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Message started by CaptialThumper on 05/01/12 at 08:27:23

Title: Fluid Film on the belt?
Post by CaptialThumper on 05/01/12 at 08:27:23
After my cold, wet ride in this morning and 1/2 hour of reading search results here, I'm fairly convinced that my belt is the cause of the squeak I heard on my ride. I want to try lubing it to eliminate all doubt.

I'm a big fan of Fluid Film (http://www.fluid-film.com), but am hesitant to use it because of this little nugget in their FAQ:


Quote:
Will FLUID FILM adversely affect plastic or rubber?
FLUID FILM has no adverse effects on plastics. Caution should be used around rubber goods. May cause swelling.


I read in one of the threads here that the belt is a plastic, not rubber (Oldfeller?). Is this true? Has anyone else tried FF on the belt?

Note: I'm not affiliated with Fluid Film nor Eurika. I just like the product.

Title: Re: Fluid Film on the belt?
Post by arteacher on 05/01/12 at 09:06:57
I made up some mustache wax for my mustache. It is bees wax and Vaseline mixed 2:1. I made up a small jar of it (way more than I will use in my lifetime) and am thinking that it might just do the trick quieting down the belt.

Title: Re: Fluid Film on the belt?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/01/12 at 09:18:36
Vaseline? I wouldnt.. theres a dry powder spray, theres talcum powder then theres wax. I used canning wax, but it slings on the , well,, everything,,

Title: Re: Fluid Film on the belt?
Post by verslagen1 on 05/01/12 at 09:22:07
great, don't get your mustashe caught in the pulley.   8{)

Title: Re: Fluid Film on the belt?
Post by Serowbot on 05/01/12 at 10:27:15

1F3C3436353C3C3522500 wrote:
A lot of mis-information exists about "belts" in general because Harleys use a rubber belt that has a finite life span.

Our belt is made of hard plastic (and I do mean HARD TOUGH plastic) and large diameter tire cord material in the flat portion.  

It is made to be a Bando industrial power transmission belt and it is grossly over spec'd as a motorcycle drive belt.  It is wider, stronger and tougher than a Harley belt.

Little cracks on the flat part are OK and simply happen with time -- the belt is waffled to allow the plastic to bend as much as possible but little cracks occur as the miles rack up.  Remember, it is the strong tire cord hidden inside the flat part that holds the belt together and the little cracks mean nothing to the endless wrap of tire cord inside the flat part.

Remember -- it isn't made of rubber.  It cannot "dry out" or dry rot.  Little cracks on the flat part are meaningless -- the cords keep on being cords and the teeth keep on being hard plastic teeth.


Wait until you try to grind those teeth tips with your little grinder -- that is some more tough plastic !!!



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Title: Re: Fluid Film on the belt?
Post by CaptialThumper on 05/01/12 at 11:08:56
Serowbot: That's not the post I was referring to, but it goes into a lot more detail than the one I'm thinking of. Your quote is from the same source (Oldfeller) so it's not really the second opinion I was hoping for, but I suppose OF's record is good enough that I should have just believed the first post I read on the subject anyway.  ::)

The subsequent reading I've done on FF convinces me that it's lanolin/wax based, and probably isn't petroleum anyway. I'm going to give it a shot.

Title: Re: Fluid Film on the belt?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/01/12 at 11:59:01
http://www.bandousa.com/html/pdfs/bu-200_power_trans.pdf




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Title: Re: Fluid Film on the belt?
Post by BelizeanBanman on 05/01/12 at 16:15:36
Why do they break then? I'm still tryna figure out why mine busted on me. Could a combination of being outside in the weather for a year (not too bright previous owner) and a bad oil leak (the belt was occasionally a bit wet) be the problem? Just lookin' for some tips to avoid breaking the one coming in. The old one did have small cracks, but apparently that shouldn't have been a problem.

Almost any input is valuable, thanks

Title: Re: Fluid Film on the belt?
Post by verslagen1 on 05/01/12 at 16:29:56
The belts are pretty good when well kept.
A few have broken, and w/o a look by an expect, no one can tell you why.
All I can say is you have to protect the belt to some degree.
It's possible that the oil seeped into the fibers and caused them to debond with the cover.  Sooner or later that'll cause problems.

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