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Title: front forks Post by beauskie on 08/28/12 at 17:57:10 has any one dun a springer front end? if so what were ya results on it, and how much money did it take to convert? |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by verslagen1 on 08/28/12 at 20:28:37 lot's o'talk, no action 'cept one... http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1213856449 |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by beauskie on 08/28/12 at 20:46:53 darn no pic lots of talk and tech jive but nothin i can see with the peeps. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by Charon on 08/28/12 at 20:51:40 I suppose it is silly to ask why you would want to do it. Certainly it can't be for better performance and handling, or sportbikes would have them. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by beauskie on 08/28/12 at 21:09:09 well since im not worried about handling so much. i was trying to look at in the looks department i was also woundering how they are on maintenance since my fronts are leaking and to repair them cost quit a bit and i do not have the tools of the trade for that particular undertaking. so i find that its cheaper to buy semi used ones or go for other model bikes but i was woundering about the springer? like i said nice to the eye but i wanted the maintenance part of it as well. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/28/12 at 22:18:07 The "special tools" are easy to make. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by verslagen1 on 08/28/12 at 22:20:51 3A3D392D2B33313D580 wrote:
Hmmmm.... $50 vs $500... yeah much cheaper to go springer. :-? |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by beauskie on 08/29/12 at 05:09:47 50$ of what vs 500$ of what? and if your sayin average cost of springer is 500 that would be fine if you can get four times the use out of it compared to the stock, since the cheapest i can get it dun for is 217$ not including new seals. and i have seen used ones up for 150$ but then i am taking a chance, again i ask how is the maintenance on the springer since i do like the look of it would it be cost effective? and yes easy to make tools for those who can and have the means to make said tools understandable. not every one has minni shops and know how. and im a guy who has to pry the knowledge from the living hands of those who guard there secrets like golem from lord of the rings. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/29/12 at 05:18:48 Im a total loss at dragging up old threads, but there are pics of the tools people have made. Someone, please, help this guy.,. You could TRy the repair job, if its a bust, then do something else, I guess. Ive never been in the forks myself, & dont want to, but Im sure I could get thru it., FWIW, we had a little gal in Hawaii who did hers, |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by beauskie on 08/29/12 at 05:35:25 thanks for tryin to belittle me and giving me an answer to a question i was not lookin for. but if we could stay on the topic witch is about the springer that would be cool. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by mojohand40 on 08/29/12 at 06:01:38 http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1342396310/6#6 not hard to replace fork seals. I'm no pro mechanic and managed it. Fork seals (20 bucks). Only "tools" needed, a piece of PVC (5 bucks) and a couple of bolts and nuts (10 bucks), some fork oil (15 bucks ?) and a few hours of time. (total: about 50 bucks) Give it a shot. as for a springer...hard to get one for 500 bucks (maybe used?) AND then..probably need a new front caliper to mount to it, maybe new wheel and rotor, then some bearings and then you got to mod the steering stem etc.. bottom line: even if you could do it all yourself with used parts, I'm betting about a 1000 dollars when all is said and done. To pay a shop to do it? IF you can find one who will, maybe labor of 500-700 bucks on top of parts (I'm just guessing). A chopper kit would be cheaper. see: http://www.chopper-kit-usa.com/suzuki-LS650-Savage.htm |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by Dave on 08/29/12 at 09:20:35 And guess what.......You have to take your front forks apart to install the chopper kit. You will be making the same tools to take the forks apart and install seals that you would to replace the seals in the stock forks. Replacing seals is a good learning experience.....and one of the first tasks that any bike owner should go through on the way to more advanced repairs. You could even save a few more dollars by using ATF fluid instead of fork oil.....it works well in forks. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by beauskie on 08/29/12 at 14:06:06 once again that is all great and fun. but the heart of the question that i am asking is about the springer. not tryin to knock your words or anything i understand that i need to fix my front end yes but at the moment befor i do anything to it i wanted to weigh my options with some informed input about the springer front end. if no one knows about it thats cool ill try to get some input some were else but i wanted to exhaust my closest resource before i went to some one or something less proven. this site has given me alot and yes i have already looked up the way to repair the front forks on this site befor i even posted this OG comment. so again i thank you for your words but pleas stay on topic. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/29/12 at 15:33:53 Personally, I find a springer to be a very attractive front end. Id like to have one, on something,,but I dont know of anyone who builds one for this. IDK what you wanna spend, or what they cost, or where to even go looking.. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by teabowl13 on 08/30/12 at 09:24:50 7176726660787A76130 wrote:
