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Message started by Dave Sisk on 05/07/12 at 18:38:51

Title: Change in handling when carrying a passenger....
Post by Dave Sisk on 05/07/12 at 18:38:51

I have a learner's permit, so I can't legally carry a passenger in NC.  I do plan to take the safety class in the next month or so, and get the full endorsement.

In the meantime, I'm just curious...what kind of handling changes should I expect the first time I put a passenger on the back?  The bike will feel more top heavy at lower speeds of course.  Harder to make low speed turns, probably swing a wider arc unintentionally I'd guess.  Umm...what else should I expect?

Dave

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by bill67 on 05/07/12 at 19:28:57

Its not a lot difference unless the passenger is a lot heaver than you,Tell the passenger not to lean on a curve or they will throw of what your doing,

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by Dave Sisk on 05/07/12 at 20:49:31

I don't plan on having any ladies heavier than me on the back of the bike.  ;D

So, the passenger should try to stay upright when the bike and driver leans?

Cheers,
Dave

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by verslagen1 on 05/07/12 at 21:01:38

tell her to wrap her arms around you tight and don't let go   ;)

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/07/12 at 21:42:30

My daughter, all 110 pounds of her, decided she should try to look aropund the car in front of us, to see if anything was coming,, thank God no one was, because when she leaned over to look, the bike changed lanes,, & I was way unhappy,, tell the passenger to stay straight with the bike, like a sissy bar, head centered over the middle of the seat. Minor movement is okay, but dont go leaning over,& sure enough, dont "help" in a turn,

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by Dave on 05/08/12 at 03:20:05

A couple of months ago we were visiting family in Florida.  After a few days of "visiting" and spending time together.....everyone needs a break and my wife and I rented a very large Harley for a day and went riding.  The bike is huge and heavy and at speeds she could wiggle all she wanted and that big bike didn't care.  We came to a red traffic light and just as we approached it and I leaned left to put my left leg down....she leaned left was well.  Thank goodness I have been going to the gym regularly for the last 1.5 years......it was everything I could go to keep that Harley, the wife and I upright! :o  When you are squated down in that saddle and your leg is out.....instead of down....you really don't have a good angle for heavy lifting.


Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by Paraquat on 05/08/12 at 04:53:43


07223526102A3028430 wrote:
I don't plan on having any ladies heavier than me on the back of the bike.  ;D


You never plan on it, but sometimes it happens. I've found that, unlike wine, the older I get the less... "refined" my tastes become.

Before this site I didn't know I could adjust the seat with risers - I've always ridden on the stock seat which as we all know is angled forward. My last girlfriend would slide down so she'd constantly be adjusting herself. Little changes like that affect a lot when you're not expecting it.


--Steve

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/08/12 at 07:41:18

I respect no man more than the skinny old dude who has the 200 +pounder up on the Queen seat of his Gold Wing & is sitting at the stop sign, calmly waiting for a clear spot in traffic. Ive come so close to dumping Bull coming to a halt,, There is no moment as likely to see me fall than that moment when I go from moving, to stopped.

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by Dave Sisk on 05/08/12 at 08:11:56

Somehow, I just knew this thread would have some comedic undertones.   ;)

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/08/12 at 08:17:35

EVERY thread needs some humor.

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by Dave Sisk on 05/08/12 at 18:23:40


312235342B2620222976470 wrote:
tell her to wrap her arms around you tight and don't let go   ;)


...And continue to do so once you're on the bike behind me.  8-)

Dave

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by Bubba on 05/09/12 at 09:06:04

My wife likes to go for rides sometimes...she is a total wiggle worm tho'...when I ride with her I always try to be prepared for any wierd movement...especially coming to a stop. I don't blame her cuz the passenger seat is not made for...well a passenger.
The bike is so darn light that any movement is amplified.
One trick I've found is to ride scary fast...then she really wraps her arms and legs around me tight!

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by AlphaBarney on 05/12/12 at 09:41:02

Hey Dave, welcome!
If you are looking into the MSF course, you should check out JCC's program.  I took that with Vikki Deaton and Susan Hill.  Excellent teachers!!  Not sure where you are in Raleigh, may be a hike to Smithfield.

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by Dave Sisk on 05/12/12 at 10:34:43

Hey neighbor!  Yeah, the Wake Tech MSF course is booked up until August, the Harley dealer class is twice the price, so I am looking at the Johnston County Tech MSF class.  Haven't scheduled it yet (kinda waiting on a lady friend who wants to do it with me), but it's on the list for soon.

Dave

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by Paraquat on 05/12/12 at 20:06:14


71544350665C465E350 wrote:
(kinda waiting on a lady friend who wants to do it with me),


Couldn't let that pass unnoticed.


--Steve

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by SuperSavage on 05/12/12 at 22:03:59


00253221172D372F440 wrote:
I have a learner's permit, so I can't legally carry a passenger in NC.  I do plan to take the safety class in the next month or so, and get the full endorsement.

In the meantime, I'm just curious...what kind of handling changes should I expect the first time I put a passenger on the back?  The bike will feel more top heavy at lower speeds of course.  Harder to make low speed turns, probably swing a wider arc unintentionally I'd guess.  Umm...what else should I expect?

Dave



Paasengers? That's why God invented the Wheelie, no mo' passenger, no mo' problem. ;D

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by Dave Sisk on 05/13/12 at 10:17:47


6352415242465247330 wrote:
[quote author=71544350665C465E350 link=1336441131/0#13 date=1336844083](kinda waiting on a lady friend who wants to do it with me),


Couldn't let that pass unnoticed.


--Steve[/quote]

LOL.  The class, I meant.  ;)

Title: Re: Change in handling when carrying a passenger..
Post by Dave Sisk on 05/13/12 at 10:27:53

A wide arse on the back helps with balance, right?  8-)

Dave

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