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Message started by BobWd on 05/24/12 at 09:18:12

Title: Stock Savage Seats
Post by BobWd on 05/24/12 at 09:18:12

Are there certain stock seats that are more comfortable than others? I have an '04 and have already done the front raising mod but, if I am on the bike for more than 30 minutes, my butt starts going numb. I have been trying to find out about the sportster seats, which ones will fit, but haven't received any replies. Also, my wife won't ride with me because the back seat is uncomfortable to her. :-/ :-/

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by Serowbot on 05/24/12 at 09:20:59


5578754073170 wrote:
Also, my wife won't ride with me because the back seat is uncomfortable to her. :-/ :-/

...and that's a bad thing?... :-?...

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by Pine on 05/24/12 at 09:41:59

I am giving up on the seats.. I have found a man that normally repairs boat seats to completely redo mine.. he is a formmer bike rider.. and could see the problem pretty quick.

Expected cost for memory foam, and both seats to be covered ~$100.

Pics when I get it back.

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by Paraquat on 05/24/12 at 10:59:51


5E485F425A4F42592D0 wrote:
[quote author=5578754073170 link=1337876293/0#0 date=1337876292]Also, my wife won't ride with me because the back seat is uncomfortable to her. :-/ :-/

...and that's a bad thing?... :-?...[/quote]

I'd rather see pics of the wife before the seat.


--Steve

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by bess227 on 05/24/12 at 12:35:10

I had the same problem on my 07 S40. Some of mine was due to my height (6'1), and I needed some more "reach" to the seat.

The problem was where the pillion starts. It needed to be moved back a couple of inches, at least smoothed out.

I bought a Royal Riding gel seat pad, but couldn't get it in the right spot, just seemed to give me less room. I liked the material, but still just not right.

I took the seat off, removed most of the cover.

Electric carving knife and a fine grit sanding disc on my dremel. Cut away the harshness of the pillion down to the pan. Shaped the gel seat pad to fit the original seat design, cut out a "tailbone tunnel" in the gel seat.

Took a memory foam pillow and cut it to 1 inch thickness (using the electric knife) , covered the original seat and the gel material with the memory foam.  (Made a much more smooth and finished look under the cover)

Original cover went back on it (after some adjusting on the memory foam thickness) and tacked it back with a normal T50 Elite arrow stapler and 1/4 in staples.

Looks good,  feels so much better. Not a professional job, but i have about 70.00 bucks in materials and my time. I thought if I made a real mess I would get a pro to do it........and still may use that option, but for those willing to try stuff, it was kind of fun to attempt. It is definitely an improvement.  Warning though......sanding down the closed cell foam makes a MESS.

Safe ridin.

Scott


Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by BobWd on 05/24/12 at 15:10:07

Thanks Scott. I was given a seat off of a Honda Shadow but it is way to big to fit this bike. It was very comfortable but I just couldn't figure out how to make it fit. I have seen posts about someone using a sportster seat but they didn't include what year bike the seat came off of. My brother-in-law rides a harley, and has plenty of friends who do also, so I may check with him when I go for a visit this summer; and of course I'm going to trailer my bike so I can ride with him. ;D

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by bill67 on 05/24/12 at 15:36:33

Is there any way you can put that seat on the S40 base even by cutting it down some.

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by Greg on 05/24/12 at 15:46:05

I had the silly idea of taking the pan off of the Savage seat and attaching it to the pan of whatever seat so the mounting points would be there. I haven't tried it yet, so I don't know if it would work.

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by teabowl13 on 05/24/12 at 15:56:26

What you might try, if you like the Shadow seat, is take the cover and padding of of the sock seat you have, then take the foam and cover off of the Shadow seat, and try to re-shape the bottom of the shadow seat foam to see if you can get that onto the Savage seat pan; probably be able to use the Shadow seat cover and staple it over.
Chances are that seat is longer too, as well as wider. Might take some surgery, but worth a look.

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by Realbtl on 05/24/12 at 16:38:42

I'm not too fond of the stock seat either but I'll wait for the snow to get here before taking it to my friend the upholsterer.  Priorities.

