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Message started by Scott.aust on 06/14/12 at 04:33:39

Title: Raptor Petcock
Post by Scott.aust on 06/14/12 at 04:33:39

hello im a newbie so here goes my first question. Just got my Savage yesterday and the first thing i want to do is change the Petcock. i like the idea of an Off position. My problem is the local Yamaha dealer (im in Brisbane Australia) can get me a genuine one... from Japan, in about 3 to 4 weeks and for $135 !!! I can buy one off ebay from Zoom Zoom Parts in Michigan but it doesn't say if its genuine or a cheap copy, for $28.40 and $23 (big difference? ) shipping and it will take about the same time to get here. So does anybody know of this company or their product OR somewhere else to get one? Thanks Scott.

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by bojangals43 on 06/14/12 at 04:50:54

I ordered an "off brand" from Ebay ealier this year for about $28 (free shipping).  It does the job and I have no complaints.  The only reason the other one costs more is because it's probably OEM so therefore calls for a higher price.  There shouldn't be a difference in the product though, just the price.  You're probably looking in the right place unless someone local has one for a decent price in stock.  Good luck!  

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/14/12 at 06:03:06

Go cheap. You can go cheap 3 times & still not be in the hole,,

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Dave on 06/14/12 at 10:10:15

 
Watch out guys, the Ebay chinese units shown in this post are all short stem units that might not install to suit you (very short).

The eBay Rapot petcock thing is a bit funny.

You can buy a Chinese one brand new with shipping for $ 8.50.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATV-Gas-Fuel-Tank-Switch-Valve-Petcock-250cc-Hummer-ATV-Honda-Raptor-150CC-110CC-/180906257435?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a1eda6c1b&vxp=mtr

You can buy a new Factory one for $ 15.95 plus $ 5.95 shipping:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-GENUINE-OEM-FUEL-PETCOCK-YAMAHA-RAPTOR-50-YFM50-YFM-2004-2005-2006-2007-2008-/370609409972?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item564a0acfb4&vxp=mtr

Or you can buy a used 2009 model one for $ 24.95 plus $ 12.95 shipping from one of those salvage places:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-YAMAHA-YFM350R-YFM-350-R-RAPTOR-FUEL-SHUT-OFF-VALVE-PETCOCK-/270884153893?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f11f42a25&vxp=mtr

I got my Raptor from Ron Ayers and it was $ 18.46 - I needed some other parts and was already going to have to pay shipping anyhow.

Not sure about the guality of the Chinese ones.....they have substituted plastic tubes wher the original uses brass.

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Oldfeller on 06/14/12 at 11:19:22

 
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/sign017.jpg?t=1288393883


Here is the long stem Raptor petcock that we have been recommending and using -- notice the long body stem to get the petcock down to where you can get to it easier when riding (even with gloves on in the winter time)?    That long body stem also permits the easy tank removal that people like the Raptor for.  

Short stem units as shown up thread fit a different ATV.   They may not work nearly as well on the Savage.

Somebody is going to have to prove this new short stem unit out for mounting and for tank removal before we all should be running out to buy them as a list.

Price is nice, though.   Hope it works out OK.



Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Serowbot on 06/14/12 at 13:55:27

OF,.. I have a short stem from a Raptor 350...  The outlet nozzle is smaller... it's a very, very loose fit for the fuel line ( had to use smaller one that barely fit the carb nozzle), and I had to file a bit on the tank lip to make it seat... Basically, no good...
Later,.. I swapped to the 660 Raptor petcock, ... perfection... ;)...

PS... if you look closely, you can see a slight curve filed into the tank lip, in the above pic that you posted...

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Scott.aust on 06/14/12 at 15:33:42

Thanks for the help. I guess the short answer is either get a cheap one or one off a different Raptor and fiddle with it to make it fit.. OR buy the genuine Yamaha one which fits perfectly, has no quality doubts and won't leak. Considering a fuel leak can make a big bang very easily not really a hard choice. I will suck it up, pay the extra $$ and do it properly the first time ! Again thanks for the help.

