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Title: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Wolfman on 08/25/12 at 14:46:14 Just curious if anyone is riding or has rode a VT1100. Been thinking of adding or moveing up to a larger more highway and 2up friendly bike. The spirit is one thats caught my eye. Want to stay small enough to be errand/town/twisties friendly. But big enough for comfortable 2up(day and weekend trips) and highway riding? Thought about an S50 or Kawa 900 but i think an 1100 would suit me better. Thoughts? |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by arteacher on 08/25/12 at 15:58:32 What about an M90? Or a Yamaha 950? |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Midnightrider on 08/25/12 at 18:14:49 I had a 96 model Ace 1100. Good motorcycle, I had a windshield and bags on it and it did great on long trips and was my daily driver back and forth to work. No mechanical problems ever. |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Wolfman on 08/26/12 at 01:30:46 M90's to big and NO Yammies! Had a yamaha and had nothing but problems from it. No chain drive either. Got to be a belt of shaft. I hate chain drives. Kinda prefer sport type fenders to. The classic look just don't trip my trigger. Something on the order of 1000-1100ccs. Most of my riding would still be local and one up. Just want something thats more highway and 2 up friendly. Idealy i get to keep the savage but thats probably not going to happen. No fricking harleys either! I got to be able to afford to work on em without paying for the name. They just don't inspire me anyway. Sport tourers would work just for me but the girls would be carping at the end of the day. Im partial to cruisers anyway. |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by LANCER on 08/26/12 at 04:16:08 I was looking at the Honda VT's last year and came close to buying one. I did not take one for a test ride but they did sit very well for my body size and felt like it would be good for "time in the saddle" |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Paraquat on 08/26/12 at 07:58:44 I upgraded to a c50 two weeks ago. I'm loving it. My girlfriend loves it too. She never wanted to ride on that 6x4" rectangle Suzuki called a seat. She loves the c50 and wants to take it out more and more. It's nice she's getting into cycling. She now wants to buy a helmet so we can leave the state and go places on it. I had never heard of the S50 until last week. It's a shame because sometimes I miss how light and nimble the Savage is compared to the c50. The S50 looks like it held onto a lot of the Savage's design. In terms of power though the c50 hasn't disappointed me yet. (Give it a couple years and I'll get used to it and think it's underpowered) http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv231/Paraquat_bucket/desandbike.jpg She loves it so much she helped me polish the chrome and then took over waxing the whole thing. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Johansson on 08/26/12 at 10:24:41 http://https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/559515_400232940021102_1321042914_n.jpg I am fairly happy with mine. I am used to older machines that had more hp. I figured an 1100 would be 60 or 70 hp. The vt 1100 's made after 96 have just slightly over 50 hp. The bike is over geared. 5th gear is happy at over 70 mph only. It will cruise all day at 80 to 85 mph. Keeping up with the truckers in the mountain of Oklahoma and Arkansas, often at speeds of 90 mph, is beyond the capability of this bike. It starts to get squirrelly at 90. The stock tires are really bad. I upgraded to Metzler 880's which made a new bike out of it, an extraordinary change in handling. I reallly disliked the bike until the Metzlers were on it. This bike has a very comfortable saddle, I go to Iowa from Dallas tx several times a year, 15 hours trips and am very happy with the stock seat. The location of the speedometer prevents the memphis fats 19" from tilting back enough. I think the CWI windshield or the demon windshield would stop buffeting, which comes from below, I put my sisters demon on it, much better but her windshield was way to short. I had the Memphis, so that is what I used. The lowers helped some, If you look close, I made some deflectors in front of my footpegs, that solved all buffeting. Oh, by the way, the buffeting was extremely severe with just the stock memphis shade, so bad the bike was unrideable at speed with any headwind. It would literally pull my helmets, half, 3/4 or fullface to the back of my head, choking me. The location of the pegs is a little to far forward for long distance travel , also, the highways are buckling in OK, some bumps are pretty bad and it is hard to raise up on these pegs. I am also dissapointed with the mileage, about 40 mpg at 70 to 80 mph low winds, 35 mpg when windy. So, I am not really happy with the low power, My old 82 shovelhead stock with a factory listed 55 hp gets 50 mpg in the same scenarios, is more comfortable and handles better,,fxr Now, I just sold a