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Title: Found an Idea. Post by Wolfman on 05/30/12 at 21:03:28 Found an idea while on a short head clearing ride to town today. Funny how a 5 mile ride turns into 60+....lol Thinking about the S-I-L and the new riders ive seen showing up i got to thinking. Some of you old codgers thats older then dirt and smell funny that have been riding for many years need to toss out some riding tips/tutorials. Diagrams would be nice to...lol No techno speak or lawyereze, plain english...lol Things like how to ride into and out of the curves. Speed up slow down hug the white line or mid-point in the road entering the curve etc. Down shifting rolling on or off the throttle etc. Yeah you can look a lot up like for track riding but i thought actual street experience with the chance to ask questions might help some new riders. Also what NOT to do like locking the brakes up, standing the bike up etc. Riding in town, out in the farmlands during harvest season. Deer, coons, dillo avoidance and what to do if you CAN'T avoid em. Just pretend your sitting around the campfire teaching a bunch of newbies or your kid how to stay healthy. Lot of new guys don't know what to ask or are to shy to ask those that have been riding for 10 or 15 years. I believe riding is a continuous learning curve, you never know it all. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Starlifter on 05/30/12 at 21:20:46 Okay, I'll start 'TARGET FIXATION" 'Fixating' on something means not being able to take your attention (your eyes, for example) away from it. In the case of riding motorcycles, for example, this leads to the phenomena wherein our motorcycles tend to go in the direction we are looking....so that if you see a pothole in the street ahead of you and you don't take your eyes off it, you are likely to hit it. :o Saying "don't fixate" is okay, but once it starts, you need a positive technique to get yourself out in one piece. So once you are in trouble, use target fixation to save your skin. Don't look at the oncoming truck/tree/pothole; figure out where you would rather be and fixate on that instead. ;) |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Serowbot on 05/30/12 at 23:27:54 Curves,... brake hard, slow in, accelerate through,.. exit on throttle... It's hard to get in trouble, if you are slow in... and you'll be faster than you think... the reward comes on the exit. You'll exit with an advantage over the guy that tried to take the corner too fast... ... but,.. if, on occasion, you feel yer' kester tighten... mid curve... don't brake... lean your body into the curve,... not the bike, just your body... the bike will come up a bit, and you will make it through...(practice this.. and you'll gain confidence in it)... ... unless you went in way too fast... in which case, braking won't save it either... best chance is lean in, and follow through... (this will also have your body in position to slide, instead of bounce if you do go down)... (lesson one in crashing... scuff off speed before you stop)... Then re-evaluate your attitude... and clean yer' shorts... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by bess227 on 05/31/12 at 07:05:38 Wolf, Serow and Star, Thank you. I will be the first to admit. The reason I dropped my bike and put a "shanker" in my leg the first morning was nothing more than 48 year old "man pride". I should have taken an MSF course, or better yet, gotten the guy I work with that has over 150k miles in the saddle to go with me and spend 30 minutes going over the basics again before riding at any speed over 1st gear. My learning curve has been quick. I finally broke down and asked him to take me thru some curves here around home (mountains of NC). He was a former MSF instructor. 20 minutes with him thru the curves, stopping occasionally to ask questions and get advice made me a 100% better rider than I would be now without it. So here is a question. After reading the last couple posts about some of our brothers getting broken up at intersections (Godspeed on healing to them) is there any other advice other than, lane position, covering the levers, head on a swivel? Thanks again, everyone on this forum has been so helpful with all my questions. I appreciate it. Scott |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/12 at 07:34:02 When I see someone who is gonna be in position to turn left across me when I get to an intersection coming, I watch their head & see if theyre looking left or slowing & I flip my Pass switch ( only works if on low beam) & move side to side in my lane, ( some give no clues, theyre daydreaming along & realize they need to turn at the last second, sometimes a downshift & full throttle is better than brakes,, depends on the situation, Most dangerous location? At the front of a line of cars, because theyll try to hustle across so they dont have to wait, or the end of a line of cars, cuz youre little & theyre looking for "the last CAR" & theyll run over you.. At th front of a line, depending on situation, may add GUn It to lite flashing & weaving, at the end, scoot rite & tuck in behind the last car so they cant hit you if they come across,,NOT etched in stone, variables abound.. Envision situations & practice your response layin in bed. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Savage_Rob on 05/31/12 at 08:23:21 I'm not an old codger yet but I'll add a couple of my favorites. 1) Practice emergency stops regularly. Find a vacant parking lot and practice them over and over to reduce your time and distance. 2) Evaluate "what ifs" constantly. While riding, systematically evaluate surrounding traffic and conditions and think about potential problems and escape scenarios. The more you evaluate, the more you've mentally prepared, and the quicker you are to react to any you pre-evaluated. There are always some you won't anticipate. However, this mental game also helps to keep you alert instead of just skylarking. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/12 at 08:43:34 & pay attention to changing road conditions. Not all dry pavement offers the same traction. Be aware that the first few minutes of rain lifts oils & the road is slicker than after 30 minutes of good rain, When Im driving & it starts to rain, I hit the brakes & feel how the car acts on the wet road.. I dont recommend that on a bike, |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Drifter on 05/31/12 at 08:58:18 Always pay attention.......one other thing always pay attention!!! Stay out of the center of lanes at signals and stop signs lots of leaky fords have been there....oil on bike tires equals slick...... Keep your thumb on the high beam switch and flash people that show ANY indication of pulling out in front of you...this tip works!!! Check your tire pressures at least once per week most tires leak. ALWAYS WEAR A HELMENT......Looking cool in a casket is not cool !! Know your limitations, every ones skill level is different. T shirts shorts and flip flops...turn you into hamburger if you go down! If you ride long enough you WILL eventully, Besides people that ride like this are stupid and look that way!!! Look for sand dirt holes debris wet leaves really slick as well as the paint on the roads even dry its slick. Check your mirrors at traffic lights some people get hit from behind be prepared to move quickly! Dont ride drunk, you are not as good as you think!!!! All of these things i have experienced or seen! One last thing ALWAYS pay attention to everything around you! |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/12 at 09:05:30 & theres a reason they call the next season Fall,,Leaves on leaves in a turn = fall,,& those blasted sweet gum balls in the mix may as well be marbles,, & if theyre wet, well,, the water may as well be oil, |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Paraquat on 05/31/12 at 09:34:49 Assume everyone is a brain dead idiot (not much of a stretch). Imagine how you could react to the stupidest thing they could possibly do (they will probably do it). --Steve |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by mpescatori on 05/31/12 at 10:37:22 "So here is a question. After reading the last couple posts about some of our brothers getting broken up at intersections (Godspeed on healing to them) is there any other advice other than, lane position, covering the levers, head on a swivel? " When riding, do NOT ride looking through your own visor or windshield... Learn to ride looking through the rear window and windscreen of the car in front of you ! 8-) Ride according to what that driver sees ! Have you ever cussed at the cage that swerved into the middle of the road just as you were preparing to overtake? >:( You never noticed the bicycle rider in front, or the little boy chasing his basketball down the driveway, did you ? :-X THAT'S why the cage swerved ! Also... In the rain, lane paint may become very slippery, avoid it like they were made of wet glass... In the rain, cars will raise a LOT of water when splashing their way through puddles - learn to ride with zero vision for a second or two, i.e. don't panic and slam the brakes, just ride on like nothing happened... ride through the splash and you'll be still riding as you come out the other side ;) WET but still ridin'... Personally, I always leave a distance between myself and the rider in front, unless I have to overtake; enough distance to avoid him if he slams the brakes or does something stupid... GOOD helmets have a quick-release chin strap; learn to release it with one hand only, learning from both hands (your thumbs will be on the opposide side of the strap...) BETTER helmets have a red tab you can yank to release in an emergency. BEST helmets not only have all the above, but your chin won't rub into the chin piece, your ears aren't pressed shut, your forehead is completely protected and the back of your neck is also protected. Rule of thumb is "no drafts anywhere!" And... never ever challenge superscooter riders, they will outrace you in the straight, then slow down like old ladies into the bends... :P 8-) Ride well, ride safe ! