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Title: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/05/12 at 13:37:46 Anyone know the best tool to get to remove a large egg sized dent in the curved part of the gas tank, nearest to the filler cap on the side? |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by verslagen1 on 04/05/12 at 13:55:42 shotgun |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/05/12 at 14:14:05 The cops said I'm not allowed to have any guns.. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by Serowbot on 04/05/12 at 15:20:17 This works... where rubber suckers, and dry ice didn't... (definitely don't try air in the tank; she'll blow, you'll cry)... http://www.harborfreight.com/crossbar-dent-repair-kit-66957.html http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_16084.jpg |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/05/12 at 22:05:08 Gonna give that a try, and then hopefully a new paint job.. bike fell off the bike jack wit no handle bars on it.. smashed rear turn signal and big old dent in the tank.. set me forward on my bobber style at least :D |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by heroicseven on 04/05/12 at 23:15:40 let us know how that goes, I'm in a similar position. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/06/12 at 02:21:55 If youd post a pic, Ill tell you what youll have to do. Sounds to me like you need a body man or a tank, I have a dent in mine from Catching it when it was falling,, I cant imagine the crushing the tank would get from a fall like you describe, |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/06/12 at 06:18:43 5B444245585F6E5E6E56444803310 wrote:
Think the Crossbar Dent Repair kit will do the trick, or do I need one of those rubber pad ended hook thingies? http://i44.tinypic.com/ouxmyq.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/2dvvtdg.jpg |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/06/12 at 07:34:43 Youll need a very light hammer & a very careful hand. Every dent creates an eyebrow around it, a high spot. If youll get a piece of wood, hard wood, like 1/2" X 3/4 & 6 or 8 long & shape the face to eliminate hard edges, You can pull with the crossbar from the bottom of that dent & using light quick taps work around that eyebrow. As you work that down, the low spot will come up & the eyebrow will walk to the center. IF & considering the size of the dent, I wouldnt be surprised to see the suction cup wont pull hard enough to do this, you can drill a hole in the low point & get a T hook from a body shop supply, or make one. Anyway, you have to pull on the dent while you gently spank the eyebrow. Light quik taps, LIGHT taps, Its better to take too long than make it worse, Go to a body shop & look around at the employees, see if you see anyone you want to talk to. Go to shops till ya do, if ya see a bike,, well,, thats a good sign, Some of those guys just want to make $$$, some of them like to see people try to learn & will help.,theyre just like everyone else,, You can even rent a tool that welds a brad onto the metal, & it comes with a slide hammer that grips the brad, so, no hole.. Now, does that glowing red metal have the potential to blow the tank? IDK!! So,, take precautions or just dont do that,, How to plug the hole if you drill? IDK,, so,, before you do that,, know how youll fill it, safely. YOu can also ask the shop owner for a fender or any bent piece so you can practice with your hammering before you work on your tank,, Have a look at body hammers online, they look a lot like a silversmiths hammer, Leave your caveman at home, let the secretary swing the hammer,.its wrist stuff, forearm hardly moves at all. Also, thats really a pretty hard crease, it may have stretched the metal some. Heat is the usual answer to shrinking metal, using a brazing tip, heating a dime sized area, it swells up, ya spank it a couple of times to flatten it, then quench with a wet rag.. BUT,, I shrunk a door on a car that had a fancy interior I wasnt able to remove. A punch with a pointed but not sharp end, like a pencil that isnt fresh out of the sharpener, but not time to sharpen again, either,, right when its writing a nice solid line,,It takes some work & technique, IF you need it, Ill explain it later, its a pot of typing, Good Luck, man, Ill bet you wanted to puke when you saw that,,bummer, dude,, YOu might just be ahead to take it to a shop & be done with it,.,. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/06/12 at 11:33:39 Puked when I saw it? More likee yelled and cursed and kicked a few empty boxes around! I seem to learn the hard way, and my lessons I learn well... I got a few ideas on how to"work with it" and since its near the filler it might be easier than expected to knock back out :D |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/06/12 at 11:37:05 Nope,, it wont,, & itll be stretched pretty bad Id bet,, You cant position your blows strategically from inside, youd be ahead to go visit a few bodyshops till you find someone who does work at home, |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by Gyrobob on 04/06/12 at 11:43:14 I had a dent like that in a Suzuki GS850 (the best standard ever made). I put that dent there by dropping a helmet on the tank. I was not happy. I rode that bike around for years with that dent. I finally bought a Ding King which real similar in principal to that Harbor Freight deelybob. I tried it several times on the dent, and it would always just pop off without pulling the dent out. I gave up for bit,.. then came back later,... when I had some wishful thinking,.. maybe it was just hope, but the dent seemed a bit smaller. So I tried again and again and again, and sure enough the dent was getting smaller,.. and finally, a big kapow when the dent just popped back out. It may or may not work on your particular dent, but it worked on mine. I'm not sayin',.. I'm just sayin' |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/06/12 at 11:57:03 