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Message started by vineman on 04/28/12 at 16:37:18

Title: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by vineman on 04/28/12 at 16:37:18

So I finally got my Superbrace put on this weekend when I went to see my folks. My dad has a bike jack and since you kinda need to lift the front to install it properly that was the way to do it. The difference in handling is SO much better. It really stiffened up the front and made for a much more relaxing highway high wind ride back home.

But, while the brace did help, I'm still getting a significant wobble in speedy bends. I can fight it a bit but it still wobbles, I'm talking like 50 in a slow bend. Any ideas as to why the bike may be acting like this? About how fast would some of you say you can cruise through twisties?

Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by Serowbot on 04/28/12 at 16:45:52

How old are your tires?... what brand?... they got air in them?... :-?...

Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/28/12 at 17:43:33

Pre Brace, mine wobbled & felt sloppy thru the day,, every day, POst brace, quick turns were much improved, but the long sweepers still had it ridding like drunk rubber cow, wallowing this way & that thu curves, tho, I can get 60+ in one I hit regularly, but the wallowing & handlebar swinging is un nerving & I ease off..

Tighten the shocks to the tightest setting.
Every time the shocks compress, the rake angle changes & the steering input to track a line changes, its trying to go thru the turn, but the fork/chassis angle required to track a line changes with every suspension change, its got the rake out there & its just a handful,
Ohh,, & sit as close to the tank as you can,,
Dont fight the handlebars too much,,slow down, & if the road has any noticeable humps & low points, try to pick a line to dodge them,

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Post by teabowl13 on 04/28/12 at 17:50:02

Not sure if you'd want to go this route, but the RYCA guys have a pretty good method for lowering the front forks; it'll stiffen things up a little more and tighten the steering up by reducing the rake. It's fairly easy to do. You can also stiffen the front forks by adding pre-load spacers on top of the springs. There are articles on all of that in the tech section, but if you don't find them there, let me know and I will track down the links.
I've been doing all of the above to my Roadster Project...

Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by bill67 on 04/28/12 at 18:30:01

4A555259515D523C0 wrote:

The stock tires aren't very stable.

Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/28/12 at 19:18:12

The stock tires aren't very stable.

I know its a young century to date, but, thats the understatement of the century so far.

Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by built2last66 on 04/28/12 at 19:22:30

I put on my Superbrace without raising the front forks.. guess I'm just a tough guy on a motorcycle... I'm gonna start weight lifting soon and I get drunk off of pure petrol, baby...

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Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by vineman on 04/29/12 at 05:03:32

Ya I am running the stock tires and I was planning on getting new ones this next month. Any recommendations for tight cornering?

Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by bill67 on 04/29/12 at 05:27:03

Pirelli 66 route made mine really handle and improved the ride over bumps.

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Post by built2last66 on 04/29/12 at 06:50:36

Metzeler ME880 are pretty good, there's an off ramp on the freeway that I take and I used to be nervous cause it was so patchy with holes that I would wobble with my stock tires and superbrace, but the ME880s have such strong sidewalls I zoom right over it now..

Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/29/12 at 07:50:46

How many miles you think youll put on it in a year?

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Post by vineman on 04/29/12 at 10:58:10

514E484F52556454645C4E42093B0 wrote:

How many miles you think youll put on it in a year?

I tend to average about 3k-4k a year. I guess longevity would be a good thing to balance with performance ha :P

Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by vineman on 04/29/12 at 11:12:24

When ordering tires do I need to get tube specific ones or will tubeless tires work just fine with tubes?

Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by bill67 on 04/29/12 at 11:14:10

tubeless tires work.

Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/29/12 at 11:19:45

Consider the Dunlop 140/90/15.

Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by teabowl13 on 04/29/12 at 11:42:03

Tires are often a very personal choice; like oil wars you will find lots of opinions here. I'm too new to my Savage to have anything specific to offer, but in general, it's definitely NOT something to be cheap about. Every time I have spent the money to get good quality tires, I have never regretted it...

Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/29/12 at 12:01:11

True, but the Dunlop isnt a cheap tire, its reasonable, not the price of a Metz,,but why pay for a Metx just to watch it get old before its worn out?

2 or 3 K/year will wear a Dunlop out in 3 or 4 years, Tires are good enough for that long,

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Post by vineman on 04/29/12 at 15:00:40

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Street-Motorcycle-Performance-Front-White-Wall-Tire-100-90-19-Limited-Supply-New-/251012308759?hash=item3a717fdf17&item=251012308759&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_640wt_905

http://www.ebay.com/itm/260982123990?_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649&item=260982123990&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT&vxp=mtr#ht_596wt_905

EHHHH??? Always wanted white walls. Thoughts?

Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/29/12 at 15:08:12

Mo $$$ & harder toi keep lookin nice,, I wouldnt, but others do, or they wouldnt make them.,

Title: Re: You mean i have control over this?!
Post by vineman on 04/29/12 at 15:13:33

3E2127203D3A0B3B0B33212D66540 wrote:

Mo $$$ & harder toi keep lookin nice,, I wouldnt, but others do, or they wouldnt make them.,

Erghhgg you do speak the truth my friend :P