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Wolfman on 05/31/12 at 11:49:10 Bess227, ive only been back on a street bike for 27 months(10,000 miles so far), used to ride the snot out of dirt bikes many years ago. As a beginner heres a couple of tips thats helped me. When riding alongside in traffic keep a wary eye on their front wheel. Thats the first indication of them comeing across into your lane. Don't expect a headcheck or a signal. STAY OUT OF BLIND SPOTS! That means don't just pull up beside them but pull slightly 'AHEAD' of the driver side window. At intersections check and check again before you ride through. Even if your first in line and the lights switched, WATCH for that last idjit thats in a hurry and blows through just as or after the lights changed! Be very careful if your city/state allows right turns on reds. Most folks don't stop, they just glance left and go through the turn. The traffic to their left can and will block their view of you. Stops of any kind. Clutch in, first gear, right foot on the brake, right hand on the throttle, one eye on the rear view mirror untill the car behind you comes to a complete stop. Look for an escape route around the car(s) in front of you when you come to a stop. It may be between the cars, into the road ditch or even into the on comeing lane IF theres no heavy traffic. Be READY to vacate your space and have a route planned. ALWAYS! I usualy angle the bike 'slightly' towards my expected escape route at lights. I believe this gives me a slightly wider profile for that soccer mom on the cell phone running up my arse to notice I ride centered or in the left side of my lane. This gives me optimum maneuverability(room to evade) to the right OR left if someone encroaches on my space. OWN your lane. I believe it also makes me more visible then riding on the right side of my lane. Riding in the country when topping hills i usualy let off the throttle a bit. Especially if theres a house or farm on top of the hill. Its a blind spot and you never know whats comeing out. Tractors pulling hay equipment or wagons don't move real fast. Works good in town to. Some dairies run cattle across the road to milk each day to. Cows don't leave a clean trail and its slippery as chit...literally...lol 2 second following rule is good, 3 seconds is better. But expect some yahoo to try and slip into the space. They will even try to edge into your safety zone at lights(our room to evade behind the car in front). Do NOT expect them to see you. Even if you've made eye contact! Ride like your invisible and ride defensively at ALL times. Ive had em turn and look out the driver side window right at me beside them then try to push me into on comeing traffic! Expect the unexpected. Ride at your comfort level, within your skill and ability level. Don't worry a bit about what anyone else is doing if riding with others. And when you think you got it all mastered, think again. Get complacent and your putting yourself at risk. Right about the time you think you got it all down pat is about the time you screw up and go down. Just ask these guys n gals. I was'nt going to post to the thread and here ive run off at the mouth...lol 27 months riding year round and i STILL consider myself a beginner bess. Oh yeah. If you ride in the winter like i do keep an eye on the temps. I don't ride below about 35 degrees. Bikes n ice don't mix...lol |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by 2stroketim on 05/31/12 at 11:55:51 Wolfman - Print these out and give them to your SIL - - - Then, sing BOTH of you up for the Basic MSF Course at your local Community College..... It'll be the best 80-90 bucks you can spend in your situation. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Drifter on 05/31/12 at 13:31:20 Good advice all, i even learned something after 41 years being in the wind. I agree take an advanced class if you cant pass you dont belong on the road and give a copy of this post to the students! An idea for the mods, maybe give this thread a new name No offence Wolfman..i think its great and put it some where that will keep it around awhile for oldsters and noobs to read, maybe it will save a life! :) |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Starlifter on 05/31/12 at 14:11:46 An excellent idea Drifter! ************************************************ Counter Steering At very slow speeds we steer a motorcycle by turning the handlebar in the direction we wish to go. We can only do that at speeds of less than about 6 MPH. At any higher speed we do the exact opposite, (whether we realize it or not.) For example, assuming we want to turn to the right, we actually TRY to turn the handlebar left. This results in the front wheel leaning to the right and, as a result of the lean of the wheel, athe bike turns to the right. This is counter-steering. *Always keep in mind that you are invisible to 90% of drivers...the other 10% are out to get you. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Wolfman on 05/31/12 at 14:18:41 I got no problem with the name being changed. Had rather hoped it would turn into a good info thread that would be kept around for the newbies. Still waiting on a more detailed description from one of the old timers on corner carving though. Seems this bike just kinda brings out the love of the twisties in people...lol I don't feel qualified to describe it. Vers, Bot, Lancer, Old feller?? Come on Dragon Boys. Reactions to.... Punctures Skids small animals large animals Gravel roads Emergency Braking(panic stops) |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Savage_Rob on 05/31/12 at 14:43:09 0C2B3E2D3336392B3A2D5F0 wrote:
Oh, okay... I always thought 100% of them were out to kill me but only 10% could see me! |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by 360k+ on 05/31/12 at 16:48:41 Ride like you're invisible, and learn to anticipate potential accidents BEFORE they become reality. Better to be late than not arrive at all, or in a different destination you had not planned for. If you're a noob and riding doesn't feel right or comfortable, then consider finding another pastime or getting a small dirt bike to practice in the dirt. Dirt bike riding can teach you valuable handling skills that can be carried to the street, and it doesn't hurt as much to fall down. In fact, there are riders who feel that everyone should be a reasonably practiced dirt bike rider BEFORE riding on the street. Riding is somewhat a learned process, but like many other activities there are some folks who will never quite "get it", whereas others have an innate ability to understand the physics involved with traction, coordinated turns, etc. In many ways riding is much like flying, but in only two dimensions. When riding a multilane hwy in traffic make sure the car beside you knows you're there. I've had cars change into my lane (with me already in it) when the driver was no more than a few feet from me! Look for the driver's quick head glance at the left rear view mirror then begin to think about options (horn, speed up, slow down, boot thru driver side window, etc). When riding in the mountains in bushy or heavily treed areas on a multilane hwy (i.e., 2 up 2 down), ride as close to center of the road as possible. If something jumps out of the bushes (deer, bear, Sasquatch) you want to have as many options as possible. During abrupt stops, watch the car behind you as much as your own safety margin in front. Never assume he can stop as quickly as you. I have had to ease up on the brake on occasion to accommodate the car following me, and a few times even get up alongside the car in front so I didn't become a car sandwich. Also in those situations pump the brake a few times blinking your stop light to get the following car's attention that you are stopping. When realizing you've gone into a corner too hot, remember that traction comes from one bank account and one only! You can choose to use it in braking, or turning, or applying partial to both, but the total amount available all comes from the same source. In other words, once you begin applying brakes, there is less traction available for turning and vice versa. Note, however, you can generally lean and turn far sharper than most riders might think before losing traction. Take an MSF course or two and listen to the wisdom. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Serowbot on 05/31/12 at 17:04:45 625A595358545B350 wrote:
Cr@p my pants, mostly... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by bess227 on 05/31/12 at 18:33:20 Really good stuff here guys. Keep it coming. I realized what a resource I had in my coworker once I gave up the pride thing and just asked. Humble pie never was one of my favorites, but it sure tastes better than asphalt. Definitely taking the MSF course, will be later this month hopefully. So you know, a lot of here really pay attention to you guys with all the saddle time, so please don't consider anything you have to offer "less" important even if simple and fundamental to you. We all want to be safe. Reading over a thread like this can't possibly hurt anyone with any level of experience. Reminders are good. Thanks again. Scott |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/12 at 21:01:07 Found an Idea,, I really thot this thread was gonna be about waking up from being knocked out. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Wolfman on 06/01/12 at 00:57:36 I do a LOT of gravel riding. Don't like it but i got over a mile to just get to the blacktop. Not the best road either. On gravel the front brake is NOT your friend. The rear brake is. That and engine brakeing. Ride slow and brake easy with the rear brake. Lock that front brake up and you lose traction/control. Front wheel tends to go in the least expected direction REAL FAST. Usually sideways which puts YOU eating gravel. The rear will 'usually' slide in the direction of travel if you get on it to hard. Brake easy and brake early. Let off the throttle easily and let the engine slow you down slowly. Keep your speed down around 15-20 mph. Drive the packed/bare tire lanes. Stay OUT of the loose stuff if at all possible. Small animals. Power over them. Smalls cats, dogs, squirrels etc hit the gas slightly just beore you hit them and keep the bars straight. Try to panic stop and you may well eat it as well as hitting the animal anyway. Large animals like deer, very large dogs, pigs, sheep etc you need to avoid. You see em early enough slow down and give em the road. They have a bad tendency to go right where you try to go around them. They WILL put you down. Watch low spots in the road, especially around creeks/rivers etc. Deer, coons and others love to cross at these spots. Watch for the eyeshine, not the whole animal. Side note: Avoid armadillos at all costs. They would be one he!! of a speed bump. They also have a real BAD tendency to jump straight up just before you hit them. Which would put them bouncing off your headlight and then up into your chest or faceplate. Bad news. Their faster then they look to. Scare me more then deer...lol Another thing to avoid is Buzzards on roadkill. Come up on them and they will usually stay there until your almost on them. Their big and will usually try to occupy the same space as you. They WILL take you down. Besides that if you do manage to go under them they will cr@p all over you. Defense mechanism when their scared. And they smell REALLY REALLY BAD!...lol |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by 2stroketim on 06/01/12 at 10:56:24 7D45464C474B442A0 wrote:
I would also like to add: Stay in 1st gear at the lights, ready to take off. Always leave enough space between yourself and the car in front of you, so that if needed, you can dump the clutch and get out of the way. Cagers dont see you. I never go into neutral at a light...getting rear-ended on a MC sucks. Optional: I ride with 1 or 2 fingers on the front brake and clutch at all times. I refuse to do the "whole hand/4 finger clutch" move. In a time when you are dealing with split seconds, it helps. Some agree, some disagree - but I know what works for me. - - Field of view. Look as far ahead as you can, constantly scanning the road. - - Above all - - -KNOW YOUR LIMITS AND RIDE WITHIN THEM. Think you're ready for the dragon? Most think they are. Many are not. You can see some of their broken bike pieces at the shrine. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by bess227 on 06/01/12 at 11:53:07 All these tips are good things to know. On the advice of some here, I bought the "Proficient Motorcycling" book and must admit it is worth the 13.00 I spent on it. (Ebook price) For a newb, some really great tips and things to think about. I am about halfway thru, and already have learned several things. A lot of really good tips on curves and setup and distance. Not rocket science, but great things to have on your mind while riding both in the country and in traffic. I was really surprised at a diagram shown from results taken after a "crash survey" that showed nearly 39% of all damage to helmets/faces happened to the lower jawbone area. Really making me consider going to full face from the 3/4 I have now. I know it's preference, and everyone has a right to what they want. Author doesn't try to convince anyone to go either way, just giving the facts. That number really surprised me. Not much skin on a man's jaw. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Starlifter on 06/01/12 at 19:28:16 "On the advice of some here, I bought the "Proficient Motorcycling" book and must admit it is worth the 13.00 I spent on it. (Ebook price)" In my opionion this is the best book ever written on motorcycling. I have read both volumns cover to cover twice. There is an amazing amount of good information in these two books. There is a Vol.2 of this two book set. Be sure to pick that one up also, you won't regret it. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Wolfman on 06/02/12 at 00:39:06 This diagram? http://dontai.