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Message started by Jason Spangler on 06/09/12 at 18:44:59

Title: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by Jason Spangler on 06/09/12 at 18:44:59

I bought a 2002 savage that was not running. Cleaned up the carb and emptied all of the gas out of the crank case, fixed the stuck float and fixed the stuck petcock (hence gas in crank case).

The bike came with a super trap megaphone exhaust and the sound it creates isn't really my style. So I'm looking for a stock setup. I see anythin from 95 to 2011 systems and mufflers for sale but havent seen a 2002 yet. My question is what model years will be bolt on compatible? Also anyone want to buy a super clap I mean super trapp muffler? Thanks guys! - Jason

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by teabowl13 on 06/09/12 at 18:48:39

Post some photos of your Supertrapp; I'm sure lots of folks here would trade you for their stock pipe!! I would, but I have my exhaust sorted out.

Before you get rid of it though; you do realize that you can tune those Surpertrapp pipes and change the sound. Probably quiet it down quite a bit depending on how it's set up now.

Also; if your carb has been re-jetted to work with that pipe, you may need to address that also if you switch back.

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by Boofer on 06/09/12 at 19:09:20

Jason, I have a stock '01 muffler and heat shield you can have for freight. Not perfect, but very good. Baffles are lost. You would have to buy or make some. PM if you want it.

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/09/12 at 23:11:11

Before ya ditch the TRapp, can ya post a pic of it? The back in particular. & Count the baffle p0lates.

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by verslagen1 on 06/09/12 at 23:29:14

all years are the same

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by Routy on 06/10/12 at 05:34:57

6845454C4F582A0 wrote:

Jason, I have a stock '01 muffler and heat shield you can have for freight. Not perfect, but very good. Baffles are lost. You would have to buy or make some. PM if you want it.

How do the baffles come out of a stock muffler ? Just curious.

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by bill67 on 06/10/12 at 05:57:47

You would have to cut out the whole back end then you could work it out,I've haven't done it but have seen it done.

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by Jason Spangler on 06/11/12 at 19:50:33

I just got back in town, so sorry about the delayed reply. I took a picture of the exhaust. I'm vaguely familiar with Suppertrapp and it appears I don't have any discs installed at all, hence the massive sound.

Good to know that all years are compatible with my bike. I'll check out my options on ebay soon.

Here is a picture of my bikes exhaust.

http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h467/jaseun/3703aec6.jpg

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by verslagen1 on 06/11/12 at 20:50:19

does it still have the core?

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/11/12 at 20:57:53

A pic from behind would help.,

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by Jason Spangler on 06/12/12 at 17:14:37

Here is a look up her poop shoot. Wide open. Way loud.

http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h467/jaseun/e1b37845.jpg

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/12 at 19:29:49

Mmkay,, its missin the disks & cap.. Are there any threaded parts back there to run a screw into? If not, can you JB weld some nuts in there lined up on the holes? If so, wait, get some disks, Im running 14, but you can get 2 packs of 6.. Heck,, do they all have caps or do they just have diskis? Im pooped & cant remember & dont wanna walk to the shop..
Anyway,, disks come with SS bolts, IIRC..
Even if you have to take it & have nuts welded on & shim to the first disk,,
OHH, Wait! A piece of 3/16ths stainless with a hole in it to match the ID, threaded, welded up there & shazzam,,

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by Boofer on 06/12/12 at 20:11:05

454A504B57514240484651230 wrote:

[quote author=6845454C4F582A0 link=1339292699/0#2 date=1339294160]Jason, I have a stock '01 muffler and heat shield you can have for freight. Not perfect, but very good. Baffles are lost. You would have to buy or make some. PM if you want it.

How do the baffles come out of a stock muffler ? Just curious.
[/quote]
Routy, they fell out. ;D

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by verslagen1 on 06/12/12 at 20:30:16

Yeah, you've lost three of the inserts, and the other three don't look so good. replacement core is about $100 and disks and cap will run another $50 I think.

If the shell ain't scraped up, I could use it to replace the one in my F250 encounter.

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by Jason Spangler on 06/12/12 at 22:18:59

If I could spend $150 or less to make this system work I'd be all for that because it seems a used stock muffler is about that much or more from fleabay. I guess I need to look into finding discs and an 'insert', what is an 'insert' anyways?

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/13/12 at 04:50:10

The "Inserts" are a female threaded hunk of stuff that are "Inserted" into the end of the core, so the bolts that hold the Disks can be mounted.

You Can solve that problem by having a piece of plate cut to fit & welded in, drilled & tapped. SS would of course be expensive, plain Ol steel,, not so expensive.

The more disks, the lower the restriction., stock TRapps come with 8, packs of 6 are sold, different cap styles are out there.
Cal Supertrapp.

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by Dave on 06/13/12 at 05:22:11

You need the stainless screws. I believe they are 10-24 screws and they need to be a minimum of 1-1/4". Here is a link to some on eBay that seem a bit pricey - you should be able to find something at a good hardware store:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SuperTrapp-Disc-Screws-Stainless-Steel-Fits-4-0-Diameter-End-Caps-Set-of-6-/370621595189?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item564ac4be35&vxp=mtr

Here is an end cap with writing stamped in, mine is plain:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SuperTrapp-Muffler-End-Cap-Closed-Stainless-Steel-Polished-4-Diameter-Each-/370615334219?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item564a65354b&vxp=mtr

Here is an end cap that is aluminum:http://www.ebay.com/itm/SuperTrapp-402-3046-Muffler-End-Cap-Closed-Aluminum-Natural-4-Diameter-Each-/390422371048?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5ae6fc9ae8&vxp=mtr

And here is a 6 pack of discs....mine has 8 discs:http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERTRAPP-4-6-PACK-DISK-SET-/140567714183?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20ba7d1987&vxp=mtr

Here is the complete muffler kit that claims it is 4' discs.....they actually measure about 3.25" bolt circle and a bit less than 3-3/4" OD on mine.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERTRAPP-MEGAPHONE-MUFFLER-CHR-SUZUKI-650-SAVAGE-/230792370469?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35bc4c1925&vxp=mtr

If you search around you may be able to find a seller that can send you all the parts and combine shipping. Below is a picture of what the core will look like when taken out. This one was taken out to put new fiberglass packing on.....from the looks of yours it is probably ready to have the fiberglass replaced as well:

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by Dave on 06/13/12 at 05:56:19

Here is the link to the Supertrapp instruction sheet with part numbers for the muffler you have.
http://www.supertrapp.com/images/pdfs/003-5647.pdf

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by Dave on 06/14/12 at 05:04:22

I stopped by the Home Depot and got 10-24x1.5" stainless allen head screws for $ 1.21 in a 2 pack. You can get all 6 screws for less than 4 bucks.....and they are plenty long enough for about 10 discs.

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by bill67 on 06/14/12 at 05:20:12

Has anyone seen a dyno report on that muffler on and S40.

Title: Re: New owner, exhaust questions
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/14/12 at 05:52:56

72797C7C2627100 wrote:

Has anyone seen a dyno report on that muffler on and S40.

Being tunable, given that the owner is a capable tuner, & has access to a dyno, the TRapp should be the best choice for max power out of any bike.
A good & determined tuner with access to a dyno could tune a bike to give the best power or for a given MPG out.
Its not necessary to make them super free flowing to use them to achieve a desired goal,.Few people want to use them for anything other than power, tho,