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Message started by tizzyfit on 06/19/12 at 23:53:52

Title: Sea foam gas additive
Post by tizzyfit on 06/19/12 at 23:53:52

At the suggestion of some of you, I've been adding Sea foam religiously at every fill-up.  Any positive results have been marginal at best.  So, just exactly how long am I suppose to continue adding this product?  I've run about 5 tanks of fuel through the system and currently have 2050 miles on the Odo. The only other bit of information that may be helpful is my Suzuki is an 06 S40.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Routy on 06/20/12 at 04:12:51

Why are you ? There is no reason to run any additive in the fuel system, or any other system unless there is a problem of some kind, and even then don't expect any miracles from seafoam. IMO it is highly overated.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by bill67 on 06/20/12 at 04:32:18

My new Kia manual says every oil change to rune a fuel additive,If your motorcycle is running good just add it every couple month to keep the carb slide and petcock lubed.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by SaVaGeEaRL on 06/20/12 at 05:12:50

I had my main jet clocked or slide sticking and added seafoam which fixed it within five minutes of riding.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/20/12 at 05:22:31

What problem are you hoping it will solve? Ive probably run $50.00 worth thru my backhoe, it sounds so much better now I dont know what to say,,my 25 y/o pickup hardly ran on startup, now, it runs without me sittin there trying to keep it going, still surges Some, but not nearly so bad. & I drip a little in other things sometimes now,just to keep things happy,
If it aint messed up, ya cant Fix it.,
& some kinds of messed up, SeaFoam wont touch,

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by teabowl13 on 06/20/12 at 07:15:29

I doubt there's anything wrong with your '06 with only 2050 miles on it that Seafoam would fix, unless it's been sitting for long periods of time. That would allow gunk and varnish to build up in the carb, but if the bike was running well to begin with I'd say it isn't necessary.
I've always felt that the best way to keep the carbs clean and happy was to keep riding the bike regularly.
I tell my wife that it's necessary for proper maintenance!!  ;D

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/20/12 at 07:32:38

06 with only 2050 miles on it that Seafoam would fix, unless it's been sitting for long periods of time.

2,000 miles in 6 years is the definition of sitting for long periods of time,
Expect it to take a long time to smooth out or go in & clean the carb. Shoulda cleaned the bowl before even starting it. Now, whatever crud has broken loose has been dragged into jets & fuel passages.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Greg on 06/20/12 at 09:35:52

My '02 had 3700 miles when I got it a few months ago. It took 5 or 6 tanks to clean out. Are you putting enough in?

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Gyrobob on 06/20/12 at 12:29:46

Seafoam schmeefoam.  If you have muck in your carb, clean out your carb the right way.  If you have no muck in your carb, use a really good filter, and the solvents in name-brand gas will keep it clean.

Would you perchance be interested in any of these items I have for sale?
-- fuel magnetizers
-- vortex generators for the intake
-- tailgate nets
-- slick 50
I bought several of these over the years.  I believed the facts as stated by the manufacturers.  Had they worked as well as the testing results quoted by the manufacturers, my cars, bikes, and airplanes would have lasted for friggin' ever, and would have been making gas, rather than burning it.  Alas, the manufacturer's claims seem to have been a bit optimistic.  In fact, I had much the same results with these gadgets that I do with low-end solvents like seafoam.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/20/12 at 13:47:35

Keep spinnin it Gyro.. I doubted too, but upon using it, I saw a HUGE change in the backhoe & pickup. Ive been around mechanical stuff long enough to know dang near every additive is bogus, but Seafoam solved a very scary sounding hard clack in the backhoe that was caused by an injector & the truck was surging & dying, even after I changed the fuel filter, which drained literally Black garbage out of it. It still surges sometimes, but now it doesnt die.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Boofer on 06/20/12 at 16:21:21

I use SeaFoam. It works for keeping deposits out of my fuel system. I, like others on here have poured a little in rough running engines and seen almost immediate improvement. It won't remove a rock from an idle jet, but it does keep things bright inside, just like good oil does. Many on here complain it doesn't work, then we find out they are expecting unrealistic things and are using it against the instructions on the label. I use it maybe once a month when I remember it. It has worked for me. I am not selling it. Use it or not. Just don't get all tore up 'cause someone does or doesn't. Have you ever seen anyone hold an old truck engine wide open and pour water through the carburetor? I have. They was some major hairballs coming out the exhaust.  ;D I don't recommend it, but it worked. The guy who did it worked on P-47 Jugs in WWII.

