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Message started by SimonTuffGuy on 07/23/12 at 17:52:17

Title: BCB Turn Signals
Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/23/12 at 17:52:17

I picked up a set of their black nickel turn signals for my kit to finish off the rear. I was not a fan of their little bullet lights, but these look SWEET!

http://pimptiva.com/gallery3/var/resizes/The-Bike/Blue-Collar-Bobber-Kit/IMG_20120723_192422.jpg?m=1343088572

http://pimptiva.com/gallery3/var/resizes/The-Bike/Blue-Collar-Bobber-Kit/IMG_20120723_192452.jpg?m=1343088582

http://pimptiva.com/gallery3/var/resizes/The-Bike/Blue-Collar-Bobber-Kit/IMG_20120723_180346.jpg?m=1343088567

The kit also included red and yellow lenses, so that I could change them up, and enough bulbs to keep me going for years. I am considering a set for up front and sorting out a way to mount them to replace the stock ones. They are dual filament bulbs, but so far I've only wired them up as turn signals for the time being. I need to go back and redo some of the wiring so that I don't have an extra 20" of wire on the signals.

Has anyone had luck with using a dual filament light, such as these, and wiring them as running/stop/turn signals all together? I'd like to remove the model a tail light, probably relocate the license plate up to that mount, and then just use these turn signals as my turn signals AND tail light (similar to the HD Nightsters). I've done some reading up on them... from what I gather, I'd wire the running lights up normally to both of them... and then I would wire the turn signal and brake light wires to the other filament wire... I think if I use some diodes, I won't blow things up. Or I've heard of kits that offer something like that. Anyone have tips or something that worked for you?

Once again - Super happy with BCB and their customer service, their fast shipping, and a GREAT looking product.

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by rfw2003 on 07/23/12 at 18:22:33

most automotive parts stores sell an adapter for trailers that allow the newer cars with separate turn signals and stop lights to work with them, that is what I'm using on my dual circuit led lights.

This is the one I bought.

http://www.delcity.net/store/Trailer-:-Tail-Light-Converters/p_9036.a_1.r_IF1003?gclid=CLy7xIqOsbECFVJntgodfnIAJA

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by verslagen1 on 07/23/12 at 18:23:55

I like em

from BCB?

dual filament on the rear should be red
you can connect to the tail light or the license plate light.

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by Millerman on 07/23/12 at 18:34:08

Looking good! :)

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/23/12 at 18:35:04

rfw - Thanks. I found those as well from searching around. I've heard of a 5 to 4 trailer wiring harness that people use too. I'm assuming that you have 2 of those harnesses on your bike then, one for each signal?

vers - Yup. They are not listed under the Savage kit. You have to look at their other kits to see the black nickel lights... But they fit just the same (rear anyways)... The front would need a mount of some sort, I'm going to get some measurements and see what their current kits look like in terms of fitting it.

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by rfw2003 on 07/23/12 at 18:39:49

The 3 to 2 one just doesn't include the grounds. You still only need the one unit. Also it only wires the bright side of the lights. You manually tie in the running light side to the low level yourself, since that side doesn't need to be switched at any time.

R.F.

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by Badass94Cad on 07/24/12 at 05:13:56

Doesn't PA require a separate brake light and blinkers?

I thought I read that while researching custom car and bike laws of the state, as I'm moving here (I say "here" because I'm at work!) very soon. :P

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by rfw2003 on 07/24/12 at 05:40:44

1A393C392B2B616C1B393C580 wrote:

If that was the case most vehicles on the road would be Illegal in the state of PA. :P

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by Badass94Cad on 07/24/12 at 06:39:35

I'm sorry, let me clarify - I thought I read PA requires separate brake lights and blinkers on motorcycles, not all "vehicles," cars and trucks of course being different. ;)

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by Badass94Cad on 07/24/12 at 07:19:29

Can't find what I was reading, but I think I have a printout of it at home. What I've found in a quick online search is that turn signals are not required on bikes manufactured before 1973, but then some say the law is no signals required, some say it's open to interpretation. I thought I read turn signals and brake lights had to be "different."

Another interesting thing I found:

2002 Amendment. Act 229 added section 4309. See section 21 of Act 229 in the appendix to this title for special provisions relating to promulgation of guidelines to implement Act 229.
§ 4310. Motorcycle lighting.
Auxiliary lighting may be added to a motorcycle to protect the driver, including blue dot illumination, standard bulb running lights and light-emitting diode (LED) pods and strips.
(June 29, 2006, P.L.205, No.50, eff. 60 days)

Some other interesting things from the AMA website:

Handlebar Height
No restrictions

Maximum Sound Level
Max A-weighted sound levels as measured at 50 feet:
84dBA at 35 mph or less
88dBA above 35mph
PA Administrative Code Section 157.11 (a)

Mirror Left(L) Right(R)
Required; PA Vehicle Code 4534

Muffler
Required, modifications to increase sound level prohibited; PA Vehicle Code 4523

Turn Signals
Not Required
(Of course, they don't list a code to verify this!)

