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Message started by beatup86 on 04/26/12 at 07:25:24

Title: tranny question....
Post by beatup86 on 04/26/12 at 07:25:24

ok here it is im about to buy a 87 savage for a ryca build but i know those only have the 4 speed transmission. heres where my question comes in, how hard is it to make a 5 speed tranny work? how much does this swap usually cost? and is buying this bike (http://norfolk.craigslist.org/mcy/2974796522.html) worth it being that it is just a 4 speed? plz help me out this is supposed to be my belated birthday present to myself lol. thanks guys and gals

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by Serowbot on 04/26/12 at 07:52:08

Anything's possible... but, it's way more trouble than it's worth...

If you really want a 5spd, just find another bike...

....at 17k,.. this bike needs a camchain check and modded adjuster.
Good price though.

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by thumperclone on 04/26/12 at 07:54:27

final ratio on both are nearly the same
i look for a 6th gear sometimes on my 5 speed

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by verslagen1 on 04/26/12 at 08:22:33

not really possible, you'd have to split the cases to get a new tranny in and there's differences in the cases so they just can't be swapped out.

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by greenmonster on 04/26/12 at 08:51:14

Doing a tran swap is easy. Doing it without swapping the rest of the engine is really, really difficult.

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by beatup86 on 04/26/12 at 09:13:42

so basically what everyone is saying is its worthless. lol darn me. or do you guys think its an ok buy just to ride around town and to and from work? in otherwords no highway time?

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by greenmonster on 04/26/12 at 09:18:38

I used to have a 4 speed in Nessy. She ran with the same top speed as she does now with the 5. So I wouldn't worry about the hwy. The biggest difference is that the gears are a lot longer.

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by EJID on 04/26/12 at 09:20:14

I don't think it's worthless at all!!! I think everyone is saying that trying to swap to a 5 speed would be worthless.

A bike like that (& running for a price like that) are hard to find.

I think it would definitely be worth a look in person to make up my mind. 8-)

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/26/12 at 09:27:55

If you can find an affordable 5 speed,, get after it, but a 4 speed works fine, just gotta play with the decompression gizmo or be ready to use the trans & front brake when shutting it off to protect the starter gears from the engine bouncing the piston off of the compression & spinning backwards, bustin teeth,,

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by beatup86 on 04/26/12 at 09:28:26

see i thought the same thing. ive just never owned my own motorcycle before, so i dont really know the differences between 4 speed and 5 speed. i mean obviously most likely top gear and highway cruising speed, but i dont wanna use it on the highway lol. so here is another question. what do u think about 4 speed with the ryca kit?

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by verslagen1 on 04/26/12 at 09:30:39

5255514445400806300 wrote:

so basically what everyone is saying is its worthless. lol darn me. or do you guys think its an ok buy just to ride around town and to and from work? in otherwords no highway time?

'87 for $650, not a bad price.
the 4spd will have the same top speed as a 5spd.
It's just not worth it to upgrade a 4spd to a 5spd one piece at a time.

just be aware that it's probably in need of a cam chain.

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/26/12 at 09:36:08

696E6A7F7E7B333D0B0 wrote:

Perfect fit,,

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by beatup86 on 04/26/12 at 10:10:02

well i dont mind needing to replace things. i got 4 cars to drive till its road ready. now the hard sell is to the wife lol. wish me luck lol

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/26/12 at 10:14:18

ok here it is im about to ask permission from my wife to buy a 87 savage

There, fixed it for you..

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by prechermike on 04/26/12 at 17:47:46

my wife said it was Ok for YOU to buy a bike ;)

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by teabowl13 on 04/26/12 at 18:15:04

I have a '94; last year of the 4 speed, and I just got the parts to fix the starter gear issue for $100. See this link.... (if you haven't already...)

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1288911670/0

Even this I don't think would prevent me from buying a 4 speed; most of those bikes ran fine for ages without the gear issue; but it's such a quick and easy fix, and inexpensive, that I decided I might as well while the bike is down.

A lot of guys here LIKE the 4 speed BETTER than the 5 speeds. It's a matter of taste, but with a motor that has a whole whomp of torque rather than a bunch of top speed, it makes sense. There's plenty of power for the gears, and you're shifting less while riding more.

Besides; $650 is a pretty great price, especially now in the Spring. I got my bike last Fall for $250 (it was a special deal friend-of-a-friend thing...) but saw several listed around $500-$800 that people were just getting rid of. Lately, I haven't seen any under $1000.

Check out my build thread in the signature line below... RYCA-esque, but not RYCA...

Title: Re: tranny question....
Post by beatup86 on 04/27/12 at 05:47:43

word and word. precher mike be expecting an email from me today at some point got a few questions. just realized my wife made a mistake with finances so i dont have all the money for a bike now.