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Message started by rfw2003 on 06/29/12 at 15:25:55

Title: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by rfw2003 on 06/29/12 at 15:25:55

Anybody know of any paint guns that work fairly well with the smaller air compressors?? All I have access to right now is one of the smaller 2 tank ones that put out maybe 3.5 cfm I think.

Or would I be better off trying to do it rattle can style since I can't afford to upgrade my compressor. I just can't grow into the Suzuki yellow. :P

R.F.

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by lch2 on 06/29/12 at 15:38:10

I have one of those compressors, and paint fairly well with a low pressure paint gun (the paint gun and compressor work OK it is just my lack of skills)

mine is just like this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HVLP-SPRAY-GUN-High-Volume-Low-Pressure-PAINT-painting-sprayer-air-pneumatic-/370624541666?pt=Paint_Paint_Supplies&hash=item564af1b3e2

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by rfw2003 on 06/29/12 at 15:47:07

Thanks for the info Ich, Glad to know they work O.K. with the smaller compressors. Will have to pick me up one of those and give a a shot.

R.F.

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/12 at 15:50:16

and give a a shot.

Ohhh No you Didnt!

& Ive seen paint done with rattle cans that was simply gorgeous.

No matter the equipment, I am in no danger of creating a nice paint job,

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by rfw2003 on 06/29/12 at 15:52:31

It's been awhile for me so I don't know how well I'm gonna do. I figure I'll practice first on a few of my computer cases, before I move onto the Savage.

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/12 at 16:00:24

That computes,, even for me

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by rfw2003 on 06/29/12 at 16:25:36

I've got enough of them to practice on. I have 1 server and 3 other towers in the house I can use for practice. Plus 2 laptops if I need more practice. :)

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by WD on 06/29/12 at 17:52:58

Get what is called a trim gun and practice with it. You don't really need much bigger for a Savage anyway, when the cup is empty you're ready for the next panel (s) or a beer anyway. Or for the same price as a good trim gun, get a cheap imported HVLP, you can spray the whole bike with one or two full cups of paint.

Have fun with it. Worst case you have to sand off some funky spots.

Painted cars, trucks and bikes for years. If you want a fairly cheap really durable only kinda toxic paint job, buy some Interlux Brightside Marine paint. Good stuff and less than 1/3 the price of automotive paints.

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by rfw2003 on 06/29/12 at 18:00:28

1F0C480 wrote:

Yeah I was thinking along those lines myself. Either of those 2 would work for me as the biggest paint job I have in the foreseeable future is my computer towers.

R.F.

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by cyclesarge on 06/30/12 at 09:25:51

I've been using one of those side feed Harbor Freight "touch up" guns (got it on sale for $7.99) for around 10 years now for doing touch and detail work on $1 million + luxury motor coaches. I HAVE painted parts (up to about the same size as a rear fender on the Savage) and had satisfactory results. Would I paint my bike with it? No, I have way better guns and access to a huge compressor that can power anything that runs on air. It all comes down to what results you find acceptable -vs- how much (time or money) you want to spend. I say"time" because you can paint your bike with a brush (or a Wagner airless sprayer), and if you spend enough time polishing you can end up with a very nice looking paint job. Would I recommend going this route? No, it's way easier to just use the proper paint gun and compressor in the first place.

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/12 at 10:10:44

Yea, you can do it Sarges way, or you can do it my way. My way takes less time, but costs more,, cuz I SUKK at painting, so, Id have to pay someone,

Good luck & please post pics of the project & end result.

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by rfw2003 on 06/30/12 at 15:24:12

746B6D6A7770417141796B672C1E0 wrote:

I will post pics when done. Will probably be more of a Fall/Winter project when I try it on the savage though. Want to get some practice in before I try it on the bike. It's been along time since I've done any painting, and I want to do a fairly decent job on it.

Yes I know it takes alot of work to get it done right Sarge. Lots of sanding, buffing and polishing. Plus lots of prep work is the key to a good finish as well.

R.F.

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by teabowl13 on 06/30/12 at 16:16:31

You should also look at getting an inline air filter for the compressor. They can build up condensation, and end up spraying water and oil out along with the air, and that will mix right into your paint... :-X

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by rfw2003 on 06/30/12 at 16:19:09

Already have one for my compressor. I've always used the water filters on them. Didn't like the milky stuff on my hands when using my air tools. :)

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by teabowl13 on 06/30/12 at 16:21:18

44504104060605360 wrote:

Already have one for my compressor. I've always used the water filters on them. Didn't like the milky stuff on my hands when using my air tools. :)

SMARTY-PANTS!! ;D

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by Dave on 07/01/12 at 12:30:43

I bought one of the Harbor Freight HVLP guns. I was going to buy the small one that was on sale for $ 8.00.....but bought a bigger one for about $ 20. It works well, and just takes a little bit of learning. In the past I have used a Binks #7. and it puts out a lot of paint and makes a very fine mist. The HVLP blows out much larger paint droplets with very little mist. The Binks #7 does a smoother job - but fills the air with the paint mist. The HVLP makes for more orange peel - but you can put most of the paint on the surface. When I am painting an old piece of farm equipment outdoors the HVLP works very well as the wind does not blow the paint mist away like it would if I used the #7.

If you are using a lacquer, epoxy or catalyzed paint that you can sand out the orange peel - the HVLP gun can do a great job.

The only problem I had with the HVLP gun was that there is a little adjustment for air flow at the bottom of the handle that is very easy to bump - and the first time I used it the thing worked great - then suddenly the flow was really crappy and it would not paint well. Finally I found that valve and opened it up again.....and then it worked fine.

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by cyclesarge on 07/01/12 at 12:47:12

Dave, you should always use a regulator on the paint gun, specially on an HVLP, where VOLUME is king. The "cheater valve" on the bottom of the gun reduces the volume of air to reduce the pressure and should always be run wide open.

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by cyclesarge on 07/01/12 at 12:59:23

One piece of advice I always tell anyone thinking about painting their own stuff. Follow the manufacturers mixing instructions to a "t". I've seen way too many new painters think they know more than the maker of the paint and over reduce, under reduce, "doctor" the hardener, etc, that can REALLY mess up your results. I worked with a guy (great airbrush artist, NEWB painter) that was trying to rush a clear job on a pick-up that he'd spent around 50 hours airbrushing (not cheap). The problem was that he only had hardener for HOT temps, so he added extra hardener, when this didn't work he added MORE hardener on the next coat, and then even more on the final coat. What he ended up with was a cottage cheese like finish that never dried, and he ended up having to strip the paint off. Then he rushed the airbrushing the second time because he was already "upside down" on the profit and the customer was NOT happy with the results.

Long story short, if you have any questions always get professional help, guessing will almost never work out.

Title: Re: Painting & Paint Guns
Post by Dave on 07/02/12 at 05:05:54

312B313E372133203537520 wrote:

I have a regulator at the gun, and also a regulator and water seperator at the wall where the metal plumbing stops and the hose starts. The little valve at the bottom of the handle caught me by surprise the first time I used it. I was spraying and all was well with the world....then suddenly the gun just stopped spraying and started drooling paint. It took me a little while to find the valve at the bottom of the handle as the cause......it just wasn't a place I was used to making any adjustments on a spray gun.