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/helmetcrashdiagram.gif Lot of info from the Hurt Report here. http://dontai.com/wp/2010/05/20/motorcycle-helmet-impact-zones/ |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/02/12 at 06:24:31 Approximately three-fourths of these motorcycle accidents involved collision with another vehicle, which was most usually a passenger automobile. In the multiple vehicle accidents, the driver of the other vehicle violated the motorcycle right-of-way and caused the accident in two-thirds of those accidents. So, if we look at 100 accidents, 75 include a car, & of those accidents 2/3rds are caused by the car driver, Soo,, 50 of 100 crashes, or HALF,, Half of all ( injury) bike crashes are caused by a driver unaware of the bike, & this is an old report, not exactly pre-historic, but certainly Pre-Texting. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by bess227 on 06/02/12 at 07:51:06 Wolf....... that is the one. that one really got me to thinking. and Justin you are correct........the whole texting thing and really phones in general are one of our biggest nemesis'. if i roll up on a teenage girl talking on the phone my spidey senses go off everywhere and i look for some way to get completely away from her. never thought i would be afraid of a 110 lb teenage girl........but i admit it....petrifies me. Star.......i got volume 2........and i agree.......some great stuff in this book, really enjoying and trying to soak up the info. thanks for the recommend. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Wolfman on 06/02/12 at 11:52:50 Id LOVE to see cell phone use outlawed in a moving vehicle! They recently wanted to try to do that here in MO. But the state patrol in particular said it was a waste of time. They likened cell phone use to listening to the radio or listening to a passenger or talking to the passenger etc??? ::) They need to take some of these nay sayers and put em the pillion seat of an unmarked bike(no police bikes) and let em ride through traffic for a day or two. Main drags, intersections etc. You'd see a law come on the books so fast it would make your head spin. I see em all the time. Seems like 1 in 4 or 5 have a cell phone glued to their face. And you can usually tell by the looks on their faces their minds somewhere else. Law would be worth it just for the teenagers it would save out driving let alone the number of US it would keep from grief. Another safety point to consider is avoid rush hour traffic if at all possible. You know how rude and stupid people get when your in a cage. It's WORSE when your on a bike. Think BULLY! Your little, their big and tired and/or in a bad mood. Their GOING to make you move for them. Toss in cell phones and you'll understand why most riders keep to the back roads/side streets early morning, lunch and afternoon. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Starlifter on 06/02/12 at 22:08:31 Side Stand AKA Kick stand You should never simply kick the stand down at your destination and climb off your bike without visually checking that it is extended all the way down and 'locked' into place. (I learned this one the hard way.) You should never rely on the side stand to support your bike by itself unless you are parked on a solid surface. While sand and grassy areas are obviously not 'solid', neither is asphalt when the temperature exceeds 90 degrees. Placing a 'foot' like a piece of board or even a crushed soda can under the side stand tip is usually all that is required to keep your stand from punching a hole under it and sending your bike onto its left side. You should never leave your bike unattended in neutral gear with the side stand down if you are parked facing down (OR up) a hill. Putting the bike in gear will 'lock' the rear wheel and your bike will still be standing when you return to it. Being 'in-gear' is the closest thing on your scoot to having a parking brake! |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/04/12 at 08:55:16 Passengers should be able to use the phone. We already have laws for negligent acts. If a driver causes an accident AND their phone is being used at the time of the crash AND theyre the only one in the car, THEN it can be shown they were being negligent, |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Serowbot on 06/04/12 at 09:12:30 Screw passengers,... I'd make cell-phones inoperable if movement over 10mph is detected. (other than 911)...(fines automatic, added to your bill)... Just like,... no open alcohol containers in a car... no active cell-phones... Giving some moron a $200 fine, after I'm splayed out in the road, don't make me feel any better... I've been there... :-?... Driving is a privilege, not a right... |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/04/12 at 20:19:29 I suspect negligent homicide is more that $200.00.. I wish I could remember the name of what you propose, |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Starlifter on 06/04/12 at 21:16:46 Texing while driving should be a felony. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/04/12 at 21:47:01 4D6A7F6C7277786A7B6C1E0 wrote:
