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Title: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by John on 06/22/12 at 16:26:22 Okay, so maybe "doomed" is too strong of a word. I was kind of hoping that it would grab some folks attention. Hopefully it will! Here's the scenario: I swapped out my handlebars around a month ago. Great decision! Much added comfort for my arms, upperback\neck, and shoulders. No more pain! Now I have a different predicament. I'm 6'0, with 40inches of the 72 being leg. While my upper half is fine, I'm now discovering more and more that my set is uncomfortable. My upper butt gets sore after around 30 minutes or so. From what I can tell, I need to take some off the back of the seat, widen it out, and raise it up. But my legs are also cramped. I've heard rave reviews about routy's fc's, but will 6 inches do it for me? Any ideas on what to do on the seat part? I'm starting to wonder if I should just get a bike that is physically bigger and go that route, or if there are other mods that I can do to the bike. I like the bike. It's great for hwys and the occasional interstate ride (although the vibration above 70 is a killer). The size is decent. I'm basically trying to figure out if I should "sink" some money into it\stick with it until after all mods are done, or if I should get a bigger bike? I don't know if it will affect(effect?) things, but I'm a even 200 lbs. Thank you in advance to all. I like the bike but also want to have one I can keep for the long haul (I've put 3k on it in 5 months). JC |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by arteacher on 06/22/12 at 16:38:00 Do Routy's forward controls and then make a decision. ;) |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/22/12 at 17:19:14 Im a whoppin 5'6" & wear a 30 inch pant leg. Even Ive found myself scooting back onto the passenger part of the seat., Ive wonder why people move the controls forward when it seems to me the seating position could be moved back easier & for a lot less $$. |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by 360k+ on 06/22/12 at 17:35:23 John, go test ride some bikes and see what fits. Usually new bikes are awkward at first, but a few miles of riding should give you an idea. BTW, you could put this title to Steppin Wolf's "Born to be Wild" on Karaoki night. The rest of the lyrics might just make sense too. JOG, why are those 30's so hard to find? I went into a store a week ago and they had no inseams below 32. I asked the salesman why and he said, "we always sell out of those as soon as they arrive". Now I'm no marketing genius, but do I detect a sales opportunity here? |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by Serowbot on 06/22/12 at 17:47:31 John,.. have you done the front seat lift mod?... That helps more than you would imagine... Try it,.. you can always change it back, it's easy, and cost less than $5... Mine is lifted 2"... See here... http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1109035237 http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/rerun/tanklift003.jpg |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/22/12 at 18:45:07 7472616A2A2620212A130 wrote:
Dang 'Fino,, I will say this. Last time I went shoppin I went to 3 stores before I found ANY,, then I bought all they had. One, |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by SuperSavage on 06/22/12 at 22:41:38 I also am 6"1" with a 33-34" inseam and Routy's FC's controls did the trick! I replaced the bars and risers - 2 inch risers, with 32 inch wide bars with a 5 inch rise and 7 inch pullback. The combo was perfect for me on a 2006 s40. I will do the seat rise mod next. The s40 is more comfy now than my Vulcan 800... ;D |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by rfw2003 on 06/22/12 at 22:47:41 I'm 6'1" with 32" inseam. I have routy's controls and I also got a Corbin seat. The combo of these 2 things have made a world of difference in comfort of the ride. My knee's are no longer sitting above the tank now as it was with the stock seat and no forward controls. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by Routy on 06/23/12 at 07:27:15 While the FCs do make the bike much more confortable, I could never tell you that they will cure all your ills. I (@ 6') still find myself getting a perdy sore behind in less than an hr of riding. But then,.....I'm old,......and I get a sore behind just driving a car after 50 miles or so. The rest stops are 36 miles apart here, and I stop at every one sometimes,....or at least every other one. But I always blame it onto "the dog has to go "p" ;D |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/23/12 at 09:00:25 The more forward the feet, the more weight on the butt,,mid controls allow a guy to stand up over a bump, try that with feet straight out in front. Gonna hafta have a nice seat to ride long because the design forces us to put all our weight on the seat, all the time, |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by Serowbot on 06/23/12 at 09:11:06 0B141215080F3E0E3E06141853610 wrote:
+1... never heard of anyone complaining about "legroom" on a standard bike... Stock peg position just allows me to "post" over road hazards... Any further forward and your azz is planted... For real comfort,.. raising the seat is a better option than feet forward... |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by WD on 06/23/12 at 13:29:42 SuperSavage, swing the 800 by here, I'll put it to good use. One of the best bikes I ever had was a 99 VN800A, would love to get hold of another one. Even have a full rear fender in my stash for it... My Savage has a modified VN800A seat on it, floorboards and 15" rise bars in the stock 98 model risers (came with buckhorns, short riser). 6'2" 230# and the baby bike fits better than it ever did stock. |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by 223fan on 06/23/12 at 19:07:01 I am 6'1" and put Routy's f.c. on and it made a world of difference.Like you I was thinking about re-shapinng the seat but the f.c.'s seemed to have fixed the problem,the longest I have rode with them is an hour and a half without stoping,ain't had a chance to try a longer ride yet. |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by Wake51 on 06/24/12 at 01:26:26 Seems many have provided a fix to resolve the space issue. I've also heard many talk about putting buck shot in the handlebars and sealing the ends. The weight dampens the vibration problem. I added drag bars and didn't do the mod. The vibes don't bother me as my HD Sportster is far worse. Unfortunately I'm used to them. But I'm sure a search would yield enough information for a fix if you're interested. Otherwise I'm sure a few could lend a helpful suggestion! |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by Routy on 06/24/12 at 07:01:22 quote: never heard of anyone complaining about "legroom" on a standard bike... --------------------------------------------------------------- No ???? Where have you been ?? |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by Serowbot on 06/24/12 at 10:46:22 6F607A617D7B686A626C7B090 wrote:
Well,... this is my first, foot forward, cruiser type bike... I've gotten used to it, and made some adjustments... but, it definitely puts more pressure on the butt and lower spine... I'm just sayin',.. if you want comfort, you want to relieve that pressure, not add to it... |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by Routy on 06/24/12 at 13:18:34 Correct for that part, but the biggest complaint is leg room (knees in chin) for all us guys over 6'. |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by bill67 on 06/24/12 at 16:28:00 My self I really don't like the cruiser foot position I like the standard a lot better. |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by RidgeRunner13 on 06/24/12 at 19:27:31 I think I have the best of both worlds. I got a set of Ed L.s' & a set of H-D floorboards & combined the two. Now I have room to move my feet foward, or if I place the balls of my feet at the back of the boards, I can get most of my weight off of my butt when I need too. The H-D handlebars help with the weight transfer too. 8-) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n94/Pappygt13/Savagemakeover001.jpg |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by mnefred on 06/25/12 at 02:45:07 I'll definitely +1 for Routy's F/C's!! I'm 6'4" with a 36" inseam @230#. The bike went from barely rideable for me, to my daily driver. Minimum 30 miles a day, and so comfortable the bike often demands that I take the long way home. Now, I will say that the set up is not yet perfect. The stock seat is now good for about an hour, maybe a bit more. The next thing I'll do is the lift on the front of the seat. That should help relieve the tailbone pressure. I'm also considering a Harley Police seat mod, or possibly a custom. I sat on a Corbin, and didn't like it because it pushed me about an inch forward, and lowered me about an inch. Both exactly counter to what I need. I have a CanAm Spyder RT with a $1000.00 custom seat. It has a full 4" lift over stock which is all they could give me. Beautiful work, but it did not fix my problem. I'm simply too long in the leg to fit that bike with the pegs under me. I've determined the problem would be the same on any bike with that peg placement. {Goldwings, BMW's, etc.}That leaves the best option for me being forward control cruiser-type bikes. In both bikes, moving my feet forward {highway pegs on the Spyder} made the most immediate improvement, and for the least money! I'd also recommend getting your feet where you want them before moving the seat around, other than maybe the seat nose lift. As I understand it that mod is easily reversible/removable. As an interesting side note, I've had the Spyder about a year, and put about 13,500 miles on it. I bought the S40 because I wanted a simple, inexpensive bike to chase the wife around on when she's on her bike. I started riding the S40 full time a couple of months ago, while I'm working on the Spyder. Now the Spyder sits in the shed, still waiting my attention! As soon as I can I'm going to unload my high tech $25,000 trike, and keep my $5000 thumper. Kinda an expensive way to learn what I really want to ride.. :-[ |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by rfw2003 on 06/25/12 at 03:24:19 [quote author=45464D4E5A4D4C280 link=1340407582/15#19 date=1340617507]I'll definitely +1 for Routy's F/C's!! I'm 6'4" with a 36" inseam @230#. The bike went from barely rideable for me, to my daily driver. Minimum 30 miles a day, and so comfortable the bike often demands that I take the long way home. Now, I will say that the set up is not yet perfect. The stock seat is now good for about an hour, maybe a bit more. The next thing I'll do is the lift on the front of the seat. That should help relieve the tailbone pressure. I'm also considering a Harley Police seat mod, or possibly a custom. I sat on a Corbin, and didn't like it because it pushed me about an inch forward, and lowered me about an inch. Both exactly counter to what I need. I have a CanAm Spyder RT with a $1000.00 custom seat. It has a full 4" lift over stock which is all they could give me. Beautiful work, but it did not fix my problem. I'm simply too long in the leg to fit that bike with the pegs under me. I've determined the problem would be the same on any bike with that peg placement. {Goldwings, BMW's, etc.