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Title: Bike hit in parking lot Post by Steampowered Boy on 07/07/12 at 21:58:49 Hooray, I was parked in the In'N'Out parking lot in Burbank last Monday and when I came out, my month old LS40 was laying on it's side with the kickstand still down. There were two eye witnesses including the woman parked next to me who was in her car when it happened; despite the fact that the car was still in the parking lot when the Police Officer arrived, he told me that there was nothing he could do and I should just go home and file a claim with my insurance. Fortunately, just the plastic on the rear left turn signal was broken and a few light scratches but now I'm paranoid everywhere I go that it's going to happen again. Any tips on how to help prevent this in the future? |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by rfw2003 on 07/07/12 at 22:06:15 That really sucks. The cop was wrong on saying there was nothing he could do, especially since there were witnesses. That is a hit and run, plus leaving the scene of an accident. He just didn't want to deal with it. As far as how to minimize the probability of it happening again, if where you are at has bicycle parking park next to that, if not when you are forced to park in normal parking spaces, park where you bike is in a place within the spot for maximum visibility. For instance park toward the beginning of the spot and not deep inside of it, and always park it at an angle, something like this | \ | where the | is the lines of your spot and the \ is your bike. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by Paraquat on 07/07/12 at 23:00:32 Parking in the middle of the space doesn't always help. I had my mom's TS250 and a Geo pulled in the same parking space behind me and blocked me in (cars on all sides). I had to sit and wait for someone to leave. My advice is to stop eating at In 'n Out. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/07/12 at 23:07:23 Next time a cop tells you he cant help you, get his name, write down the car # & make a note of the time,,. |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by rfw2003 on 07/07/12 at 23:29:50 7C4D5E4D5D594D582C0 wrote:
That's why I don't park deep down into parking spaces. I park it towards the opening of the space, so some idiot in a small car doesn't block me in. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by LANCER on 07/08/12 at 03:50:20 495D4C090B0B083B0 wrote:
That's why I don't park deep down into parking spaces. I park it towards the opening of the space, so some idiot in a small car doesn't block me in. R.F. [/quote] YEP |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by High_Plains_Thumpr on 07/08/12 at 06:18:38 0A2D3C383429362E3C2B3C3D1B3620590 wrote:
You could file a complaint with the police department or speak with his supervisor. Police are not infallable (except in some countries). :P |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by Haggis on 07/08/12 at 06:54:04 I'd be devastated, I tend not to use busy car parks when using my bike but park, if I need to, on the street or in the quietest part of the car park, as far away from the shop as possible. Most drivers fight for the spaces close to the shop for convenience, I don't mind the extra walk if it makes my bike safer and I usually find that I still have lots of empty space around me or return. I do the same when parking my car in supermarket car parks, but on the odd occassion when I have parked the car too close I've been victim to the shopping trolley dent....now that really makes me angry >:( |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by arteacher on 07/08/12 at 07:27:58 496866695E516D60686F725E5569746C7173010 wrote:
You could file a complaint with the police department or speak with his supervisor. Police are not infallable (except in some countries). :P[/quote] +1- he should have been charged with leaving the scene. Just a lazy cop. And if you have his licence # he can still be charged. It has happened to me, and it took them 4 days to find the guy, and he was fined $700, and to pay my deductible. We have no fault insurance here. |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/08/12 at 08:01:27 Most drivers fight for the spaces close to the shop for convenience, I don't mind the extra walk if it makes my bike safer and I usually find that I still have lots of empty space around me or return. What she said,, & dont park so far up in a space. Theyre 1/2 way in before they even see the bike. |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by Steampowered Boy on 07/08/12 at 08:36:03 The irony in the situation is he was trying to get into the space across from me and according the the witnesses he backed up to 'straighten up' and hit the bike backing up. Then very quickly changed his mind, moved down 7-8 spaces and parked. The car was there the entire time while the cop was talking to me, he was even a motorcycle cop and told me about his ride