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Message started by Mr.Orange on 09/05/12 at 20:48:32

Title: now what?
Post by Mr.Orange on 09/05/12 at 20:48:32

any suggestions for a work around or bypass for the starter button? mine seems to have crapped out. daily rider so need quick fix, well, quickly.

Title: Re: now what?
Post by Serowbot on 09/05/12 at 21:57:57

Easiest thing is take it apart and clean/ rebuild it... anything else will be more involved and complicated...

Title: Re: now what?
Post by Mr.Orange on 09/05/12 at 22:00:12

it picks when it wants to work. so it could be something as easy as dirt or a wire loose? if i were only that lucky.

Title: Re: now what?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/05/12 at 22:01:01

Put 12 volts from the single & always hot red wire under the seat to the decomp controller. The tiniest switch you can find will handle the current. Cant remember which wire, wanna say it has yellow on it,
IF yoiu do that & leave it in gear & touch the switch, its gonna roll off the s=tand, even if yoiu have the key in your pocket,

Title: Re: now what?
Post by verslagen1 on 09/05/12 at 22:03:13

There's a connector of the right side under the tank.
but you may be able to reach it.
pop it off and reconnect it.

next check your safeties, clutch kickstand neutral.
clutch and kickstand can be easily bypassed, and many times they are the source of the trouble.

Title: Re: now what?
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/06/12 at 14:27:38

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Title: Re: now what?
Post by SaVaGeEaRL on 09/06/12 at 17:10:34

Same symptoms I have with my bad decompression solenoid controller. Next time it won't start, put it in a high gear and roll it forward a bit, if it was on the compression stroke and you've rolled it forward, it's now not on the compression stroke. See if it starts. If so, you have a bad controller as I do. I will replace mine one of these days (its 70 freakin bucks). For now I have a wire running from the positive battery terminal, to a starter button then to the starter. If I need to use it it's there.

Title: Re: now what?
Post by Spamy on 09/06/12 at 18:04:33

I agree with Serowbot, take apart the controls and clean the contact. They are copper and even though they are coated with dielectric grease from the factory they tend to corrode pretty easy.

My bike has been in mild climate its whole life and still they were corroded to where the bike didnt always want to start when the button was pushed.

The horn displayed similar problems as well from time to time.

Title: Re: now what?
Post by heroicseven on 09/06/12 at 18:23:16

I had a starter button issue, where everything was on and ready to go, buy when I pulled the clutch in all the way it wouldnt start.
Learnt by accident that if i just let the clutch out a wee bit it would fire eight up. Hope this helps!

Title: Re: now what?
Post by rfw2003 on 09/06/12 at 18:40:04

The one sure fire way to figure out if it's the decomp controller is to bypass that for a temp solution. Unplug it and then put a jumper between the yellow/green wire and the yellow/black wire. This will allow you to do the start circuit without the decomp solenoid and connects the start button direct to the starter relay.

Title: Re: now what?
Post by Mr.Orange on 09/07/12 at 15:30:10

took it all apart and cleaned everything. even stretched the spring a little for good measure. put it back together and she fired up several times no problem. this morning same thing, started right up. get off work today and she's back to misbehaving. a few minutes later finally got it going. so now what?

Title: Re: now what?
Post by rfw2003 on 09/07/12 at 16:00:56

536C30516C7F70797B1E0 wrote:

Did you bypass the decomp controller like I suggested to verify it's not that causing your issue?