Nope,, say youre way out in the nowheres & thers no one to be seen in any diraction, who can you hurt? Only yourself, why is that a felony>? IF youre texting AND you cause a wreck and Hurt Someone, then ytour butt is in trouble, |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Wolfman on 06/05/12 at 01:31:59 The guy on a bike you sideswipe on the narrow dirt road way out in the toolies, when you top the hill in the middle of the road doing 50. Yacking on a cell phone. THATS who you hurt! Then theres the possibility of folks pulling out of driveways and side roads you don't see cause you got your mug looking at your phone and not the road. Ought to be a jammer in every car blocks the signal if your moving more then 10 mph. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by mpescatori on 06/05/12 at 01:42:18 2D3B2C31293C312A5E0 wrote:
I disagree here. 1) Why shouldn't a car passenger be allowed to use the phone ? 2) Who are you going to call when the road-rabid pickup driver starts playing "DUEL" with your economy car for a matter of peanuts ? 3) Why aren't you blasting smokers who flick their lit butts into your face as you ride by ? Are you a smoker ? ::) |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/05/12 at 22:59:15 Driving is a privilege, not a right... So youve been told till you accepted it. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Paraquat on 06/06/12 at 06:28:41 66415447595C53415047350 wrote:
Heh. They gave us little plastic disks at my motorcycle class graduation. I thought it was a cup holder for my beer. Turns out it's for putting on the asphalt so the kick stand doesn't sink in. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Starlifter on 06/06/12 at 21:00:13 Yes it's called a foot. You can use a crushed beer can in a pinch. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Sam7.62 on 06/10/12 at 17:34:37 To whoever suggested hitting the flash to pass at an intersection thank you!! Saved my tushy today. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/10/12 at 17:42:48 Youre very welcome,, I found it useful, along with swerving back & forth IN my lane to get people to see me, |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Sam7.62 on 06/10/12 at 18:10:07 I did that as well, funny enough the lady was on a cell phone. That you again. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/10/12 at 18:52:40 Ive been known to break mirrors on cars whose driver has near killt me, Old man pulled out of a parking lot & came out 2 lanes, taking mine, on a snow covered road. I was able to move left into the 3rd lane & stay up, aiming to just not hit the little pickup. As I went by, I slapped the mirror & broke it. He pulled next to me at the light, hollerin,, & I quickly & VERY forcefully explained to him how lucky he was to have only a broken mirror,,& BTW, I had no idea the driver was old, or even a man, when I slapped it, I was just trying to not get hurt & the opportunity to "Strike Back" presented itself, so I did. Ill bet he was more aware of bikes after that.. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Savage_Rob on 06/12/12 at 06:56:49 706F696E73744575457D6F63281A0 wrote:
Nope,, say youre way out in the nowheres & thers no one to be seen in any diraction, who can you hurt? Only yourself, why is that a felony>? IF youre texting AND you cause a wreck and Hurt Someone, then ytour butt is in trouble, [/quote] The main problem with that is that it's like trying to train a cat to sleep in one spot on Tuesdays but to do it in another spot for the remainder of the week; lack of comprehension in the target audience. The "common sense" approach just doesn't work with much of the seething masses. While your definition might be sufficient to convict an offender if caught, it's not enough to prevent one because he/she just didn't understand where the line between "okay for me to do here" and "not okay for me to do here" was. I prefer to say pull over to the shoulder if you need to read or write a text. Just my opinion. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Savage_Rob on 06/12/12 at 06:58:07 40727E243D2521130 wrote:
Yeah, that is a good idea. I'm pretty sure my '98 doesn't have that though... just the plain old high beam or low beam switch. I used a headlight modulator for a while until I found it to be a power vampire that was draining my battery. Worked fine for about five years and then went awry. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Serowbot on 06/12/12 at 08:41:21 Sometimes you flash people, and they think you're signalling them to go... Watch for it...:-?... |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by RidgeRunner13 on 06/12/12 at 10:28:46 382E39243C29243F4B0 wrote:
+1 Had this happen twice- gave up flashing-just weave like I might fall down- usually works for tail gaters, too. :o 8-) |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by WD on 06/12/12 at 21:20:27 Learn how to stop with ONLY your rear brake. It is neither as difficult or as scary as many riders (especially instructors) tell you it is. One day your front brake is going to fail. Air bubble, old brake fluid because you were too lazy to change it when it started getting dark, dirty caliper piston, popped caliper seal... It happens. Think back to driving a pre-ABS four wheeled vehicle. Remember how to pump your brakes? Same thing. And downshifting is cheating. You CAN ride on snow or ice. You may HAVE to one day. Decrease your tire pressure, slow down and do not engine brake. Go easy on the service brakes. Line your clothes with as many free publications as you can find, great wind barrier. Buy some trash bags and cheap duct tape. Goes over your clothes. You'll still be cold but you won't be covered in frozen water that melts and makes you colder. I've ridden home 36 miles in 5*F, not fun but I made it in one piece, so did my bike. Buy a tool bag and some REAL tools. Throw the factory kit away except the plug socket. Carry an extra sparkplug (pre-gapped). Carry a cable splicing kit. Carry a GOOD mini flashlight and some spare batteries. Good does NOT mean a harbor freight LED unit... Carry a set of spare bulbs. Oil leaks are normal. Air leaks are normal. Needing to adjust your clutch lever and rear brake is normal. Greasing your levers is not only normal, it is necessary for smooth operation. Lube your cables (don't use WD40, it dries sticky). Lube your brake shoe pivots. Adjust the bike to fit YOU. Change the bars and/or seat if need be. Get forward controls or floorboards (you'll need to make mounts). Reposition the shifter to fit your boot toe (and ride in steel toed boots, trust me on this one, rocks hurt). Get more comfortable grips. Get wide levers if you need them, cable clutch early Marauder parts fit. Watch the old guys with long gray beards full of heavy weight engine oil. If they can't walk right they have been riding for a long time. Watch how they ride. Believe it or not, they pre-trip the bike before EVERY start, even if they only stopped long enough to gas up. Once you learn your machine a pre-trip is a quick visual scan from the seat. Biggest tip, come ride with me. I have absolutely no problem telling you how you are messing up and how to correct it. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by mpescatori on 06/13/12 at 00:49:01 4F5C180 wrote:
Personally, I carry a "head mounted unit", one of those thingies you wear around your forehead; it keeps your hands free and it shines where you're looking. Quote:
I need to greas my drum pivots, as the rear brake tends to stick, but... do I need to disassemble the rear wheel ? Quote:
I'd love riding with you (although you sound a bit line those 1960 PanAm commercials... ;D) Thanks :) |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/13/12 at 04:30:45 I need to greas my drum pivots, as the rear brake tends to stick, but... do I need to disassemble the rear wheel ? Yea,, gotta have the brakes in your hand. Sure would be good to need a tire.. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by bess227 on 06/13/12 at 06:30:18 "Biggest tip, come ride with me. I have absolutely no problem telling you how you are messing up and how to correct it." WD.......I am going to look up Rosemark and see how far you are from me in Wilkesboro. I think a couple hours riding with you would be a good experience on several levels. I like someone that is straight forward. Thanks for all the info in the post. I come from a long line of professional duct tape junkies. ;) Safe ridin. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by bess227 on 06/13/12 at 06:34:37 WD. Rosemark Tn should be Rosemark, almost in Arkansas, Tn......bummer. was hoping you were closer to the NC side. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by WD on 06/13/12 at 12:31:48 I'm all of 20 miles east of the MS River. |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by Serowbot on 06/13/12 at 16:03:50 584550465654415A475C350 wrote:
3) Why aren't you blasting smokers who flick their lit butts into your face as you ride by ? Are you a smoker ? ::) Quote:
I think it's the only way it will stop... Cell phones are heroin for geekophiles and blabbermouths... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Found an Idea. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/13/12 at 17:37:15 I think the answer is to see if the driver was using the phone & If the Driver Caused the wreck,, only then does it matter,,& IF the driver was texting or on the phone & caused a crash, then they Go To JAY ULL... that will stop it, |
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