17:27:26 010A0F0F5554630 wrote:
JOG I thought you said you had the Super Brace on yours.[/quote] I do.. I also have a Supertrapp,, I think I woulda been just as happy with a Dyna. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by JohnBoy on 09/14/12 at 11:07:17 Quote:
Wouldn't that be dangerous? But if it was a "Blind" test how would you "See" the difference? |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/14/12 at 11:35:17 A blind test! Those guys who do the Dragon can do this.\ Build a box to mount up there & cover the area so no one can see if its got one, ride the snot out of it.Park it behind cover, swap the box to another bike, same rider, same route,, do that with 3 riders & see whut the verdict is.. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by verslagen1 on 09/14/12 at 11:40:51 476265634F62740D0 wrote:
Couldn't ever be truely blind... the dog would know. :-? |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by built2last66 on 09/15/12 at 06:16:03 0A151314090E3F0F3F07151952600 wrote:
+1 |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by LANCER on 09/15/12 at 14:30:07 How it works. Fork tubes flex laterally and can twist around causing the front wheel to go out of alignment during compression of the tubes, with the result being "squirrelly steering"...not a desirable thing, especially when cornering at speed. :o http://www.superbrace.com/simulation.html |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by gerald.hughes on 09/15/12 at 14:57:37 This is one time when I have to disagree with Bot. I put a TKat on my bike and noticed the difference immediately. On the freeway, the turbulence behind trucks was greatly reduced. I also noticed a reduction in chattering over rough road surface. I would not ride without one. I realize that I weigh twice what Bot does, and that influences the way the bike handles, but for my money, I will take the fork brace, and the TKat is a good one. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by madmikesmech on 08/31/18 at 15:25:48 3A252324393E0F3F0F37252962500 wrote:
YEAH, ride it like ya stole it Justin!!! Same here, my legs are both scraped up pretty fairly too. Tkat does not make fork braces any longer, I contacted them, and he emailed me back stating he has not made one in years :( I'd like to find one, or I will be going to Ebay and getting a super race for near twice the cost, but are the super race THAT MUCH BETTER? |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fortk brace Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/18 at 20:55:45 I've had both. Performance is the same. After reading Twist of the Wrist II a few times I'm getting through the same corners with a more consistent and higher exit speed, using less lean angle, not dragging pegs, well , once in a while, but not even almost like before. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by stewmills on 08/31/18 at 21:25:51 Lucked up and got one of his last ones before he retired. He makes good stuff and I’m pleased with it. Snag one if you ever find it for sale anywhere. He sold them new for around $140. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by batman on 08/31/18 at 21:46:05 Go to 12.5" shocks ,they decrease steering angle, increase rear wheel travel from 2 to 3 1/2 " (have progressive springs-and better handling) and you'll never drag the pegs again.I'd rather put my money into buying better tires for better handling ,(The stock tires are junk) than a fork brace . If you're following a semi and it's blowing you around , why fight it?Drop back or pass it ,use your brain it's the little things that count. |
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Title: Re: New TKAT fork brace Post by LANCER on 09/01/18 at 04:43:46 I’ve got 12.5” shocks on the rear and my pegs will still drag on a good corner. All you gotta do is lean over a bit. [ch128526][ch127949] |
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