I think what these guys are al saying is that there isn't really anyone who makes a springer front end that will work easily for the Savage. If you have the skills, time, and money of course you can make anything work, but fixing your fork seals; even paying a shop to do it will be VASTLY easier than doing a complete front end conversion. However... If you want to look into it further, here's where I might start: The guys at VOODOO vintage had a girder front end listed on their website a while back; I'm pretty sure it's custom made by them, and can be made to fit the Savage to your specs. I'm also pretty sure it was over $1,000. I don't see it there now, but here's their site. You could dig deeper, or maybe contact them if you are interested. http://www.voodoovintage.com/products.html There are also LOTS of places online outside of this forum to find helpful info. I would do a general Google search for "Girder front end conversion" or "Springer front end conversion" and also look for chopper/bobber websites and forums that might have info. ChopCult.com has a lot of cool bikes and projects posted there, as well as a lot of how-to threads. search through theior forums and you're bound to find someone whose done something similar. It'll be useful info, even if it was done on a different model of bike. http://www.chopcult.com/default.php HAVE FUN!! ;D |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by srinath on 08/30/12 at 09:30:14 The savage is nearly the easiest bike I have seen to graft any FE you want ... I'll try a girder, specifically a durfee type girder FE. Google it. Yes Yonuh Adisi did it, however I suspect the girder will be far too heavy. I slapped on a twin disk yamaha FE on this savage I got now and have done dirt bike FE's before on a 9 degree raked triple. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by beauskie on 08/30/12 at 11:20:17 thanks for the info |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by 87 savage on 08/30/12 at 17:33:31 585F5B4F4951535F3A0 wrote:
Justin, how dare you belittle this guy by trying to help him?? You should be ashamed of yourself for not telling him exactly what he wants to hear!! ::) By the way beauskie, it's spelled WHICH not witch |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/12 at 18:55:58 JoG < unintentional belittler, Jasshonkey at large,, my bad.. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by Cavi Mike on 08/30/12 at 22:44:26 7D7A7E6A6C74767A1F0 wrote:
So what you're saying is you don't have the skills to replace a couple rubber seals but you somehow have the skills to install a completely different front end? Interesting. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by beauskie on 08/31/12 at 12:33:49 its not that i have the skills to do this or that i wanted to know about that springer front end and if any of the members had exp with it and yes my spelling and grammer is bad what can i say you did understand the words so whats that say about you lol. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by srinath on 08/31/12 at 12:46:33 082A3D220622202E4B0 wrote:
So what you're saying is you don't have the skills to replace a couple rubber seals but you somehow have the skills to install a completely different front end? Interesting.[/quote] I squarely fall into this category ... though I have 5-6 fork seal jobs under my belt, I hate doing those ... so much so I am getting worse @ doing it. I have several FE swaps including 2 on a savage - and these are not any ordinary FE swaps. stuff thhat is a huge deviation ... and motor swaps and ail swaps and tank swaps ...' Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by 87 savage on 08/31/12 at 13:52:48 4146425650484A46230 wrote:
It says that I have way too much respect for a guy with 16000+ posts to be running my mouth at him. Especially when he is trying to help! There is an incredible amount of experience and knowledge among the members of this forum. Listen to what they are saying instead of going all gangsta. :-X Swapping out your FE to avoid changing seals is pretty drastic. I mean if you really really like the springer and are willing to spend that kind of dough...well, that's cool. P.S. it's grammar, not grammer ;) |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by teabowl13 on 08/31/12 at 18:09:34 5F5E45424D58442C0 wrote:
Cool! I'd love to see some pics/ and write-ups of these projects if you have them, or if you've posted them in the past, maybe links to those threads. I'd love to see what you've done, and it might help this guy out a bit too... COOL!! ;) |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by verslagen1 on 09/07/12 at 22:12:00 72617677686563616A35040 wrote:
pictures updated |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by beauskie on 09/08/12 at 00:59:06 hey not bad lookin so far would like to see the whole thing but not bad lookin. home skillet put a lot o work into it for sure. thanks for the update post. i like my tank and speedo though so stayin OG for that lol. but i think that springer mite be what im lookin for just be a minute befor i am able to get er dun lol. got to keep her functional then work on the looks when the cash comes in. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by verslagen1 on 09/08/12 at 08:59:30 here's a side view http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/79/d81140c5ad3a46e2a2e7a66f8920647d/l.jpg |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by beauskie on 09/08/12 at 14:04:02 oh wow that is nice. slims it up real good. good job on the skoot. do update on how she rides when ya have the chance. |
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Title: Re: front forks Post by verslagen1 on 09/08/12 at 15:42:39 6D6A6E7A7C64666A0F0 wrote:
That was Yonuh's bike, he sold it to someone in Washington. |
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