I have a friend who was complaining about her Tahoe using too much gas and not starting right up. Her husband was impressed when they walked into a parts store and she asked for SeaFoam. The sales guy was really impressed with her request, so she just acted all cool like it was something she used all the time. Of course it just cleaned her injectors some, but her husband noticed the change and got her to tell where she got the idea. He just laughed when she told him it was me.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by bill67 on 06/20/12 at 16:53:50

I've poured water through the carburetor many times with the engine running then give it the gas so it don't kill.They always seemed to run better after I did it.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Savage_Rob on 06/20/12 at 17:09:39

I've used a few different kinds but typically I wind up using Marvel Mystery Oil.  I add it to a tankful of gas 4 or 5 times a year.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Gyrobob on 06/20/12 at 17:59:53


6D5F485F595B616C515C3E0 wrote:
I've used a few different kinds but typically I wind up using Marvel Mystery Oil.  I add it to a tankful of gas 4 or 5 times a year.


My Grandad used to put a mix of castor oil and molasses in the gas tanks of his tractors.  He was a farmer in Oklahoma.  He said he never once had to overhaul a carburetor.

My other Grandad was a farmer in Ohio.  He had a still, and would use the first jug of every batch as a gas additive in his tractors and trucks.  He said, "once you see what this stuff will do to a man's guts, you'll know right away it'll clean anything out of any fuel system anyhow."

MMO is as worthless as seafoam.  They are just solvents.  If you have some muck in your system that is susceptible to solvents, it might help if the conditions are just right.  A real mechanic would clean out the mucked up system like a man, rather than a cheerleader.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Nskawtea on 06/20/12 at 18:00:49

I added Sea Foam to mine after it was stored in the garage, it runs more smoothly and back fires less

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Serowbot on 06/20/12 at 18:06:26


526C677A777A77150 wrote:
[size=12]My Grandad used to put a mix of castor oil and molasses in the gas tanks of his tractors.  He was a farmer in Oklahoma.  He said he never once had to overhaul a carburetor.

He made Granny do it... :-?...

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Gyrobob on 06/20/12 at 19:06:32


605D454F595A4B4F2E0 wrote:
I added Sea Foam to mine after it was stored in the garage, it runs more smoothly and back fires less


Double amount and it'll be twice as smooth and backfire half as lesser.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by tizzyfit on 06/21/12 at 01:05:17

WOW! I guess Sea Foam falls into one of the following two categories:

1.  It's good for coughs, colds, sore holes and makes child birth a pleasure or,
2. It's a modern day version of snake oil.


Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by bill67 on 06/21/12 at 05:01:34

First thing I do with new car, lawnmower, snowblower is put Sea Foam in the gas and oil. It stays clean and lubed from the get go.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Gyrobob on 06/21/12 at 08:11:41


6E6560603A3B0C0 wrote:
First thing I do with new car, lawnmower, snowblower is put Sea Foam in the gas and oil. It stays clean and lubed from the get go.


Oh Bill,.. you're such a goose,..

Maybe if you mixed in a little molasses before you put it in, your machinery would last even longer, like my Grandad's tractors.

Could I interest you in a fuel magnetizer?  It's 12v, works on ethyl or regular, or, get this, diesel!!  Lifetime guarantee for as long as it works.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by HondaLavis on 06/21/12 at 12:35:10

Wow, it's interesting to see how opinions differ between different social groups.  I'm also part of a group dedicated to classic SOHC4 Honda motorcycles like the 750 and 500, and while Sea Foam isn't seen as a cure-all, it is definitely noted to make a difference.  Granted, nothing beats a true in depth carb cleaning, but it can be enough just to see if that 40 yr old barn find bike will run or not.

Sea Foam isn't snake oil, nor is it a replacement for disassembling your carb.  It's good to throw a few splashes in every few months to help keep things clean, though.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by teabowl13 on 06/21/12 at 13:13:09

The nice thing about our bikes is that there's only one big honkin' carb to deal with; so it's REALLY easy to just pull it and clean it...

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Gyrobob on 06/21/12 at 13:15:14


5770717B7E537E69766C1F0 wrote:
Wow, it's interesting to see how opinions differ between different social groups.  I'm also part of a group dedicated to classic SOHC4 Honda motorcycles like the 750 and 500, and while Sea Foam isn't seen as a cure-all, it is definitely noted to make a difference.  Granted, nothing beats a true in depth carb cleaning, but it can be enough just to see if that 40 yr old barn find bike will run or not.

Sea Foam isn't snake oil, nor is it a replacement for disassembling your carb.  It's good to throw a few splashes in every few months to help keep things clean, though.



Sea foam is nothing but a solvent.  That's a fact, not an opinion.  There are lots of brands of solvents.  They all do the same thing.  Most of them aren't overpriced like sea fu***ng foam.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Gyrobob on 06/21/12 at 13:16:33


675652515C445F0200330 wrote:
The nice thing about our bikes is that there's only one big honkin' carb to deal with; so it's REALLY easy to just pull it and clean it...