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Dave on 06/15/12 at 10:31:05

I guess I lucked out when I bought mine.  I used the information on the Raptor Petcock in the technical section and got mine from Ron Ayers....and I go the correct one.

The long stem petcock is Yamaha part number 5LP-24500-01.

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Scott.aust on 06/15/12 at 18:15:20

Thanks for that Dave, rang a different local Yamaha dealer and asked for the part number above. He said oh! you have a 660 raptor? No but thats the petcock i need. Still has to come from Japan but will be here in 2 weeks and $96. Thanks everyone else for the help.

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Dave on 06/15/12 at 18:31:28


4F7F736868327D696F681C0 wrote:
Thanks for that Dave, rang a different local Yamaha dealer and asked for the part number above. He said oh! you have a 660 raptor? No but thats the petcock i need. Still has to come from Japan but will be here in 2 weeks and $96. Thanks everyone else for the help.


No Wait!!!!!  You can order it from Ron Ayers for $ 18.46 + shipping and have it in less than a week!

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Greg on 06/15/12 at 19:22:52

http://www.ronayers.com/ProductDetails/N/687/SKU/808680

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Scott.aust on 06/15/12 at 19:31:14

It's ok Dave, we do live in the global Internet world but I don't mind paying a bit extra, doing the right thing and shopping locally if I can. Keeps someone in a job!

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Greg on 06/15/12 at 19:35:52


55656972722867737572060 wrote:
It's ok Dave, we do live in the global Internet world but I don't mind paying a bit extra, doing the right thing and shopping locally if I can. Keeps someone in a job!

http://suzukisavage.com/yabb2.2/Smilies/thumbsup.gif

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by bikertrash on 06/15/12 at 20:21:40

What do you guys recommend for plugging the vaccuum port on the carb?

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Scott.aust on 06/15/12 at 20:23:31

thats a good question which i would need to be asking in about 2 weeks anyway !

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by verslagen1 on 06/15/12 at 20:25:47


2823212F383E382B39224A0 wrote:
What do you guys recommend for plugging the vaccuum port on the carb?

That port is for providing vacuum, not fresh air to the intake.

If you don't plug it, it will throw off your jetting.

anything, rtv on a screw, rubber caps, wooden stake, yada yada.

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Scott.aust on 06/15/12 at 20:33:57

i think they only sell square wooden stakes that are 3 foot long locally, will i have to modify it to fit ?

( NO not stupid, YES sence of humour ! )

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by verslagen1 on 06/15/12 at 20:46:41


70404C57570D42565057230 wrote:
i think they only sell square wooden stakes that are 3 foot long locally, will i have to modify it to fit ?

( NO not stupid, YES sence of humour ! )

learning to fit a square peg in a round hole - $0.89
lol - priceless

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Scott.aust on 06/15/12 at 20:56:00

i was thinking a little rubber cap should do the trick.

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Serowbot on 06/15/12 at 21:32:36

Rubber caps I used, kept disintegrating... I found a tapered screw that threaded in snug, and covered it with a rubber cap...
...for pretty... :-?...

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by SaVaGeEaRL on 06/16/12 at 09:40:07

I've been an auto tech for 26 years. I have several of those little rubber caps that come on wheel cylinder bleeder screws. They fit perfectly on the carb.

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Digger on 07/29/12 at 20:22:17

Here's what's plugging that vacuum port on my bike:


http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/Digger109/CarbVacuumPortPlugE.jpg


I squirted some RTV into the tube before folding it.  The tube was the OEM vacuum tube.  Been on there for several years now....didn't cost hardly anything (just whatever a small blob of RTV and two small zip ties cost).

IHTH!

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Pat on 08/05/12 at 13:28:28

I recently did the Raptor Petcock and it works great, I bought mine from PowerSportsPlus.com for around $19 Plus shipping. I used a vaccum cap you can get at any parts store.  Pat

Title: Re: Raptor Petcock
Post by Boule’tard on 08/05/12 at 14:39:40


0A3A362D2D77382C2A2D590 wrote:
i think they only sell square wooden stakes that are 3 foot long locally, will i have to modify it to fit ?

You have a lathe, right?  :D  No problem.

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