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Message started by renegade1 on 08/23/12 at 09:23:45

Title: how can i take this off?
Post by renegade1 on 08/23/12 at 09:23:45

this darn thing just wont loosen, mind you i dont have a proper tool anyone have a part number so i can get one?

Title: Re: how can i take this off?
Post by Paraquat on 08/23/12 at 09:32:04

Digger took a large fender washer and ground it down until it would fit in.
Some members use a Harbor Freight pry bar.
Clymer's says to use a Honda tool and lists their part number.
I had a piece of 1/8 flat stock I put a hole in so I could pry off of it.

--Steve

Title: Re: how can i take this off?
Post by DangRider on 08/23/12 at 09:44:04

I was able to get it off by pressing the chisel end of a pry bar into the groove and clamping onto the bar with vise grips to turn the bar. I got behind the bar and leaned into it with my body weight to keep good purchase on the groove.

I also purchased a replacement cap that has a 10 mm allen socket so I don't have to fight that battle again.

Part number: 09259-36008 (at powersportsplus.com)

Title: Re: how can i take this off?
Post by verslagen1 on 08/23/12 at 09:47:52

many ways...

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Title: Re: how can i take this off?
Post by wambr on 08/24/12 at 00:31:34

a long time I was tormented with the darn thing. in the end I had to drain the oil from the engine and remove the right crankase cover . then a good shed the threaded part of kerosene. only after such procedures managed to remove the darn cap...

Title: Re: how can i take this off?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/24/12 at 06:25:35

Thats what happens when people who do not understand mechanical things touch them. No need to crank that thing in like its a head bolt. Feel the threads stop, & give a light twist. It has an O-ring, its not gonna leak,
Antisieze is your friend.

Title: Re: how can i take this off?
Post by running-it-stock on 08/24/12 at 08:44:51

73646F646660656430010 wrote:

this darn thing just wont loosen, mind you i dont have a proper tool anyone have a part number so i can get one?

I am having the same problem. The specified tool is BikeMaster Timing Cover Plug Wrench 04-073 http://www.powersportsuperstore.com/BikeMaster-Timing-Cover-Plug-Wrench-04-073-p/4716705.htm which is equivalent to MotionPro's tool (08-0087). The key to opening it is use something the exact (3/16") width as the slot before you strip it, and the tool won't provide you that. Verslays idea of using the brake pads is the best fit I found.

You can also let the engine run, then put ice on the plug to contract it ;). Haven't tried it yet.
Also if you are looking for TDC take the spark plug out and use the electric starter or roll the bike to move piston.

Title: Re: how can i take this off?
Post by wambr on 08/24/12 at 09:10:56

6567627E6B7C0E0 wrote:

Also if you are looking for TDC take the spark plug out and use the electric starter or roll the bike to move piston.

the first time I did.
trying to "catch" TDC in the compression stroke, turning the engine from the starter and watching the valves.

Title: Re: how can i take this off?
Post by SaVaGeEaRL on 08/24/12 at 11:03:58

the back of an old savage brake pad and a pair of vise grips to hold/twist works well

Title: Re: how can i take this off?
Post by RC on 08/24/12 at 21:27:16

The one dollar option is the old style U.S. dollar the ones the size of the old silver dollars of my youth. Don't use a real silver one its worth more than the tools you can buy, but if you have one of the later sandwich dollars from the 70s it will work great.

Title: Re: how can i take this off?
Post by wambr on 08/24/12 at 23:47:01

3923242126273138540 wrote:

the back of an old savage brake pad and a pair of vise grips to hold/twist works well

I tried to use them, but I did not remove the darn thing... >:( :(

Title: Re: how can i take this off?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/24/12 at 23:55:21

Pressure, or, straight torque, has less effect than impact. Build a tool with an arm on it, so someone can seat it in the slot & you can spank on it. Time spent making the tool fit the groove is time well spent,
Read everything you can on making it let go. A light "spanking" is a good idea. A pin punch & a Very Light hammer applied with NOthing More than a quick wrist that Does Not follow thru, to drive the metal back & rebuilding the edge of the groove is a good plan,

Title: Re: how can i take this off?
Post by wambr on 08/25/12 at 22:36:30

thanks, JOG 2! now I already from the twisted this cap. this is not a problem for me now. just in the future I will not pull her so tight

Title: Re: how can i take this off?
Post by Cavie on 08/26/12 at 05:51:24

http://www.toolsource.com/inch-square-drive-hand-impact-tool-p-67905.html?gclid=CPrdjZ6qhbICFQQGnQodWiMAig&sourceid=googleps

Title: Re: how can i take this off?
Post by HondaLavis on 08/26/12 at 08:45:26

I have a HF chisel set, and the large chisel fits in the slot perfectly. The body of the chisel is 6 sided and a 12mm wrench ( or somewhere around there) fits perfectly. Take it off gently and you don't need to gorilla torque the thing when you put it back on. ;)