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Title: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by thomasoconnor19 on 04/15/12 at 20:20:55 Just wondering what the general riding qualities and differences are between these bars. I have a 2003 Savage with the stock bars that ai am interested in replacing for something that would put me in a lower riding position. Also if anyone has some links to any bar recommendations in black that would be great! Id like the bars to clear my gas tank so it doesnt get dented. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by vineman on 04/15/12 at 21:54:03 I'm not familiar with the 2003 stock bars but from the sounds of it you didn't get drag bars stock like my 2007 did. From experience if you go drag bars you'll need to get risers 2"+ as well in order for them to clear the tank and rest naturally UNLESS you modify the stops on the tree but then you won't be able to use the handle lock. You could also look at drag bars that are wide and have little pull back on them ans that may alleviate the "clearing the tank problem." i have some bars coming in this week that match that description. Nice and wide 8) Clubman bars I'm almost positive will clear the tank no problem. You will only be able to get the clip-ons from the guys at ryca because no one else makes them for our diameter fork tubes and they aren't cheap. All that said, remember the bike is pretty short already and your feet and hands aren't all that far apart as it is. I'm 5'8" and when I tried my drag bars way low I was folded in half pretty good but not to where it was all that uncomfortable. I don't know how tall YOU are but that may be something to consider as well. Honestly some forward control extensions help that problem too. P.S. my bars are 25" drag bars with a 3" pull back and they hit the tank with 1" risers. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by Serowbot on 04/15/12 at 23:17:08 Yup,.. I had to go nearly 3" risers to get the slight downward tilt on the drags I installed... You can go 2" or less if you're okay with an uptilt on the ends, but that's uncomfortable on the wrists... Broomstick might work, but again, no tilt... I might look into modding the steering locks a bit to get lower myself... ...low looks so cool... |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/16/12 at 04:56:08 Looks are dandy,, but comfort & control are primary in my mind. I like the idea of risers & turning the bars down a bit, making the wrists happy, |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by splash07 on 04/16/12 at 05:58:05 I have been playing with 4 different bar configurations for about 3 years. Started with buckhorns turned up some, then went to the drag style bars to which I had to ad 3" riser so they would clear the tank. Then I was convinced I wanted clip ons (maybe still do) and started pricing them which convinced me I, in fact, did not want clip ons. Now I am happy with my clubman bars, they give me the feel and look of super low bars but at half the price of clip ons. Got my clubmans on ebay, cost about $70 shipped. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by spacepirates on 04/16/12 at 06:24:51 I just picked up some garage door tension rod to make some broomsticks/straight bars out of. Did a test fit the other night and they are certainly more aggressive than the stock buckhorns I've got now. Once a few hours of free time crops up, I'll toss them on for a few days and see how they feel. Better look up that post from a while back on DIY risers out of sockets. I can never justify paying what some places want for risers. Saw a pair for $150 just a few days ago. madness. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by spacepirates on 04/16/12 at 06:26:19 oh, hey, another thought: Does anyone know if our controls use the handlebars as a ground connection? On one of my other bikes, I tried powder coated handlebars which wouldn't work because the starter button used the normally chromed handlebars as a ground. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by skeebo on 04/16/12 at 08:43:01 Air-Tech is a good source for clubmans and clip-ons, I've bought fairings and seat material from them also. These bars are 28'' wide 5 deg. backsweep with adjustable stops (no fork lock courtesy of previous owner) |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by thomasoconnor19 on 04/16/12 at 08:53:53 Thanks for the help everyone. I am 5'8", live in Chicago and will unfortunately be doing mostly city (traffic) riding, with occasional ~30 mile highway rides. So that definitely has an impact on the types of bars I may want to put on. Here is a picture of my bike's current bars...I believe these are the stock bars. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by thomasoconnor19 on 04/17/12 at 08:28:29 20383636313C530 wrote:
What size bars will fit the Suzuki's? The Air-Tech site has a lot of options! |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by skeebo on 04/17/12 at 08:39:23 302C2B2925372B272B2A2A2B36757D440 wrote:
What size bars will fit the Suzuki's? The Air-Tech site has a lot of options! [/quote] Stock bars are 1'' dia. Shoot them an email regarding 38mm/1'' clipons. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by thomasoconnor19 on 04/17/12 at 08:54:22 68707E7E79741B0 wrote:
What size bars will fit the Suzuki's? The Air-Tech site has a lot of options! [/quote] Stock bars are 1'' dia. Shoot them an email regarding 38mm/1'' clipons. [/quote] I think I'm going to pick up the CLUB3B - 1" Wide clubman handlebars. I tried some clip on's on a friends Kawasaki and felt like they would probably be a bit too low for my liking. Where can I get the proper spacer required so that these bars clear my tank? |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by skeebo on 04/17/12 at 09:04:10 435F585A564458545859595845060E370 wrote:
What size bars will fit the Suzuki's? The Air-Tech site has a lot of options! [/quote] Stock bars are 1'' dia. Shoot them an email regarding 38mm/1'' clipons. [/quote] I think I'm going to pick up the CLUB3B - 1" Wide clubman handlebars. I tried some clip on's on a friends Kawasaki and felt like they would probably be a bit too low for my liking. Where can I get the proper spacer required so that these bars clear my tank? [/quote] Dude those are Hot!...Can't tell what you will need yet..spacer wise. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by verslagen1 on 04/17/12 at 09:11:40 2A3631333F2D313D313030312C6F675E0 wrote:
Spacers can be made from anything, 3/4"deep 3/8"drive sockets work well, just replace the bolts in you clamps with 3/8" bolts to the length required and self locking nuts. get the high strength bolts, not the common fence post bolts. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by skeebo on 04/17/12 at 09:17:19 382B3C3D222F292B207F4E0 wrote:
Spacers can be made from anything, 3/4"deep 3/8"drive sockets work well, just replace the bolts in you clamps with 3/8" bolts to the length required and self locking nuts. get the high strength bolts, not the common fence post bolts.[/quote] High strength bolts?....They're only handlebars... :o |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by verslagen1 on 04/17/12 at 09:31:08 And I like them where they're at thank you. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by gerald.hughes on 04/17/12 at 09:37:58 Personally, I love the HD Dyna bars. They are easy to come by, no modifications needed, and they are super comfortable, and give great steering. http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp223/gerald_hughes/IMG_3468.jpg |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by thomasoconnor19 on 04/17/12 at 09:50:01 found these drag bars too, now to decide which to buy.... https://www.denniskirk.com/khrome-werks/black-custom-bend-low-rise-drag-bars.p597724.prd/597724.sku |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by teabowl13 on 04/17/12 at 10:59:46 Those low-rise drag bars look great; you could install them upside down and get a stance that's close to a clubman, but not nearly as radical. For my bike, I found a bar from a modern triumph Bonneville on Ebay for $30. I haven't finished putting it together yet, but sitting on it I really like the feel. I installed them upside down; clubman style, but they are not as radically low, and they are also wider, which should give me a more solid sense of control; I've ridden several bikes with very sporty clip-ons, and while I am sure they are perfect for the track, I personally like a slightly more relaxed sporting ride out on public roads (if that makes any sense...) Here are some super-crappy pictures of how they look installed; keep in mind, I am doing a RYCA-like roadster, so it's going to be completely different from your stock bike. These kind of bars might not feel so good at all with the stock Savage's forward foot positioning; but it's all very personal, and it might take a few experiments to find what suits you best. http://p1.bikepics.com/2011/12/11/bikepics-2314670-full.jpg http://p1.bikepics.com/2011/12/11/bikepics-2314671-full.jpg |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by thomasoconnor19 on 04/17/12 at 12:06:31 https://www.denniskirk.com/khrome-werks/black-custom-bend-low-rise-drag-bars.p597724.prd/597724.sku Anyone have a similar bar setup? Would love to hear about how it fits you and rides. Also do all of those specs for those KromeWerks bars look ok to bolt right on to the Savage? |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by thomasoconnor19 on 04/18/12 at 07:38:36 19282C2F223A217C7E4D0 wrote:
Would you say that your bars are somewhat similar in geometry to the Dennis Kirk bars I posted? Planning on getting those or the black clubmans on ebay. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by teabowl13 on 04/18/12 at 08:04:20 2E3235373B29353935343435286B635A0 wrote:
That's what caught my eye... Those Dennis Kirk bars look a LOT like the ones I found. I was looking for something that looked like clubman's but were not so radical. Since you are coming from stock bars, you may even want to try using the Dennis Kirk bars right-side-up. They are basically like a super-bike bar, and I've used those on almost all of the bikes I've owned. I really like that upright position for everyday riding. I get a lot of control as well as a better view of the road and the world around me. I also suspect that you will find that a less radical change in the bar position will make a lot more difference to your riding than you might imagine... I've even considered using my bars right-side-up on my roadster. Even though the clubman style looks cooler, I really do want it to be comfortable all day... or as much as it can be. Those bars at least give you both options; the clubman's might work right-side-up, but not very well, and they will look pretty goofy that way too, I think... Were it me, I'd get the Dennis Kirk bars... |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by thomasoconnor19 on 04/18/12 at 11:37:19 Ok cool. Just ordered up the DennisKirk bars. I will post some pics and thoughts once I have them on! |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by thomasoconnor19 on 04/23/12 at 20:52:26 Got the bars installed tonight. Still haven't ridden it yet, but it seems to feel good just from sitting on the bike. Much better than the stock bars. They don't hit the gas tank which is great...I can still play with the angle a bit. Only problem is that the grooved areas dont line up with the handlebar clamps....I don't think it will be a problem though. http://i44.tinypic.com/20gmlcp.jpg http://i42.tinypic.com/bjd7ok.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/2a4o136.jpg |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by teabowl13 on 04/24/12 at 04:10:34 Those look awesome! And no, the grooved areas shouldn't be a problem; lots of bars don't have that at all. It's just a little unsightly. You could probably paint that part black with some model paint and you'll hardly notice it at all.... |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by martinfilms34 on 04/24/12 at 15:37:39 Im in the same dilemma as you are, Im pretty sure i wanna go with clubman bars. Can anyone recommend me some affordable clubman bars that will go on without risers? |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by Epeck on 04/30/12 at 12:31:44 41595757505D320 wrote:
So Air-tech is where your bars are from? I really want a pair just like the ones on your bike. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by splash07 on 04/30/12 at 13:48:17 28737E65667B7E657A1F0 wrote:
I found a pair of great clubmans on fleabay for 65 bucks shipped to my house. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by thomasoconnor19 on 07/20/12 at 14:06:59 anyone put on the 1" clubman bars? i need to buy new bars and am wondering how those work out for people? |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by Albert Verdugo on 02/14/15 at 18:51:17 11090707000D620 wrote:
I just recently made this mod in mi s40, but the handelbars hts the tank, how do you managed this problem? do you have some closeups of your handlebars? |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by verslagen1 on 02/14/15 at 20:28:20 0C2E273A2E2C4F0 wrote:
I just recently made this mod in mi s40, but the handelbars hts the tank, how do you managed this problem? do you have some closeups of your handlebars? [/quote] if you look closely, you'll skeebo has broomstick bars. for most bars, you'll need 2 to 4" risers to clear the tank. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by Rylee on 03/05/15 at 23:17:19 Just installed these clubman bars on my 96 bobber setup and I love them. Stock riser no issues. Note: I have a 2.3 gl peanut tank but with the way they are installed I doubt the would hit a stock tank. http://m.ebay.com/itm/310657406997 Yes that price is correct. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by Rylee on 03/05/15 at 23:18:12 Another pic |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by dustystranger on 03/06/15 at 19:05:39 standard Sportster bars or Dyna bars ( I actually think they are almost identical) have worked for me. Drag bars, not enough pullback. Clubman bars, too far forward. Buy em all and try em all. It will be money well spent. |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by Yoshi on 03/07/15 at 02:56:17 Both are real comfortable ;-) http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/VduBpl/Suzuki%20Savage%20LS650/20141027_074231_zpsflcamqhp.jpg (http://s57.photobucket.com/user/VduBpl/media/Suzuki%20Savage%20LS650/20141027_074231_zpsflcamqhp.jpg.html) http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g214/VduBpl/Suzuki%20Savage%20LS650/20140301_181638_zpso7h4hwel.jpg (http://s57.photobucket.com/user/VduBpl/media/Suzuki%20Savage%20LS650/20140301_181638_zpso7h4hwel.jpg.html) |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by Philmh on 03/07/15 at 08:40:47 Hey thomasoconnor! Is your bike in your kitchen?!?!? It doesn't get better than that for a workshop! |
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Title: Re: Clip ons vs. drag vs. clubman handlebars Post by Albert Verdugo on 03/29/15 at 22:13:57 tnx for the tip, I will buy a 2" risers 293A2D2C333E383A316E5F0 wrote:
I just recently made this mod in mi s40, but the handelbars hts the tank, how do you managed this problem? do you have some closeups of your handlebars? [/quote] if you look closely, you'll skeebo has broomstick bars. for most bars, you'll need 2 to 4" risers to clear the tank.[/quote] |
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