at home but since the cameras in the parking lot didn't record it since I parked "so far away" (to prevent this type of thing) he said he couldn't confront anyone. The strange thing is: if he didn't know he hit my bike, why did he move 8 spaces away suddenly and the total length of time from when I noticed it to when the cop left was 2 and a half hours. Who hangs out at an In 'N' Out for 3 hours on a Monday during lunch rush? Someone who is waiting for the police officer in the parking lot to leave before they come outside to leave. I pointed that out to the cop but it didn't seem to register. So, $120 and an hour of work and "Argento" has a new turn signal now. |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/08/12 at 08:43:23 $120.00? Yikes,, |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by arteacher on 07/08/12 at 10:12:31 Something strange here. You said you had witnesses. Did the cop talk to them? If they left, did you get their phone numbers, and refer the cop to them? Cops won't do anything on one person's say, except talk to the other party. If you have corroborating witnesses he is pretty much obligated to follow through, and if he doesn't his supervisor should know about it. |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by verslagen1 on 07/08/12 at 10:26:56 did he at least make out a report? |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by Serowbot on 07/08/12 at 10:32:31 There for 3 hours?... He might work there... ...and with that being such a dangerous parking lot,... it wouldn't surprise me, if someone keyed his car,.. or broke off a couple of valve stems,... or spilled some brake fluid on his paint,.. or broke off a side mirror,... or,... Gosh,.. anything could happen in such a dangerous parking lot... Someone might even write,"Dumb A-hole" on his back window with white shoe polish... ...or,.. maybe it's just a satisfying exercise to imagine that something bad could happen... ;D ;D ;D... PS... Glad the damage ain't too bad ;)... |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/08/12 at 10:50:42 Or just waited outside to talk to him & explain the pain the damage caused & give him the opportunity to make restitution,, & make sure your license plate is nowhere to be seen, & he doesnt need to know your name, |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by 360k+ on 07/08/12 at 12:06:44 7C6365627F7849794971636F24160 wrote:
Whoaaa, thems Texas fighten words ;D 1st incident... I once eye witnessed a lady backing out in a parking lot hitting a bike and knocking it over. Afterward, she got out of her car walking back to see the bike laying on its side, then shrugged, got back in her car and drove off. I was sitting in my truck and she had not seen me, but I quickly jotted down her car make, color, and plate number. I made another copy including my name, phone number, and what I saw, then taped it to the bike. That same eve I got a call from the victim asking me if I would be willing to tell the police what I saw. I told him yes, and to just let me know when, where, etc. He thanked me, but I never heard anything further. 2nd incident... My son and I had ridden to town and were in a restaurant eating. The restaurant had a good view of the parking lot, which is why I tend to pick those places. A guy who had parked next to my bike walked out, got in his truck, and started backing out, turning his head looking back over his shoulder. I saw his front fender clip my bike, then push it over. I had already jumped up and was running outside, when I saw the guy look ahead clearly seeing my bike laid over. Instead of stopping, however, he started moving toward the parking exit when I ran in front of him. He stopped, got out, and asked if it was my bike? I told him it was, and asked two questions I thought pertinent at the time 1) WTF? and 2) how did he feel about being charged with a hit-n-run accident? He said he was sorry, was a contractor (he had ladders, etc.), and couldn't afford any more points, so could we keep it "private"? I decided to give the guy a break, so we exchanged info, then I inspected the bike seeing a broken mirror and a cracked hard luggage side bag (BMW plastic). He gave me $100 on the spot, asked me to determine the total cost, and promised that he would send the rest within the week. A week passed, and of course, no call. I called him to ask where the check was, to which he made several excusues. Anyway, this went on for several weeks. I finally decided to call his insurance companies (he had 2), but the policy numbers he had given me belonged to someone else. I called back telling him that I had contacted his "insurance" and they had never heard of him. I told him I would give him 2 more days, then I was going to the police to report the accident and that he had also supplied false insurance at the scene. I received my check the 2nd day. |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/08/12 at 12:28:45 Ohhh, YOU did Good,, twice.. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by arteacher on 07/08/12 at 15:11:50 I decided to give the guy a break," I don't do that anymore. I had a '74 Volvo wagon. They had shocks built into the bumper mounts to absorb mild impacts. Anything more than mild and it would blow the seal in the shock, rendering it useless. I was stopped at a red light and was rear ended by a kid who was receiving driving instruction from his grandmother hard enough to break the shock. The grandmother begged and pleaded for me not to go to the insurance or the police, and that she would settle up when she received a copy of the invoice for the repair. I told her what they cost (I had just replaced it) and that I would save her some money by putting it on myself. She gave me her address and phone number, I bought the new shock and sent her the original receipt after making a copy for myself. Of course, I heard nothing from her. After contacting her three times, each time getting a promise to pay she finally told me very nastily, I was taking advantage of an old woman and to leave her alone. I phoned again and she hung up on me. I phoned yet again and her son answered. He hadn't heard anything about it, apologized for his son and mother, and sent a cheque the next day. As that was the third similar situation I vowed never to cut anyone a break again. |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by Badass94Cad on 07/08/12 at 16:23:50 22362762606063500 wrote:
Wouldn't that be the "run" part of hit and run? ;) |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by Boule’tard on 07/08/12 at 16:54:03 303B3B323E31302A2B5F0 wrote:
+1. Give people time, they'll talk themselves out of all responsibility. Back in high school I had a similar accident, just sitting there in a line of cars, and CRUNCH there goes my bumper and tail light. Similar damage to the energy absorber.. it was to cost about 600 bucks to fix. The guy went from all "yeah yeah, I'll fix it, just send me the bill!" to refusing to even sign a statement that an accident had occured (so that my uninsured motorist coverage could handle it, since the loser had no insurance) because by then he'd talked to his lawyer cousin who told him that signing such a statement "wouldn't be smart." And then on some other phone call, his sister picked up and went off about how their sheriff friend was gonna "kick [my] ass" and I'm a "diyyupsheiit," etc.. real winners there. >:( I eventually got the campus cop to talk to the guy, and he explained that the accident was clearly his fault, he had no legal leg to stand on and that he might as well sign a statement to help me get my car fixed by my own insurance.. and that is how it ended. Two things: 1) I must acknowledge that for purposes of documentation, a cop was indeed helpful. Never before or since, but in that case, yes. 2) Arteacher is right, it is foolish to let people off with their worthless promises.. get documentation up front if at all possible. |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by 360k+ on 07/08/12 at 17:13:00 4A475D444D5C495A4C280 wrote:
I know, I know, I'm just a sucka, I guess. :) I did get all the docs (for what they were worth anyway). Lemme tell ya, I was pissed and going to turn the guy in, but when he said he would probably lose his license and job, and had a wife and kids, it did get to me a little. I really don't care much about adults getting themselves in trouble, but I take exception when kids are involved who have no choices. |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by Boule’tard on 07/08/12 at 17:55:47 It's always a sob story and excuses until there's a threat of the hammer actually going to drop.. then the money mysteriously shows up. You did good 360k, in at least keeping your options open until the guy paid up. Here's another story. I got forcibly uh, "ejected" off my bike in another accident that was clearly the other driver's fault. The cop showed up and made out a report that showed that the driver, an inattentive ditz, had shown proof of insurance. So after a little patch-up at the hospital I think "Whew! My bike may be totaled, but at least there's liability insurance and everything will come out square." She'd bought insurance, got an insurance CARD, then canceled it to get her money back. So she couldn't pay, but ohhHohhohh she's so poor, and will I take payments until everything is made good? At that point, what I am I going to do. After a HELL of a lot of prodding and teeth-pulling and listening to how poor she was, she got it paid down to where the remainder was about what we could get someone to pay for the trashed bike. |
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Title: Re: Bike hit in parking lot Post by rfw2003 on 07/08/12 at 18:24:54 7F5C595C4E4E04097E5C593D0 wrote:
Wouldn't that be the "run" part of hit and run? ;)[/quote] Technically yes, but here in TX they will charge you for both in an instance like this. |
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