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Message started by KellyKrameyK on 04/21/12 at 08:47:19

Title: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out?
Post by KellyKrameyK on 04/21/12 at 08:47:19

Hey guys, I've purchased a 1988 Savage and it's quite the "project".
It was 120 bucks, so I figured at least it would be fun to tear apart and learn on.

I have one quick question about the front pulley. I don't have a large enough tool to break that nut free. The schematics I see online are telling me it's a 20mm, but the 20mm just doesn't appear large enough.

Does anyone know what size that nut is?

Thanks in advance!

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/12 at 08:54:01

Why you wanna go takin it apart? Why not just get it runnin & ride it?

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by Serowbot on 04/21/12 at 08:56:47

It's a 32mm...  

Try to borrow a gorilla, or an impact wrench... They don't come off easy...
:-?...


Welcome Kelly...  ;)...

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by KellyKrameyK on 04/21/12 at 09:04:09


46595F5845427343734B59551E2C0 wrote:
Why you wanna go takin it apart? Why not just get it runnin & ride it?



I've got a CBR1000RR as a daily driver, this is more of a complete tear down and rebuild type of project. At this point I have no idea if it will even turn over. The original owner parked it in 2006 when it was running..then it sat outside this entire time.

Even if it turns out the engine is trash I figure the frame and title alone is worth what I have in it.  8-)

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by KellyKrameyK on 04/21/12 at 09:08:34


3B2D3A273F2A273C480 wrote:
It's a 32mm...  

Try to borrow a gorilla, or an impact wrench... They don't come off easy...
:-?...


Welcome Kelly...  ;)...



Thanks very much! I was expecting that, every nut on this sucker is a workout! I guess thats a good sign, that no ones been wrenching on it til me.

Now that I'm looking at it, I guess I should just drop the back wheel and take it apart that way.

I've also noticed the flange on that front pulley looks all outta sorts, like someone was attempting to straigten or thin it out. That might be a problem later.

As of right now, I have the seat, tank, controls, carb, and wiring harness completely off the bike. My goal is to remove the engine and bring it to my dad, who lives a couple states over. It's on the lift, do you suggest I remove the back wheel and go at it that way?

I'm 37 and been riding since I was 5...but this is my first project so any help is certainly appreciated.

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by Serowbot on 04/21/12 at 09:09:57

Huh,...the PO painted the gas cap, but left the chrome head covers on...
That's just weird... :-?...

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/12 at 09:10:12

Leave the rear on till ya get that mean ol nut off,,

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by teabowl13 on 04/21/12 at 09:37:51

HEY KELLY!

Welcome aboard! I have to say, $120 beats my $250 Savage, and I though THAT was a steal; of course, mine was running at the time...
These bikes rarely got ridden hard, and rarely got wrenched on too much. The PO has obviously kind-a/sort-a bobered it, but I doubt that engine's ever been touched; What's the mileage say?
As long as the engine was sealed up tight and didn't get any water down inside, that thing may yet surprise you! A good carb cleaning and some elbow grease might be al it takes to fire it up. I've seen worse...

Tell us what your plans are for this one...
My build project is in my signature....

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by Serowbot on 04/21/12 at 09:43:46

If you're gonna' pull the engine,.. that front pulley has to come off...

... but,. like Tea says,.. you might just try getting it running first.  Internals may be okay...

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by Scott McCrory on 04/21/12 at 12:11:14


625B48444C50290 wrote:
[quote author=46595F5845427343734B59551E2C0 link=1335023240/0#1 date=1335023641]Why you wanna go takin it apart? Why not just get it runnin & ride it?



I've got a CBR1000RR as a daily driver, this is more of a complete tear down and rebuild type of project. At this point I have no idea if it will even turn over. The original owner parked it in 2006 when it was running..then it sat outside this entire time.

Even if it turns out the engine is trash I figure the frame and title alone is worth what I have in it.  8-)[/quote]

Uh oh, looks like another builder/maker type!  [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by MMRanch on 04/22/12 at 08:29:59

Congratulations Kelly

If you got a clear title with it you got your moneys worth.

The SAE size would be 1 1/4 "  .

keep us posted on your "getting it on the road" project.