Ducati 748, and I have an 82 virago with 70 hp,, so the vt1100c shadow spirit does not compare with the virago or my harley favorably,, But, the maintenance is zero, 8000 mile factory reccomended oil change interval, air filters are lasting about 7000 miles, runs on ethanol 87 octane just fine, or straight gas, no valve adjustments ever, starts right up even after sitting a month or so...... chuck http://https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/535252_400232886687774_1041488632_n.jpg I am on the left, 6'1" and 220 lbs, I can see over the 19" memphis fats, but I stronly recommend against this windshield for the shadow spirit.http://https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/534460_398425163535213_992078702_n.jpg |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Wolfman on 08/26/12 at 12:51:52 Ive considered the C50. Just hate them big fenders. Some folks complain about it being slightly under powered for 2 up and slightly cramped with a passanger. Same for the S50 though i dont hear near as many complaints about power. Most ive talked to(or read) seem to love the VT1100. Good around town and fun in the twisties. Comfortable 2 up and pleanty of power for the highway. Top speed isnt as important to me(supposedly about 120) as roll on power to pass at 70 or so. The extra 200lbs or so is a concern but displacements gonna add weight. I dont ride with a shield though i have considered one for the winter months. I ride anytime its above 35. Id considered a bandit 1250 and could live with that. The youngest would eat that up. But the old lady would be carping 50 miles down the road most likely...lol I can get a lil heavy handed so probably wouldn't be a good idea. 40 mpg i can live with. Saveing on gas is good but i ride mostly for the ride. So if i can keep it 40 or above ill be happy. I got a few road trips i want to make before im to old and crippled up. Love my lil savage but the youngest is getting to big to ride 2 up and im getting a real itch for 2 up exploreing. |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Paraquat on 08/26/12 at 13:56:20 I don't mean to keep pitching the c50 but I do want to add that my gf has too much room. She complained the first week she felt like she was going to fall off because she was sliding around so much. I got her some Cobra running boards and she's happier with those. She wants me to get a back rest so she has something to hold on to. I know what you mean about the fenders though. If you look at it the right (or wrong) way it looks like an 8" wide fender on a bicycle tire. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Skid Mark on 08/26/12 at 18:37:18 I upgraded to the c50 and loved it too. The wife started to ride with me and the 50 worked fine but it was getting very busy at 70 mph with very little more for passing. Most of my 2 up riding is on 4 lane 70 mph hiways so i upped the anti to a c90. Considering its weight and size it is still pretty maneuverable. Suzuki put the gas tank and battery real low to keep the c of g lower and it works. Sometimes you have to forgo some maneuverability to gain the room and power for comfortable 2 up riding. The wife is very glad we got the C90. She's a lot more comfy now. Happy wife; happy life. :D |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by kimchris1 on 08/26/12 at 19:40:52 Hubby has the Honda Shadow Aero 750.. It is a 2007 and he has had no mechanical or other problems with it. Averages 50 mph and seems to be comfortable for him. I can't say for myself as not allowed to ride it.. That is ok as if I really wanted to ride one, I would own one.. :) kim |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Wolfman on 08/27/12 at 01:34:46 Oh im considering the C50. Just got to get by them fenders. Live on a gravel road and wonder if id beat em all to he!!. Worry about it being a bit under powered 2 up. But would be the same for an S50 i reckon. I REALLY like the S50's looks. Lot of 750s around but if im going to move up im moveing up a couple hundered ccs anyway. Dont think 100 would get me what i want and frame length is about the same as the S40. Missed out of a couple of real good deals on a couple of late model(98 and 2000) 1100's. Theres one that really sings to me but he's wanting about a grand above book for it. And more then im willing to give. Love to have one now but ill probably wait till winter. Then ill have to get rid of Jolene much as i hate to. |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Skid Mark on 08/27/12 at 12:58:44 Something to consider on the C50 is putting the C90 rear end gearing on it. The guys that have done it say it helps a lot on the hiway. It reduces the revs so it has more top rnd and doesn't rev as high when cruising. There's a Good c50 forum. Voulsiariders.com that will give you a good idea if it's the one for you. |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by 12Bravo on 08/27/12 at 13:54:38 Step son has a Suzuki Intruder (S50) and it does quite well. I traded my Burgman scooter in for a V Star 1100 and really enjoy the bike. |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by John_D FSO on 08/27/12 at 17:31:04 6761786B673C330A0 wrote:
I picked up a C50 several years ago too, and like it pretty well. I am however considering the gear swap, because past 75 or so it does sound like it's revving a lot, not to mention the mileage drops fast at the high speeds. :P As far as power, for its weight as opposed to engine size, I'd say it does pretty good. I've ridden Yamaha's and Harleys with bigger engines, that while they had more torque, they didn't feel as quick off the line. I've used it for 2-up with a passenger of around 150 lbs, and I'm topping 200, and it doesn't seem to struggle any. Won't win any drag races, but gets me around just fine. http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt347/redneck72102/Bike%20Pics/2011%20Ride%20Pics/th_100_0155.jpg (http://s626.photobucket.com/albums/tt347/redneck72102/Bike%20Pics/2011%20Ride%20Pics/?action=view¤t=100_0155.jpg) |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Wolfman on 08/29/12 at 01:11:56 The real sucky part about looking right now is most folks are asking a grand over book for their rides. Buyers market but most don't seem to get that. At least on craigslist. Bikes that book 2145 in excellent condition in KBB are priced anywhere from 3000-3500. :o |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Paraquat on 08/29/12 at 06:11:14 Seriously. Same thing with people trying to sell old cars. I can't find an 89-93 240SX shell, SHELL, for less than 1500. I bought a 90 complete turn key Eclipse GSX for 500 bucks 5 years ago. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Savage_Rob on 08/29/12 at 06:33:41 If I were to buy another bike anytime soon (which is extremely unlikely), I think I would seriously consider the Honda NC700X (http://powersports.honda.com/2012/nc700x.aspx). Another similar bike that would be in the running would be Suzuki's V-Strom 650 ABS Adventure (http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/V-Strom%20650/2012/DL650AADV.aspx). I know, neither is a cruiser form factor and I'd miss that but for the types of riding I do, both are very well equipped. |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by srinath on 08/29/12 at 07:38:29 I've never sold a bike for "book" value. I'd advertise a bike say a GS500 (of which I have owned 17 and sold 14) for say $1500. People would call and go on and on and on about book value ... I'd say bring me the book and I'll sell you for book value. When they did that, I would read it, and I'd go ... see it says 5K per year ... OK so in 12 years that is 60K miles ... so if it has 60K miles it should be 700 bucks ... OK great ... I got this bike only 48K miles and I'll gladly take 650 for it. Should be a steal innit it. Oh no you want that one with 10K on it ... sorry that will be $1500. I sold 7 GS500's that way before I was left with the 48K mile bike, which too I sold ... Book value = Book mileage = in some cases 1 foot in the grave and the other on banana peels. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by WD on 08/29/12 at 19:04:08 If I was to go out today and step up to a larger displacement used bike, there would be but 2 choices, VN800A or a VN1500 (any flavor). The 800 is a great all day bike, gets in the high 40s to low 50s mpg, can clear the ton by quite a few hash marks... but it is chain driven. The 1500's (newer ones) are fuel injected, liquid cooled, shaft driven, hydraulically clutched (with adjustable reach levers), have decent exhausts available, are comfortable (with the exception of the old 1500A) and get high 40s to low 50s mpg if you stay out of the throttle. And they don't rattle themselves apart. As for Suzuki 50 series cruisers, the S50 is the origin of the breed, the others are all detuned variants of the original VS700 engine design of the 1980s. The S even still looks like an early cartoon caricature 80's tariff Shadow/Vulcan/Intruder. Lisa's 96 800 Intruder is done, used up, ready for the scrap heap with sub-20K miles on it. |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Wolfman on 08/30/12 at 02:08:53 1500'sa lil bigger then i wanna go. Want to stay small enough to still play in the twisties and run errands without feeling like im wrestling a greased hog. 800's a lil smaller then i want to run 2 up comfortably. 