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Message started by elitemunkeycrew on 07/15/12 at 16:31:17

Title: The Belt Guardian
Post by elitemunkeycrew on 07/15/12 at 16:31:17

Question in on the video.
I appreciate any advice. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNy3djArUjs&feature=youtu.be

Title: Re: The Belt Guardian
Post by Greg on 07/15/12 at 16:43:37

I hope it's fine like that. Mine is the same and has been for a while!

Title: Re: The Belt Guardian
Post by rfw2003 on 07/15/12 at 16:44:05

Myself I would put another washer in there or one that was alittle thicker then what you used. But if there is no movement in the shock it should be o.k. but it wouldn't hurt to have enough spacers in there to stop the bolt from turning.

R.F.

Title: Re: The Belt Guardian
Post by arteacher on 07/15/12 at 16:54:51

Won't hurt anything the way it is.

Title: Re: The Belt Guardian
Post by verslagen1 on 07/15/12 at 17:10:51

Was the ID of the washer small enough to engage the shock bolt?

Title: Re: The Belt Guardian
Post by clearush on 07/15/12 at 18:21:22

I didn't even bother with the washer.

If you add a washer and tighten it down for no movement, you will most likely bind up your shock movement. That bolt is a pivot point for the shock even though its not much, there is some rotation around the bolt when the swing arm moves and compresses the shock.

Title: Re: The Belt Guardian
Post by Oldfeller on 07/16/12 at 04:32:59


You are clamping up on a hard steel sleeve inside the rubber bushing of the shock.

The sleeve can slip (by design) inside the rubber shock bushing.

Reason for this is given in the post above, the shock must rotate part of a degree every time it compresses.

Title: Re: The Belt Guardian
Post by RanDaMan on 07/16/12 at 05:44:44

I just removed the belt guard on my bike too. Only I didnt compensate for the lost space of the belt gaurd   ::)  and over tightend that acorn nut i think its siezed on there now! it'll hold but when i go to take it off in the future i might have to sawsall that bolt off!  

Title: Re: The Belt Guardian
Post by elitemunkeycrew on 07/16/12 at 07:21:24


382B3C3D222F292B207F4E0 wrote:
Was the ID of the washer small enough to engage the shock bolt?



The inside diameter was a little snug I didn't have to force it on.

Title: Re: The Belt Guardian
Post by elitemunkeycrew on 07/16/12 at 07:25:53


17343C3E3D34343D2A580 wrote:
You are clamping up on a hard steel sleeve inside the rubber bushing of the shock.

The sleeve can slip (by design) inside the rubber shock bushing.

Reason for this is given in the post above, the shock must rotate part of a degree every time it compresses.


Should I throw on some lock tight? 26 lbs torque just doesn't seem that much to me.

Title: Re: The Belt Guardian
Post by elitemunkeycrew on 07/16/12 at 08:23:42

Follow Up Question:

I'm new to using torque specs, when reading the chart below on the right side under foot pounds there are two numbers.

ITEM                               N-m      |      ft-lb
Shock
absorber mounting nuts      20.0      30.0      |      14.7      22.1


Which one do I apply when torquing a bolt? The way I figured is 14.7 would be the low end and 22.1 would be the high end and as long as you torqued somewhere in that range you're good. Is my thinking all wrong?

Title: Re: The Belt Guardian
Post by renegade1 on 07/16/12 at 14:03:59

call me dumb but i just took the guard off and left it. havnt had any problems... yet haha

Title: Re: The Belt Guardian
Post by 360k+ on 07/16/12 at 19:28:42

I'm wondering if the bolt length is meant to bottom out inside the acorn nut, in this case?  If so, further tightening won't make any difference because the resistance isn't coming from the captured parts (rubber, sleeve, washers, etc.), it's coming from the cap on the acorn hitting the bolt.   This would allow radial movement of the shock mount, yet keep the bolt & nut from loosening (and coming off).   The only problem is the bolt length would be somewhat critical to allow this to work.

In fact, some of you might already be saying this???

Title: Re: The Belt Guardian
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/16/12 at 21:05:33

Just because someone writes a torque spec for every nut & bolt on something doesnt mean youve got to worry about it,, Its a NUT on a Bolt, get it tight, dont twist it off,, its not gonna fly off & fling the bike in a ditch, Torque matters on some things,, granted,, but common sense will get a guy thru most things, Feel,, youll know when its tite, or youll learn to .

Title: Re: The Belt Guardian
Post by Digger on 08/03/12 at 19:14:45


3432212A6A6660616A530 wrote:
...... This would allow radial movement of the shock mount, yet keep the bolt & nut from loosening (and coming off).....



I'm thinkin' that it would not take much radial movement down there to create a problem, the least of which would be a clunk during any appreciable shock movement.

There's three ways the bottom shock mount can move wrt that bolt: axially, radially, and circumferentially.  Perhaps you were referring to circumferential movement.

To answer the OP's question, if there is no clunking from that bolt, I think that you're OK.  I'd keep an eye on it, though.

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