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Title: Required Battery Output? Post by RanDaMan on 07/26/12 at 09:18:37 There is probably a thread where this question is tackled and answered but i didnt want to dig through 599 pages of threads in the RSD. So im looking into buying a new smaller more powerfull battery! to save on space and on weight. I have been looking at a couple different types of batteries like lithium, agm, lead/acid. I find my self so lost when looking at all the different types and sizes. What number of volts and cranking amps and cold cranking amps do i need? can i use any battery that meets these requirements? im looking for a small maintenence free battery. any recommendations? |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by Serowbot on 07/26/12 at 10:13:18 There will be charging problems with a lithium,... someone smart will explain why,... but for now, it ain't good.. With batteries, size matters.... how small you can go, will depend on how easy and often you start yer' bike... Best bet is to by a black battery,.. 'cause black is always slimming... It will appear smaller... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by ZAR on 07/26/12 at 10:22:56 5E485F425A4F42592D0 wrote:
Sero you just ain't right Bro !!!!!!! ;D |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by Serowbot on 07/26/12 at 10:36:15 415A491B0 wrote:
Black isn't slimming?... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by ZAR on 07/26/12 at 10:41:43 293F28352D38352E5A0 wrote:
Black isn't slimming?... :-?...[/quote] See! That's what I'm talking about! ;D ROTFL I thought "sheer" was more slim.....no wait :-/...I got that wrong :o :-[....You're right Sero! |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by kuri77 on 07/26/12 at 10:44:37 You could buy a Shorai new style which is very small and light but also expensive. Not ready to jump into that new tech yet so I got an Odyssey PC310 which is also small, not so light, and also expensive. But have had Odyssey batteries in all of my bikes for years and they always last at least 4 or 5 years and never have let me down on the road. |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by RanDaMan on 07/26/12 at 10:54:12 726C6B702E2E190 wrote:
Thats the kind of info i was looking for! even though serow's is funny its not something i can take to the store and ask for haha! i just dont know why if the description on a battery claims it crank over a 1200 vtwin high compression motor why couldnt i use that battery to crank over a single lung 650? |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by RanDaMan on 07/26/12 at 10:56:58 697F68756D78756E1A0 wrote:
Like what sort of problems though? you mean like in circuit with the bike running it wont accept a charge or and outside charging issue? :-? |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by Serowbot on 07/26/12 at 11:07:44 Still waiting for somebody smart... They posted an explanation a while back... and I believed it... Something about charging... I'm into lightening the bike too,... but those are 6 very expensive pounds... I got lighter fender, muffler,.. ditched beltguard, head covers, rear seat, etc... even Shinko tires that are lighter that other brands.. .. but 80 to 100 bucks for 6 lbs?... too pricey fer me... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by RanDaMan on 07/26/12 at 11:19:50 If it was 80 - 100 bucks for some of thes batteries ive been looking at i would of bought the first one that said its capable of starting a bigger engine then mine! all the ones ive been are minimum 175 - 200 one of them was 500! :o i guess my main concern is buying a battery that has too much power and will short out or melt a wire ( if thats possible :-/ ) or a battery that requires a strict amount of current to charge it or it will die. its just hard to figure out if i need a 4, 8, 12, 24 cell battery or soemthing completly different. if someone can just tell me that i wont fry my whole electrical system by using the wrong battery then that would be awesome! or if people can recommend a small battery that they have used succesfully i dont care if it wieghs more then darn stock battery i just want it to be smaller! |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by ZAR on 07/26/12 at 11:30:24 Ran I'm sorry to have hijacked your thread! I just couldn't resist acting up after Sero's post! By the way .....great info guys! |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by RanDaMan on 07/26/12 at 11:34:46 no worries at all ZAR i just hope someone can answer this question for me. im hoping RpNSht will join this thread and help out a little because it was one of his threads that got me wanting a smaller battery! i tried PM'ing him but i dont know if my messaging works or not it says ive never sent a message before. |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by lch2 on 07/26/12 at 11:51:12 According to what I have read, ballistic batteries are lithium batteries that do not require any modification to our charging system http://www.ballisticparts.com/products/batteries/batteries.php |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by RanDaMan on 07/26/12 at 11:58:58 6F606B31030 wrote:
:D THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!! THANKS ICH2! :) |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by verslagen1 on 07/26/12 at 12:06:04 something done before.... http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1259644714 BigCrank is a battery I can recommend. They sell various sizes You'll have to pick a size for your use. You plan on using accessories? Don't do it. You don't go very far between stops? Don't do it. Can't push start? Don't do it. For a standard commuter with a minimum 30 minute ride at superslab speeds, you can down size your battery as it's going to be charged with every use. If you are going to be a delivery boy with dozens of stops and 5 miles inbetween each stop, no way are you going to keep it charged and you might not last the day. Our #15 battery has • 12 Volt, 14 Ah, 220 CCA • 5.25"L X 3.50"W X 6.56"H Next size down is a #12 • 12 Volt, 10 Ah, 180 CCA • 5.88"L X 3.44"W X 5.13"H Still smaller is a #9 • 12 Volt, 8 Ah, 120 CCA • 5.88"L X 3.44"W X 4.19"H then even smaller are the LiFePo batteries (don't go less the 8 cells) BM Part #: LFX12A1-BS12 Capacity: 12 Ah / 155 CCA Length: 5.83" Width: 2.60" Height: 4.13" |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by RanDaMan on 07/26/12 at 12:42:52 706374756A6761636837060 wrote:
seems as though you dont recommend changing out batteries? :-? i ride far sometimes but not so far others i live twenty min from most civilization so my ride home should be enough to charge it up but while im out in town i make a few stops here and there! but i cant imagine the battery not getting charged up enough to start after a few stops around town. |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by Charon on 07/26/12 at 13:32:37 CCA, Cold Cranking Amps, is a number almost worthless on a motorcycle. It is the amount of current the battery can deliver for a specified time at zero degrees F, a temperature at which darn few people even try to start motorcycles. At higher temperatures batteries can deliver more current than the CCA number. The thing to remember is that the motorcycle starter motor (and the other loads such as the ignition box and lights) will only draw the current they need for a start. As long as the battery can supply that much current for long enough, things are good. It has been some time, but a couple or three years ago I used a clamp-on ampmeter on my S40, and the highest current I saw during a start was 80 amps. Once the engine started turning the current dropped, and of course when the engine started the current reversed due to the charging system. Until one gets into lots of cylinders, the starter has to push only one cylinder at a time through compression. The 650 single is just about the same starting load as a 1200 or 1300 twin. |
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Title: Re: Required Battery Output? Post by RanDaMan on 07/26/12 at 14:18:46 002B22312C2D430 wrote:
So basically any battery with regular CA equal to or higher will be acceptable? i just dont want to invest 200 bucks on a battery and have to push start the darn thing because i stopped at a gas station after riding for a short period of time or on the side of the road to take a leak. (if needed ;D ) |
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