Well,, I made a living as a bodyman for 3 years. Im far from the best, Im not even close, but from the location of that dent & the eyebrow I see in the distortion in the unbent part as it comes to the dent, Id say thats a hard crease & just pulling wont begin to fix it, Again, Id go visdit some shops & see if I could find someone who does bodywork at home,,I worked with guys who did that & they worked pretty cheap. If you want to do the bondo, thats a place to save some $$$, but Ive never seen anyone without training, w/o someone showing them how, win in a reasonable amount of time,,Need a sanding block, too. By the time you buy all the stuff & learn how to do it, you will have spent $$$ & time you could have spent elsewhere.. & really,,, when will you need what you will learn? Ive gone thru a few learning curves & paid for that School of Hard KNocks & realized I should have just hired it done,, or gone & bought what I was "Saaavin Munney" by building,, This could be a great opportunity to ride over to some guys place with a 12 pack & work with him & learn some stuff,, savin $$, helping the guy.. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/06/12 at 20:07:32 Thanks for all the tips, if I bought a new s40 gas tank shell, how hard is it to put in my speedometer, wiring, filler, and all that stuff.. make sure it's sealed? |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/06/12 at 20:09:43 Heck of a lot easier than fixin that dent, but Id bet you could get it fixed for less than a tank. If you want to go that route, you mite look for a used one, gonna have to paint, either way, You know,, the bike isnt ruined, you can ride like that & hunt for the best answer & fix it next winter,, |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/06/12 at 20:49:04 Its really not as bad as the pic looks, how much would it cost to have it fixed ya think? It's not super horrible... and doesn't have a "brow" it just looks that way in the pic... it may pop right out... |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/06/12 at 21:17:29 YOu slid your hand along the Non bent part, toward the dent & it didnt rise before it went down? YOu may need a piece of T shirt under your hand to feel it, Id be truly shocked if it isnt there, they are found where dents are found, Id be shocked to see the labor on that dent be over 30 minutes with a pro on it, some guy in his own shop, moonlighting, take an hour,, someone who doesnt know how? May not get it in a day,., Now, thats not paint time, ya know,,paint will cost more than UN dentin it,..by a lot, Now is the time to paint the whole thing if you have any desire. You can save $$$ by hiring someone who does it at home, you sand & do p[rep work & learn some stuff & save a bundle, |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/06/12 at 21:26:14 It doesn't raise before it bends in, I could get it to pop out with that bar dent fixer thing if it didn't use glue sticks, something stronger.. just tried with that crap for an hour, the the plunger kept breaking out of the glue... I was gonna paint it anyway... once the dent is out I'll paint it myself... this dent should be CAKE for a pro, easy access to it and its not creased or raised.. I have no idea where to look for someone easy on the wallet (cheaper than a new tank) and does top notch quality work... I can get a new tank shell for $100 Oh well, it's drivable and not going to any photo shoots soon so I guess it's a waiting game... :D |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/06/12 at 21:36:38 Or I could just get one of these: http://shop.ultradenttools.com/MT02A-22-120-Hook-7-16diameter-MT02A.htm |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/06/12 at 21:58:10 If you want to do the paint, Ill bet you can ride up to a few shops & talk to some folks & find someone to fix the dent for $20.00 & a 6 pack. Justy dont rush it,, look around, spend a few minutes visitin,, if you can catch someone using a long board , take a few minutes to watch, |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by Serowbot on 04/06/12 at 23:09:24 Looking at the pic.... I think I see eyebrow, too... ... so if you want perfect,... it probably needs pulled out, then pounded down around the rim...(pro stuff)... (or whatever magic those auto body dudes do)... :-?... ... options... a, it's character... b, have you considered chrome?... chrome is faster, you know... ;D... Funny thing... my buddy just bought another V-star (he buys one every other week),... that had a double (fist size) dent from a helmet drop (yeah, right)... The bike shop we went to, recommended a body place just down the street. We stopped in to ask, and two guys there gave us a look, and a nod, over to a tank on the floor,... and said.... "Don't try compressed air";;; The tank was,... extremely expanded (think, blunderbuss?).... Anyway,.. the HF glue popper worked to 85% satisfaction... Sorry it didn't cut it for you,... but worth a try... So,....... have you considered chrome?.... You'd only be second one here with a chrome tank... I swear, I'm 2 seconds faster... (which is a shame with all the women's chasing me down the street).... (sorry ladies,.. can't slow down with the chrome tank,... just too much power...)...:-?... |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/07/12 at 05:50:21 I like chrome tanks but right now I need to find out who or how to get this dent out.. aha |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by x1karr0usx on 04/07/12 at 06:33:34 I don't know how deep that dent is.. I would be worried about stressing the crease if you pulled the dent, shouldn't be an issue though... If it isn't deep, BONDO that spot and repaint! When I bought my bike, it looked like it's former job was as an obstacle at a golf driving range. Sand the whole tank and it highlights any other dents. Lay some bondo to fill the dent(s), then gradually step up your standing until it is like melted butter and smooth with the rest of the tank.. then repaint. I have had good luck with the DupliColor cans from Advanced Auto Parts and a good clear coat. The finish looks factory. Though the easiest route would be to buy a new tank. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/07/12 at 06:37:07 Do you need new gaskets/seals or any special tools/skills to swap over a speedometer and wiring to a new tank? |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by x1karr0usx on 04/07/12 at 07:30:33 I took mine out when I reprinted, and it was pretty basic and needed nothing to re-install. Remove tank. Disconnect speedo cable and wiring harness. Remove three nuts from speedometer assembly (don't lose the springs and washers underneath). Remove assembly from tank. Install assembly in new tank. Add the washers, springs, and nuts to the three posts. Connect speedometer cable. Connect wiring harness. You are talking about moving the entire assembly, right? Or are you moving the just speedo to a new assembly? |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by x1karr0usx on 04/07/12 at 07:36:23 Also, a little tick with the Ding King.... Whether it works or not, take it back and say it didn't work lol. I got t-boned in my first car and got a big check to cover the damages (nothing more than a dent in the rear door). Gotta loved getting hit by rich people who want to avoid their insurance company lol. Bought a Ding King at Walmart, popped the dent, and took it back.. Put that check to a new Les Paul and a Marshall half stack. Jackpot! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/07/12 at 07:42:15 7E376D6774743673757E060 wrote:
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by bill67 on 04/07/12 at 07:54:30 6B22787261612366606B130 wrote:
I guess they didn't have Fenders so you had no choice. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/07/12 at 08:01:49 753C666C7F7F3D787E750D0 wrote:
I'm talking about getting a gas tank "shell" and putting in my own hardware... so you pretty much covered it, I think I'm just gonna go with a new tank shell, sand it, paint it, throw in my hardware/electronics and be happier :D Then later on when I get some "motorcycle gas tank dent repair tools" (roughly $325) I'll pop the old one and start running a side job for people with dented tanks ;) |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by x1karr0usx on 04/07/12 at 11:57:12 6B747275686F5E6E5E66747833010 wrote:
[/quote] The day I shed a tear for screwing over shitbags like Walmart will be a cold day in hell. Either way, I was giving the fellow thumper a cheap route. Take it easy cupcake. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by x1karr0usx on 04/07/12 at 12:05:24 With that said, Ding Kings generally don't work.. It will pull it out and wont be as deep, but it isn't going to snap back in place. The price to get the dent banged out and re-painted might be worth going for a new tank anyways. Though, if you are getting her bobbed, Lowbrow has some pretty gnarly tanks for cheap. I've seen the sporty tank mod and it looks nice on the savage. http://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=95 |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by runwyrlph on 04/07/12 at 15:08:34 3D742E2437377530363D450 wrote:
lol? really? I gotta back up JOG on this one. If you do things like that, it's not something to brag about. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/07/12 at 17:03:31 I would never use bondo, ever... there is no "lip" to the dent that I can feel, but I'm inexperienced... any pic I take highlights the chipped paint and makes it appear that there is... I'm just gonna find a new tank shell and swap stuff over and call it a day, and work on fixing the old one... It'll be a fun lil project.. I can't have the guys at my work pokin fun at my ride, especially when they won't even go for pink slips :D |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/07/12 at 18:05:36 Why would ya not use Bondo? PLastic body fillers are Far better than what they used to be, I built up an area on a Mack cabover over a headlight & used a welding rod for RE-bar. It went down those oil field roads for 6 years & never cracked, Nothin wrong with Bondo, tho I wouldnt use Bondo, out of a Bondo can,, that crap, leat time I tried it, got way hard, real quick,, couldnt work it,, Done properly, "Mud" , as it is affectionately called by people in the industry, will last as long as the car, IDK why you feel the way you do, but I can assure you.,I could fix that dent & youd never know it was there & it would stay fixed,, unless you dropped it on it again, then, the mud would crack,, but so what? The metal would be bent, & ity would need fixed anyway.. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by Starlifter on 04/07/12 at 18:42:13 Ever notice how if your car or bike is dented up you don't feel like washing and polishing it? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/07/12 at 19:00:41 133421322C2926342532400 wrote:
I'm anal retentive about my bike.. my car on the other hand was a cat of nine lives.. eventually killed off by 2 deers... Mazda.... they sure do make some killer engines that require no attention what so ever.... and I was a delivery person... aha.. :D |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/07/12 at 20:07:22 I knew a guy who had a mustang II in college, he loved that car, till he found out it had been bent & had some bondo on it,, still dont know how he found out,, anyway, he just lost his heart for that car.. said it was somehow "Fake" now,, you shoulda seen his face when I asked him how he felt when he looked in the mirror after his nose job healed up.. We werent such good friends after that, but thats okay,, he was fake.. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank dent removal? Post by built2last66 on 04/07/12 at 20:19:22 Did you ask him how he felt when you were sitting in your wheel chair? I can only assume he broke both your legs for rigging a mustang.. only a real man woulda... |
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