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by Greg on 07/24/12 at 07:26:18

I thought the new HD's came through with combo turn signal brake lights hanging on the side of the fender?

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by verslagen1 on 07/24/12 at 07:43:01

5D585F5453593A0 wrote:

I thought the new HD's came through with combo turn signal brake lights hanging on the side of the fender?

HD nightster has em.

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by Badass94Cad on 07/24/12 at 08:40:28

Cool 8-)

Combo blinkers/brake lights would be the least of my concern. I'm trying to figure out who I need to know to get a car with hydraulic suspension to pass! :-/ :P

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by brucey on 07/24/12 at 11:42:02

Those look great, I had the BCB bullet turn signals set up for running lights and turn signals. I think it may have been the lamps but they seemed to burn out way to frequently. I replaced them with some LED type from Harrisons specialties. BCB did not offer that type when I purchased mine or I would have got those for sure.

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/24/12 at 16:21:39

I've never read that they had to be separate. Space between them possibly? (as in, some of those all in one type lights may not quite be legal)... I would say it's probably more a safety issue (not having enough lights) than a legal issue.

I'm seriously considering a set for up front and just figuring out how to mount them up. They are slick.

Those trailer wiring addons seem like the way to go. I'm going to see what I can find local and will use the one linked above if I can't find anything else.

brucey - Exactly... I was looking at their other kits and saw that these bullets were available. I couldn't resist, especially at the price of them. They bolted right up and look a lot better than the mini lights...

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by Greg on 07/24/12 at 17:17:59

I can only seem to find these in kit form with the tail light. Did you get them separately?

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by SimonTuffGuy on 07/24/12 at 19:40:17

I emailed and requested just the lights... they invoiced my through PayPal for it.

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by Greg on 07/24/12 at 19:41:58

546E6A68695372616140727E070 wrote:

I emailed and requested just the lights... they invoiced my through PayPal for it.

Cool! Thanks!

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by SimonTuffGuy on 08/07/12 at 19:32:25

I added a set for up front now too. I removed the stockers, got a longer set of bolts and another washer and mounted them up tonight. I'm undecided if I'm going to keep them here... Or remove those brackets and then have something fabricated up that bolts to the headlight bolts instead (that is similar to how they mount up on their 800 Suzuki kit).

They sit in a lot closer this way, but they seem like it'll work for now. Just need to run the wires inside the headlight and solder on the connectors.

http://pimptiva.com/gallery3/var/resizes/The-Bike/Blue-Collar-Bobber-Kit/IMG_20120807_190312.jpg?m=1344391145

http://pimptiva.com/gallery3/var/resizes/The-Bike/Blue-Collar-Bobber-Kit/IMG_20120807_190356.jpg?m=1344391156

http://pimptiva.com/gallery3/var/resizes/The-Bike/Blue-Collar-Bobber-Kit/IMG_20120807_190415.jpg?m=1344391160

http://pimptiva.com/gallery3/var/resizes/The-Bike/Blue-Collar-Bobber-Kit/IMG_20120807_190423.jpg?m=1344391161

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by rfw2003 on 08/07/12 at 19:48:07

457F7B79784263707051636F160 wrote:

If those lights are 5/16 mount for the bolt I've got a set of these if ya wanna get them off me cheap. Couldn't use them with the lights I ended up with.

http://www.kuryakyn.com/Products/711/Two-Piece-Fork-Mounts

R.F.

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by SimonTuffGuy on 08/26/12 at 05:27:46

Finished wiring up the rear turn signals as running/turn/brake lights yesterday... I ended up buying one of the better rated kits vs. the cheaper alternatives. The cheaper ones seemed to be just a set of resistors in the box, which made for a weak flash. I grabbed a Hopkins 46255 tail light kit for $45 off Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CMKG6O/). It gets power directly off the battery, so no weak flash.

Wiring it was super easy. The kit was designed for a car, so there was a TON of extra cable that I ended up chopping off. Wired up using the harness ends, soldered, then heatshrunk everything up. Worked flawlessly!

Yanked the model A tail light off the BCB mount. I think my plan in the end will be to move the license plate off the axle mount and put it up top where the light mounted. I need to figure out a way to mount it up, but... will get there.

Anyways - Will post pictures or something once I've got something better.

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by SimonTuffGuy on 08/26/12 at 13:32:41

Derp - Completely forgot my question... Is there any way to stop the fast flash on the lights? Typically it would signal that a light were out, etc. Can I run something inline somewhere, change the flasher module, or....? It doesn't REALLY bother me, but I know that PA inspection has some weird law about the number of flashes per minute that a signal is allowed to be. I doubt it'll be a problem as is, but would like to be covered just incase.

Title: Re: BCB Turn Signals
Post by rfw2003 on 08/26/12 at 15:08:41

704A4E4C4D7756454564565A230 wrote:

best way is to get an electronic flasher module, otherwise you can use some load resistors inline with your signals to adjust the flash rate back to normal.

R.F.