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Message started by rfw2003 on 06/23/12 at 04:14:13

Title: Timing Port Cover
Post by rfw2003 on 06/23/12 at 04:14:13

Is there a special tool that is needed to get this thing off. I've tried the biggest screwdriver I have in my tool box and I can't get it to budge at all. The one I have is the older style Craftsman with the square shaft and the tip is kinda fat and a bit wider then 1/4". I swear that the P.O. must have had king kong put the darn thing back on there.

Now that I've put the little bit quieter exhaust on the bike it sounds like I have a bit excess clearance on my lifters and I want to check the clearance and adjust as needed while I have the majority of the top part of the bike apart while doing some upgrades in lights and other wiring projects that I'm doing. I can't find my dial calipers atm so I can't measure the width of the slot to see if I can just buy a piece of flat stock metal to use with an adjustable wrench to break it loose. I need to buy some flat stock anyways for making some brackets for my new LED tail light and rear LED Turn/Run lights as well.

Also, I've seen controllers that allow you to convert single element/single intensity lights to brake/turn/run lights, but are there any out there that allow you to turn dual element/dual intensity lights to brake/turn/run lights? If not I guess I'll have to drag up my dormant circuit skills and make something up to make one that will take the input from the brake and turn signal inputs to allow them to function more like an automotive style like I want.

Thanks in advance.

R.F.

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by Dave on 06/23/12 at 04:28:41

It takes something really big and flat. I made my tool from a 3/16" piece of steel and I cut the blade to about an inch wide. It is not horribly pretty.....but it does the job. You could probably just get a 1" wide x 3/16" piece of metal from the hardware store and use a Crescent Wrench to apply the torque.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ngufyd.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/sbko0h.jpg

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by rfw2003 on 06/23/12 at 04:38:01

Thanks for the quick reply, That's exactly what I needed to know. Now I can get in there and check the rocker clearance and most likely have to adjust them. Don't think it's the tensenor yet as it's only got 8700 miles on her and the noise is much higher up then the oil filter cover area, and I don't feel it with my heels when I press them there while riding the scoot.

R.F.

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by clearush on 06/23/12 at 07:36:29

I bought a gasket scraper at Harbour Frieght for $3 and it fits perfect even has a square shaft in case I need a helping hand with a wrench.

http://www.harborfreight.com/carbon-gasket-scraper-98507.html

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by 360k+ on 06/23/12 at 07:47:19

I've always wondered about that slot; i.e., what is Zuk's reason for making it like it is? It's almost like one of those slots that you can use a big coin to open. I tried a 50 cent piece and it fits, but would really require a much bigger coin. It's probably because the slot is reasonably easy to machine.

BTW, do they accept bent 50 cent pieces at the bank? :)

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/23/12 at 07:50:37

I took a big washer & ground one part more flat to fit in the slot & ran a car door hinge pivot from years gone by thru it.
Big washer,some grinder time, vise grips & Bingo,,

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by verslagen1 on 06/23/12 at 07:56:05

an old brake pad works great, just needs a little trimming.

http://www.savageriders.com/verslagen/ValveAdj/DSCN0487.JPG

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by 360k+ on 06/23/12 at 08:00:33

Dropped it on the left side, eh, versy?

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by verslagen1 on 06/23/12 at 08:04:43

naw, on the right... twice.

that peg just happens to be better than the one that came with it.

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/23/12 at 08:19:20

My pegs are missing about the bottom 1/3rd of the end cap from draggin in corners..

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by 360k+ on 06/23/12 at 08:21:08

7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 wrote:

My pegs are missing about the bottom 1/3rd of the end cap from draggin in corners..

Careful JOG, you ain't ridin a beemer! 8-)

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/23/12 at 08:35:12

These things will lay over so far you cant leave your foot fully on the peg. The ankle wont bend that far. I have to slide my foot back so just the toes are on the peg, My right peg rubber is wired together on the bottom because its worn thru about 2 inches in & was looking like it was gonna come off, & theyre so low to the ground & then the suspension presses down, it all adds up to some peg grinding.

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by WD on 06/23/12 at 13:35:49

They all get the part from the same manufacturer (Honda) and they all take the same tool to remove it (Honda).

Lisa's Intruder has a hex head timing plug. You can buy them from any oem supplier online.

I just use a 5/8" i.d. washer and a piece of bar stock to remove the plug on my Savage.

Honda wants a fortune for the tool, you can make one for $2.00...

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by wambr on 06/23/12 at 22:19:17

I too very long tried to unscrew the lid. last season even adjust valve clearances, turning the engine from starter (Ural-a good school). so I have not succeeded until removed the left side cover and not applied VD-40 inside.

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/24/12 at 06:31:08

I use anti-seize on threads, but I suspect a strong tightening would make it hard to get off anyway. WD-40 is more of a penetrating oil than a long term lubricant. It evaporates. Either use oil, or grease, or anti-seize.
& remember to not tighten it too tight.

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by wambr on 06/25/12 at 09:50:01

THX Justin o guy 2! now i haven't troubles with timing port cover. i loosen it and now never tighten.
p.s. as saying Russians: you burn your fingers, then water will blow! :)

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by Dave on 06/25/12 at 10:05:31

31272B2434460 wrote:

p.s. as saying Russians: you burn your fingers, then water will blow! :)

This must lose something in the translation. :-/

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/25/12 at 10:19:20

Hey Wambr,, just call me JOG,, save some typing,.

Everybody knows these engines vibrate pretty hard. I think most of us want to get things tight, so they dont vibrate loose. I tighten my cover up, then loosen it, to see how it feels. Once I get it tight enough that it doesnt come loose easy, I go back to as close as I can to That Tight..

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by wambr on 06/25/12 at 10:30:03

I understand JOG! :).
former owner of my BIKE apparently also very afraid of vibration and therefore so greatly tightened the nut. I so don't do. just dwell on the hand.

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/25/12 at 11:03:45

Ahhh,, a Thinking Mechanic,, instead of a Gorilla,, That will pay dividends ,,

I cant tell you how happy I am to have someone from Russia in here.. I think its Great..

Title: Re: Timing Port Cover
Post by Digger on 07/30/12 at 20:02:37

75617035373734070 wrote:

Is there a special tool that is needed to get this thing off......

Here is Motion Pro's answer to that question:

http://www.motionpro.com/images/items/08-0087.jpg

I have one of those (works fine), but I used to use this:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/Digger109/LS650/ValveTimingInspectionPlugTool-Washe.jpg

It is a 2 1/2" OD flat washer. I ground one edge thin enough to fit into the plug. I clamped it into the jaws of a Vice-Grip to use it. It worked great!