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Message started by Serowbot on 04/19/12 at 16:40:04

Title: Re: Bad Header?
Post by Serowbot on 04/19/12 at 16:40:04

Naa,.. crappy welds are par for the course in a Savage...
Never seen a header flange warped like that before... but, you have a new one, right?...
???.. How do you install a new flange?... does it slide over that doodaa at the bottom of the pipe?... Just wonderin'...

Anyway,.. when mine leaked,.. I installed a new gasket over the old one (double)... that worked for me...

Title: Re: Bad Header?
Post by Fish on 04/19/12 at 16:54:17

Hey Moderators, can one of you delete this thread please? I messed it up.

EDIT: Looking at some things again and looking at the motorcycle handyman CD I now realize that that area inside the exhaust header can in no shape or manner be my problem. SORRY GUYS. I'm still a newb and this is my first bike that I haven't done much tinkering on. I thought from one picture I had seen that the gasket was supposed to fit inside

Thanks for the replies


I have had this Dyna stamped with part # 64941-01 sitting around forever now. I figured that since I have my exhaust apart I might try putting it on. Isn't it supposed to butt all the way up to that ring on on the header?

It doesn't seem to want to fit:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/MadProfessor/Sammy/DynaFit.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/MadProfessor/Sammy/DynaFit2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/MadProfessor/Sammy/DynaFit3.jpg

I've read about several people installing Dynas, I've never seen anyone have this problem.
What gives?

Title: Re: Bad Header?
Post by Serowbot on 04/19/12 at 16:57:42

I'd get new factory bolts too, when you pick up a fresh gasket... worth a try... (besides... they're pretty)...
Best luck... ;)...

Title: Re: Bad Header?
Post by Fish on 04/19/12 at 17:09:58

Yeah, the new bolts, flange, and gasket were all OEM parts.

Here's a picture I snapped when they arrived at my doorstep via UPS THROWING the box against my front door:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/MadProfessor/Sammy/HeaderClamp.jpg


The gasket was from a local dealership and the bolts and flange came from Bike Bandit.

Well now that there's no gasket in there the flange fits flush.

Slow moment: Because it's a "Crush" gasket is the flange not supposed to fit flush with the head until a new gasket is fully crushed in by fully seating the bolts in the header flange?

Title: Re: Bad Header?
Post by Serowbot on 04/19/12 at 18:38:48

If you "crush the gasket that far (flush),... you over-tightened...
... and you will break your new flange..
Spec is 12lbs I think...anyway,... feel it bite, firm... but don't break it.  It don't go home,.. just to tight...

Title: Re: Bad Header?
Post by verslagen1 on 04/19/12 at 19:20:23

ITEM                                      N-m                    |      ft-lb
Exhaust pipe clamp bolts      18.0      28.0      |      13.3      20.6

Title: Re: Bad Header?
Post by Serowbot on 04/19/12 at 19:24:55


4A5C4B564E5B564D390 wrote:
Spec is 12lbs I think...anyway,...


BZZT!!!..  I was wrong... :-X...

;D...(so,.. is that 13,.. or 20...?)... (or is the left one different than the right one?)...
The mind,.. wobbles... :-?...

Title: Re: Bad Header?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/19/12 at 21:01:31

No flange,, slide it down,,out of the way, run a bolt in & see how it feels. Use a small wire & see how deep the hole is,.Compare to how far bolt screws in,, If its really not goin in all the way,, say something, Ill explain the next step,

Title: Re: Bad Header?
Post by verslagen1 on 04/19/12 at 21:13:23

I've had the same problem, just put it in a vice and straighten it out.

Title: Re: Bad Header?
Post by Fish on 04/21/12 at 10:30:26

The bolts do thread all the way down in without the flange and header there.

Should I grind down that bit of extra crap from the weld in the header with a dremel if I can get my hands on one?

I picked up a new header gasket last night seeing as how the last one in there disintegrated.

Title: Re: Bad Header?
Post by Serowbot on 04/21/12 at 10:42:35

That weld ain't hurtin' nuttin'...

Title: Re: Bad Header?
Post by Fish on 04/21/12 at 10:46:45


4B584F4E515C5A58530C3D0 wrote:
I've had the same problem, just put it in a vice and straighten it out.


The flange?  Or the header pipe?

I replaced that warped flange with a new, flat one a couple of weeks ago.

Title: Re: Bad Header?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/12 at 11:12:14

If your exhaust ever worked right, then that weld isnt a problem,, unless you think its grown lately,

Title: Re: Bad Header?
Post by Fish on 04/21/12 at 11:16:56

UPDATE

I finally realized something I was totally overlooking with the header issue. Thanks for the responses.

How about a hand with that muffler fit?

Title: Re: Bad Header? Update: Dyna Muffler Issue
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/21/12 at 11:30:03

I'd just gently play with it & try to get it together & get stuff to go in straight & all,, if it just wont, then Id put a dab of silicone or oil or something where I thot the obstruction is & try again,, if the goo transfers, then its hitting,,

Time consuming,, yea, may hafta play a while to find it,,
You can also get a can of dye from a machine shop supply, IDK what it costs. Its a rattle can sized can.

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