:)

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/22/12 at 08:43:22

Someone on the brake while someone works on breakin that nut loose could be a help, an impact would make life a lot easier.
No impact? a CHEATER & A HAMMER IS THE NEXT BEST THING.

oops, caplox, sorry.

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by KellyKrameyK on 04/22/12 at 08:59:38


7B697B69647778757E360 wrote:
Congratulations Kelly

If you got a clear title with it you got your moneys worth.

The SAE size would be 1 1/4 "  .

keep us posted on your "getting it on the road" project.


:)



Thanks for the info, I will keep posting pics as the project gets in gear :)

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by KellyKrameyK on 04/22/12 at 09:00:50


322D2B2C31360737073F2D216A580 wrote:
Someone on the brake while someone works on breakin that nut loose could be a help, an impact would make life a lot easier.
No impact? a CHEATER & A HAMMER IS THE NEXT BEST THING.

oops, caplox, sorry.



The front brakes were seized when I got it..so after pushing it like that across 200 feet of dirt my first project was to break those loose to move it easier. Looks like a hammer is in my future!

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/22/12 at 09:18:02

Be aware the cheater will flex down & spring up, hard. A foot instead of a hand will be a lot less painful & dont hit right on the end. Hit down close to where the cheater meets the handle of the breaker bar, if you have one, or ratchet, if you dont & dont hit between the nut & where the end of the ratchet is, because that will flip the breaker into your hand or foot & do little to spin the nut,

& if all you have is a 1 pound hammer,, get a bigger hammer in your life,
You can get a 4 pound for cheap nowadays..

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by thumperclone on 04/22/12 at 09:46:23


233C3A3D20271626162E3C307B490 wrote:
Leave the rear on till ya get that mean ol nut off,,

in gear

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by verslagen1 on 04/22/12 at 09:52:10


687469716C796E7F707372791C0 wrote:
[quote author=233C3A3D20271626162E3C307B490 link=1335023240/0#6 date=1335024612]Leave the rear on till ya get that mean ol nut off,,

in gear[/quote]
foot on the brake

front wheel against the wall

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by 2011suzukis40 on 04/22/12 at 13:02:32

thats a sweet ride for only $120. You must be a handy girl. I wish I was inclined enough to take on a project. Good luck I am sure your bike is going to be great when its done. Post pics of your progress.

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by Scott McCrory on 04/22/12 at 13:36:02


1D1F1E1E5C5A555A44465C1B1F2F0 wrote:
thats a sweet ride for only $120. You must be a handy girl. I wish I was inclined enough to take on a project. Good luck I am sure your bike is going to be great when its done. Post pics of your progress.


100% agreed.  100% envious of the $120 score and 100% envious of your mechanical chutzpah!

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by teabowl13 on 04/22/12 at 20:49:48

Just saw in another thread you were thinking about making a cafe project out of your Savage... do tell!!

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by serenity3743 on 04/23/12 at 12:55:38

One other thing to be aware of is the "locking washer" on that front pulley.  Make sure you get the washer flattened out or you'll really have a hard time getting the nut off!!

Title: Re: New Savage owner, anyone wanna help a girl out
Post by WD on 04/23/12 at 15:56:22

Before you go getting a hernia (or 10), pull the spark plug and use a transmission funnel to fill the cylinder with some kind of light oil. Marvel Mystery Oil, ATF, 0-whatever, PB Blaster, etc. Let it sit a few days. Put the  bike at the top of a hill, in 3rd, clutch pulled. Climb on and when you hit about 5 mph, pop it into gear. Worst case you bust the piston rings and/or fall over. If the motor is free and you didn't hear any "tinkling" sounds leave it alone. Worked on my 28 Indian Scout that had been parked from 1959-1992...

You can modify and repaint the frame just fine without pulling the engine. Welding blanket over the alloy bits when cutting, grinding or welding. Grease over the alloy bits when painting the frame. Besides if you pull the engine and accidentally paint the motor mounts you'll just have to sand them clean again. Or have a lousy chassis ground...

Have fun with it. We've had cafe racers, full dress tourers, choppers, bobbers, dual sport versions... mine is a mutt, bits of all those styles... think custom Matchless circa 1958 (but with apehangers)...


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