Halla loo yah!!!!


Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by bill67 on 06/21/12 at 13:17:35

You will find that most people on here that think Sea Foam is a snake oil have never tried it.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by bill67 on 06/21/12 at 13:36:45


7749425F525F52300 wrote:
[quote author=675652515C445F0200330 link=1340175233/15#21 date=1340309589]The nice thing about our bikes is that there's only one big honkin' carb to deal with; so it's REALLY easy to just pull it and clean it...



Halla loo yah!!!!

[/quote]
Why do the few wantabes on here alway write bigger than any one else.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by verslagen1 on 06/21/12 at 14:11:22


4B4045451F1E290 wrote:
[quote author=7749425F525F52300 link=1340175233/15#23 date=1340309793][quote author=675652515C445F0200330 link=1340175233/15#21 date=1340309589]The nice thing about our bikes is that there's only one big honkin' carb to deal with; so it's REALLY easy to just pull it and clean it...



Halla loo yah!!!!

[/quote]
Why do the few wantabes on here alway write bigger than any one else.[/quote]
zzzzzzing!  ooh that'll leave a mark.   ;D

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Gyrobob on 06/21/12 at 14:22:59


000B0E0E5455620 wrote:
[quote author=7749425F525F52300 link=1340175233/15#23 date=1340309793][quote author=675652515C445F0200330 link=1340175233/15#21 date=1340309589]The nice thing about our bikes is that there's only one big honkin' carb to deal with; so it's REALLY easy to just pull it and clean it...



Halla loo yah!!!!

[/quote]
Why do the few wantabes on here alway write bigger than any one else.[/quote]


I never heard of a "wantabe," so I looked it up:

wan[ch697] [ch721] tabe (wôn[ch697] - t[ch257]b)

n.
A person no longer scraping penguins or similar flightless birds




Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by bill67 on 06/21/12 at 14:49:19

So that means you are a flightless bird I guess.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by teabowl13 on 06/21/12 at 15:58:17

"n.
A person no longer scraping penguins or similar flightless birds"

I love this place...

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Savage_Rob on 06/21/12 at 16:27:55


053B302D202D20420 wrote:
MMO is as worthless as seafoam.  They are just solvents.  If you have some muck in your system that is susceptible to solvents, it might help if the conditions are just right.  A real mechanic would clean out the mucked up system like a man, rather than a cheerleader.[/size]

Yeah, well, I'm not a real mechanic.  The system isn't mucked up.  I use the solvent a few times a year to help keep it that way.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Boofer on 06/21/12 at 19:06:38

I use SeaFoam as a solvent, because it is a solvent. I found a supply for $5.99 a pint, but it runs close to $10 most places. A pint lasts a long time. Again, I don't want to make anyone use it, but if you have an old barn find you're trying to get running a few cents worth is worth a try. I feel the same way about starting fluid, even though it can hurt you and blow up an engine. People probably felt the same way when washing with soap was the new fad.

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Gyrobob on 06/21/12 at 19:07:46


5D56535309083F0 wrote:
So that means you are a flightless bird I guess.


As far as I can tell, you have not stopped scraping flightless birds, unless you are a wan   tabe.  Or do you not accept the role as a wan.  or a tabe.  

You are so confusing to me, billiam.  Sometimes I do actually try to understand how you could say some of the things you do, but everything you say seems to be a baseless assertion or accusation of some sort.  

For example, the times I have used seafoam, it worked pretty much like a solvent, yet you give it snake oil qualities.  Are you for it, or against it?  Does it actually do things like make your rheumatism go away, or does it just dissolve things like a solvent?

Maybe sometime you could actually think out a meaningful response that had some factual basis, and present it here.  Otherwise we'll still think all you ever do is to say "nuh-uh," or "that's dumb," or "you're wrong."

Title: Re: Sea foam gas additive
Post by Gyrobob on 06/21/12 at 19:18:32

My Walmart years ago for some reason was getting rid of a lot of the liquids in the auto section.  They had the solvents, oils, and miscellaneous cleaners all marked down a lot.  I found the autoshop manager and told him I'd give him $50 for the whole thing.  He said $100 and we settled on $70.  Good deal for me.  The Walmart standard price collectively on all that stuff was over $300.  

The lot included Seafoam, Berryman's Chemtool, Rislone, Gunk, synthetic 2-stroke oil, and lots of other stuff.  Most of it is gone now, but I'll admit the seafoam worked pretty well.  The Berryman's was the most powerful, though, and don't you dare ever let it drip on any paint.  What I learned from the comparison of actually using the stuff was that seafoam is literally nothing more than an overpriced solvent.  A strong solvent, yes, but nothing exceptional except for the exceptionally insulting price.

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