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by arteacher on 05/24/12 at 16:54:19

Save up your pennies and buy a Corbin and be done with it. Your wife will like it too. ;)

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by rfw2003 on 05/24/12 at 20:27:44

The Leather Corbin seat really isn't a bad price.  Total cost for me shipped was $314 and they are pretty through in asking questions such as height, weight, and inseam so they can shape the seat and pad the seat correctly.  I haven't received mine yet as they just shipped it out today but then again I just ordered it a few days ago, so turn around time is great as well.

R.F.

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by SALB on 05/24/12 at 20:57:16


4C47474E424D4C5657230 wrote:
Save up your pennies and buy a Corbin and be done with it. Your wife will like it too. ;)


A Corbin seat is near the top of my short wish list.  The types of materials and color combos is boggling! :)

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by babyhog on 05/25/12 at 05:31:44

I transferred a Mustang seat to my stock seat pan.  Added a Saddleman raw gel pad.  Much more comfortable and more the looks I was going for.  I figured trying anything was better than nothing!

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by bess227 on 05/25/12 at 06:00:01


6E7A6B2E2C2C2F1C0 wrote:
The Leather Corbin seat really isn't a bad price.  Total cost for me shipped was $314 and they are pretty through in asking questions such as height, weight, and inseam so they can shape the seat and pad the seat correctly.  I haven't received mine yet as they just shipped it out today but then again I just ordered it a few days ago, so turn around time is great as well.

R.F.

Did you order it straight from the Corbin site?   I would love to know how that works out after you have several miles in that new seat. I have looked at them a couple of times.  That is why I did the mod to my stock seat.

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by bess227 on 05/25/12 at 06:02:23


4A7B7F7C7169722F2D1E0 wrote:
What you might try, if you like the Shadow seat, is take the cover and padding of of the sock seat you have, then take the foam and cover off of the Shadow seat, and try to re-shape the bottom of the shadow seat foam to see if you can get that onto the Savage seat pan; probably be able to use the Shadow seat cover and staple it over.
Chances are that seat is longer too, as well as wider. Might take some surgery, but worth a look.


I had not thought about this.......very interesting idea.  most of the molding and shaping would be at the bottom, and the cover from the new seat should have enough extra material to get staples in.  Good thinkin Teabowl.

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by arteacher on 05/25/12 at 06:50:39


74736565242421160 wrote:
[quote author=6E7A6B2E2C2C2F1C0 link=1337876293/0#11 date=1337916464]The Leather Corbin seat really isn't a bad price.  Total cost for me shipped was $314 and they are pretty through in asking questions such as height, weight, and inseam so they can shape the seat and pad the seat correctly.  I haven't received mine yet as they just shipped it out today but then again I just ordered it a few days ago, so turn around time is great as well.

R.F.

Did you order it straight from the Corbin site?   I would love to know how that works out after you have several miles in that new seat. I have looked at them a couple of times.  That is why I did the mod to my stock seat. [/quote]
They actually mold themselves to your posterior. Takes about 1000 mi for the whole molding process. They are far more comfortable than stock right out of the box. The first day I rode mine I had my wallet in it's usual place in my left hip pocket, and rode for an hour without stopping. My left buttock got sore. After I moved the wallet to my coat pocket I rode for another hour with no problem, then 2 hrs back home with a nice cumfy bum.
The pillion is about 2" wider than stock, and flat, not rounded as the stock pillion is. I have it on good authority that the pillion is much more comfy too.
The driver's seat has more lower back support, and you don't feel like your sliding forward during hard braking, or back during hard acceleration.
It looks good too- follows the line of the tank.
I've put 3500 or so miles on mine and I don't even know it's there anymore, and the leather on the top panels has held up well, and the vinyl on the sides looks new.
I have arthritis in my hips, and it used to be quite painful to ride for any distance at all. Not any more. :)

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by rfw2003 on 05/25/12 at 15:14:59


45425454151510270 wrote:
[quote author=6E7A6B2E2C2C2F1C0 link=1337876293/0#11 date=1337916464]The Leather Corbin seat really isn't a bad price.  Total cost for me shipped was $314 and they are pretty through in asking questions such as height, weight, and inseam so they can shape the seat and pad the seat correctly.  I haven't received mine yet as they just shipped it out today but then again I just ordered it a few days ago, so turn around time is great as well.