}That leaves the best option for me being forward control cruiser-type bikes. In both bikes, moving my feet forward {highway pegs on the Spyder} made the most immediate improvement, and for the least money! I'd also recommend getting your feet where you want them before moving the seat around, other than maybe the seat nose lift. As I understand it that mod is easily reversible/removable. As an interesting side note, I've had the Spyder about a year, and put about 13,500 miles on it. I bought the S40 because I wanted a simple, inexpensive bike to chase the wife around on when she's on her bike. I started riding the S40 full time a couple of months ago, while I'm working on the Spyder. Now the Spyder sits in the shed, still waiting my attention! As soon as I can I'm going to unload my high tech $25,000 trike, and keep my $5000 thumper. Kinda an expensive way to learn what I really want to ride.. :-[/quote] On the Corbin, The one you sat on wasn't made for you. They custom tailor each seat for each persons inseam and weight. Plus if you don't like the fit when it gets there, you can send it back and they will adjust it to make it right. R.F. |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by mnefred on 06/26/12 at 01:01:39 So, how do you go about ordering a custum from Corbin? I can't find anywhere on their web site that asks for that kind of info. The one shown on the site is the one I sat on. It would be great if they did a custom, without going into the multi-hundred dollars range. Been there, done that, hurts!!! :o |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by babyhog on 06/26/12 at 12:26:38 Have you considered trying a seat pad? Saddlemen makes a nice assortment.... in fleece, pillow style, or memory foam. http://www.saddlemen.com/en/products/saddlegel-pads They also have "raw gel" which I actually bought, and inserted into my seat, after trying one of the fleece pads first. Just another thought for you... |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by rfw2003 on 06/26/12 at 12:44:54 5E5D5655415657330 wrote:
When your order it, That is when you get the form that asks you the questions about your size and what not. |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by Blinky on 06/26/12 at 13:22:27 John, I added Routy's forward controls and that took care of most of the leg room issue. I still found myself wanting to sit just off of the back of the riders seat and a trip of any distance got the backside numb. I added the Air Hawk 2 pad and that helped but was only part of a solution. I did the seat lift modification that is well documented but also moved the entire one piece seat back about an inch by moving the mounting tabs bolted to the bottom of the seat forward, using only one bolt to hold the bracket to the seat. I drilled out the two pop rivets holding the rear bracket to the seat, moved the bracket forward, drilled new holes and installed new rivets. In addition to moving the seat back about an inch, the entire seat platform is raised maybe 3/4 of an inch. This modification plus the $80 Air Hawk 2 pad allowed me to ride 145 miles with one brief gas stop without the numbness and I felt I could have gone another lap. The front seat mod costs a few bucks and moving the seat back costs nothing if you already have a pop rivet gun. The nice thing is both are reversible of they don't work out for you. I am certainly not a technical writer and my description may be hard to follow, so if you are interested, I can try and post some pictures. Best regards |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by John on 06/26/12 at 17:00:40 All, thank you for the advice. It sounds like both of them are the way to go. I'm considering turning my seat into a one seater, then adding an aluminum box to the back where the passenger was. If I do that, how hard would it be for me to either a ) cut the stock seat in half, then tailor to my needs or b) by a sweet single seat that would "do the trick"? Any one got a single seat savage, that's around my height and build, that could give me tips? @Ridgerunner...how did you do the harley mod? I'm curious. John |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by John on 06/26/12 at 18:38:42 Babyhod, for the gel seat, did you remove the stock seat, then put the gel seat on top of the plastic "frame", or did you add it to the stock seat? |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by mnefred on 07/02/12 at 03:46:31 Hey John, Check out Paladin's High Noon seat here. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1214704691 I've been thinkink about trying this one myself. Luck! Mark |
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Title: Re: Doomed to be uncomfortable? Post by WD on 07/02/12 at 18:51:53 I kept my stock front section. Bike is a 98 model. Trashed the factory foam and cover, reupholstered the pan with 2 layers of 3/8" blue ensolite and water buffalo leather. Worked good for me for 10 years. Have since swapped seats, but PM me if you want the stock front section, I threw it in the forge building "just in case". |
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