900 to 1100 is about the range im looking in. Several nice shadow 1100's localy but their priecy. D@mn near buy a new one for what some of them want for a 2000 or 2002. One guys got a bone stock 88 with a shield that wants 3000. ::) V-Star would work but i got a real bug about yammies and i hate chain drives. Seems like almost all the C50's are 2007 or newer, tricked out and priced that way. And themfenders just make me cringe. Old ladies like 'You got a bike already and don't need another' and im like 'ill get a bigger one when i decide to get one'. I think i had a more comfortable 2 up she would enjoy riding more. The kid just wants to RIDE! Sport, tourer, cruiser, she don't care...lol May have to get rid of the savage before i do anything. Bad thing is besides haveing to get rid of it is its MY transportation. And its FUN s he!! I just HATE driveing the truck anymore. Bigger bike would slow me down a bit to. Good thing i didn't get a 600 sport. ::) If i could only win the lottery...lol |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by 12Bravo on 08/30/12 at 06:08:07 The V Star 650 and 1100 is shaft drive and the V Star 950 is belt drive. I have arthritis and fibromyalgia and was worried about handling the 1100 but it isn't much different than the Burgman. I am very happy with my V Star. Wolfman, the V stars are a lot better than the old Yamaha Virago models. If I wasn't on the other side of the state from you, I'd let you check out my V Star. The Kawasaki Vulcan 900 is a nice bike also. |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Wolfman on 08/30/12 at 14:25:52 Yeah the Star 1100 is in the running. I just got to get over really hateing yammies. Had one a loonnnggg time ago and it was nothing but trouble. From what iv read i wont even consider a virago. Distance? Road trip...lol Course if i liked your ride you might not get it back. ;D Hadn't really thought about the 950. Ive grown to love a belt drive. Sounds like isac is going to pay you a GOOD visit 12B. Maybe 10 inchs. Looks like we're in the 2-4 inch range right now. |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by 12Bravo on 08/30/12 at 15:45:09 We could use the rain. Forecast calling for rain on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. The rain will be too late to help the crops though. |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Wolfman on 08/31/12 at 01:37:32 Ill be happy if it brings the grass back to life before winter. My pastures shot and going to have to spend money i could use on a bike for hay. For the girls d@mn horses! Cattle i wouldn't mind. At least i got money out of them. Sore tonight. Old lady forgot the milk at moms and i had to go back. First trip home bambi came running up to the fence and came to a screaming stop by the neighbors pond fence. She had jumped the fence she would of literaly been right on top of me. I thought 'thats my close call for the day'. When i went back for the milk i started to turn right turning around in the barn lot comeing back out. Don't know what i hit if anything but the front tire went out from under me like it was on marbles. Cracked my head pretty good, banged up my right shoulder and upper ribs. Got something pinched up between my shoulder blades now to. Had my leg pinned under the bike under the saddlebags and couldn't get the d@mn thing out. Gas running out of the tank at that. Finaly got pizzed after my head quit ringing and 'HULKED' it up and got my leg out. Man was i pizzed! Don't think i hurt anything besides myself and knocking the rearview out of whack. Have to check again in the morning. Thought i was going to have to call the old lady to come get it off me. Off the gravel, ground was solid and grass wasn't wet. All i can figure is maybe the loose cr@p piled up from the rain the other day. Halfway through a right hand slow speed turn and BAM, i was down and seeing stars and tweety birds. Had to lay there for about 5 seconds for my head to clear to try and get up. What a Beotch! Still want to let me test drive that V-Star?...lol Think maybe ill start looking at spyders n trikes... :D |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by gerald.hughes on 08/31/12 at 01:59:20 I think that most of us have been down in one of those slow speed turns where, for some reason, the front wheel went out. In my case it was a piece of unseen pipe on the pavement that rolled the wheel out. One of the big reasons that I am such a fan of the Savage is the size and weight. You can get it off of you when you go down. A lot of the bikes that I have owned it would be too much. Hell, right now, with my artificial hip, a C50 would be enough additional weight to pin me. It is something to think about when looking at bikes. |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by Wolfman on 08/31/12 at 03:12:58 Yeah but its irritateing as he!! though. And it HURT!...lol The more i think about it i think it may of been the debris from the lil bit of rain we got the other day piled up in the edge of the grass. Have to look in the morning. Was peruseing craigslist and found the EXACT twin to a bike i was considering. The one in camdenton was 2900. This one is 3299. http://columbiamo.craigslist.org/mcd/3239088125.html I mean their identical down to the bags, lightbar, crashbar, hwy pegs, grips and passanger pegs. Gas tank paint scheme as well. Got me wondering if its a scam or some jackleg is trying to make a few bucks. Other one went off two days ago and this one suddenly shows up 70 miles north of it...lol |
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Title: Re: Honda Shadow VT1100 Post by bill67 on 08/31/12 at 05:15:21 I had a 1989 shadow vt1100,One of the only bikes I really didn't care for,It did nothing really wrong but nothing I like about riding it. |
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