R.F.

Did you order it straight from the Corbin site?   I would love to know how that works out after you have several miles in that new seat. I have looked at them a couple of times.  That is why I did the mod to my stock seat. [/quote]

Yes I ordered straight from Corbin's site.  I will give a little review once I receive it and put a few miles on it.

R.F.

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by rfw2003 on 05/25/12 at 15:17:22


0E05050C000F0E1415610 wrote:
[quote author=74736565242421160 link=1337876293/0#14 date=1337950801][quote author=6E7A6B2E2C2C2F1C0 link=1337876293/0#11 date=1337916464]The Leather Corbin seat really isn't a bad price.  Total cost for me shipped was $314 and they are pretty through in asking questions such as height, weight, and inseam so they can shape the seat and pad the seat correctly.  I haven't received mine yet as they just shipped it out today but then again I just ordered it a few days ago, so turn around time is great as well.

R.F.

Did you order it straight from the Corbin site?   I would love to know how that works out after you have several miles in that new seat. I have looked at them a couple of times.  That is why I did the mod to my stock seat. [/quote]
They actually mold themselves to your posterior. Takes about 1000 mi for the whole molding process. They are far more comfortable than stock right out of the box. The first day I rode mine I had my wallet in it's usual place in my left hip pocket, and rode for an hour without stopping. My left buttock got sore. After I moved the wallet to my coat pocket I rode for another hour with no problem, then 2 hrs back home with a nice cumfy bum.
The pillion is about 2" wider than stock, and flat, not rounded as the stock pillion is. I have it on good authority that the pillion is much more comfy too.
The driver's seat has more lower back support, and you don't feel like your sliding forward during hard braking, or back during hard acceleration.
It looks good too- follows the line of the tank.
I've put 3500 or so miles on mine and I don't even know it's there anymore, and the leather on the top panels has held up well, and the vinyl on the sides looks new.
I have arthritis in my hips, and it used to be quite painful to ride for any distance at all. Not any more. :)[/quote]

That is great news to my ears.  Tells me that my money was well spent in this little upgrade.  ;D

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by BobWd on 05/25/12 at 16:58:32

I went for a 150-175 mile ride today and had a thought while I was riding. The shadow seat has 3 studs on the back of it. The front has the same type of mount as the stock seat. What if I took some flat stock and mounted it to the studs on the shadow seat & then bent it around so it would mount at the 2 bolts at the front of the sissy bar mount. I had to do a little trimming on the bottom of the pan but it looks like it just might work. Just need some longer bolts for the sissy bar mount, they aren't long enough to go through the flat stock. I will posts some pics if it works. 8-) 8-)

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by BobWd on 05/25/12 at 17:03:40

I only gave $500.00 for the bike with only 210 miles on it so I'm trying to keep from spending a lot on it. I feel it is more enjoyable for me to fabricate something then to pay a bunch of dough for something that is already made. I guess that's the 26 years of turning wrenches for a living talking.

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by BobWd on 05/27/12 at 11:38:39

That idea was a brain fart but I did take Tebowl13's suggestion. I know it doesn't look that good but it sure does make my back side feel better. I am looking for someone to shape cover it properly.

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by BobWd on 05/27/12 at 11:44:07

Here's the pic.

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/27/12 at 11:58:30

Sometimes a guy can get stuff like that done at a small upholstery shop for just a little $$.. YOu mite go for a ride & visit a few & see what kinda deal you can make. Ive gotten some good deals before.. sometimes its as simple as offering to sweep up & carry trash out while they do whatever ya need done,

Title: Re: Stock Savage Seats
Post by BobWd on 05/27/12 at 15:30:38

I just put around 50 miles on that seat and no pain in the backside. I think I will see what I can do to beef up the rear seat now, as I have the rear Shadow seat also. Maybe the wife would share my enjoyment of riding if the rear seat was more comfortable. :-*

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