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Message started by krsanky on 04/03/12 at 14:00:06

Title: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by krsanky on 04/03/12 at 14:00:06

I must have tightened the oil drain plug too much last time.

I'm stripping the bolt using the tool bag 14mm wrench.

I stripped one position of the bolt (rounded off).

Any suggestions how to get this bolt off?

I can't fit a socket in there.


I'm tempted to have a friend come over and help me lay the bike on its side, and try with a breaker bar and a box wrench.

Is it bad to lay the bike on the muffler side?
(it would be in grass)


Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by krsanky on 04/03/12 at 14:06:24

honest i tried searching 1st :)

(i found this searching outside the forum from google)

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1259119627/15

Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by Serowbot on 04/03/12 at 15:54:18

Tip one...  don't use the toolbox wrench, get a real wrench.  Those tools are emergency tools only and not made for regular use... (they are crap)..

Tip two... don't try to muscle it loose,.. put the wrench in place, and tap the end of the wrench with a hammer.  Use short sharp taps...

;)...

Tip three... don't tighten that thing so much!... ;D...

(also,.. make sure you're turning the right way... Pushing the wrench towards the rear of the bike, right?...)...

Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/03/12 at 16:15:33

Wrench handle to front,, drive down. Get a box end on it,, & not a piece O crap one,, You may have to file off the boogered up places.
That bolt wont fly out all by itself,, it doesnt hold the axle in,, It doesnt have to be Go Rilla tight,, Leave your caveman at home,,dont take the secretary to it, but any old puter programmer can handle it.

Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by krsanky on 04/03/12 at 16:32:47

thx for tips.

i went and bought a nice single box wrench, that was small enuf to fit.
the box wrench gives more angles.

i used the box end and tapped with hammer, it worked.

after filling the oil i didn't tighten so much.
i should have gotten a new bolt, but i dont want to wait for shipping,
and only part of it is worn.

hah i *am* a computer programmer :)
anybody need some programs written?



Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by Starlifter on 04/03/12 at 17:45:43

Send for a new plug anyway, then change out the old one next oil change. They also have magnetic plugs that trap any tiny metal flakes that may be in the oil.

I threw away the junk in the on-board tool kit and replaced it with quality stainless steel emergency tools.

Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by lukeduck on 04/03/12 at 20:19:43

Oil drain plug 8.5-13 ft.#. That ain't very much. And like they said a really good wrench. Good luck.

Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by Wake51 on 04/03/12 at 23:45:32

I've learned that oil drain plugs on most vehicles tend to be more tight when removing them than when you installed them.

Had the "wtf why is this so tight? I don't think I overtightened it when I put it back..." On the Savage twice before realizing you need a little less torque than what you need.

As others have mentioned, upgrading to a magnetic plug is a good choice. I did it after my over-tighten scenario. It catches magnetic junk out of the oil and can be a good indicator of what your engine is doing between changes. Order one and wrench it in on the next change, then you can have peace of mind in replacing your partially rounded bolt.  8-)

http://www.magneticdrainplug.com/Motorcycle_Drain_Plugs/MP06.html#.T3vtG9U-ZEU

Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by krsanky on 04/04/12 at 04:24:18


http://oldcode.org/data/01-Plymouth-Duster.wav

Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by Gyrobob on 04/06/12 at 19:40:17

Magnetic drain plugs don't do any good, other than to make you feel better about buying and installing a magnetic drain plug.  If that makes you feel good, then it is money well spent.

They hardly ever do any harm, either.





                                                (here we go)

Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/06/12 at 20:07:36

Mine always has a beard on it,, maybe th filter was gonna grab it all,anyway,,

Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by Serowbot on 04/06/12 at 22:42:55

I most vociferously disagree with both sides here...

The magnet on mine does get ever so slightly bearded,..  
...but, I'm not sure that stuff's not so fine it's just lube+...
.. on the other hand,.. if that magnet ever comes loose, there'll be hell to pay..
... 'course,.. it is magnetic, so it prolly won't come loose..
...then again, why risk it...
...'cept it might be workin'...
...but, most of all,.. it's a 14mm an' the old one was 17mm,.. so I can get a box-end on it...

Hope I cleared that up for ya'.. :-?...
;)...

Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by Gyrobob on 04/07/12 at 06:53:12


4157405D45505D46320 wrote:
I most vociferously disagree with both sides here...

The magnet on mine does get ever so slightly bearded,..  
...but, I'm not sure that stuff's not so fine it's just lube+...
.. on the other hand,.. if that magnet ever comes loose, there'll be hell to pay..
... 'course,.. it is magnetic, so it prolly won't come loose..
...then again, why risk it...
...'cept it might be workin'...
...but, most of all,.. it's a 14mm an' the old one was 17mm,.. so I can get a box-end on it...

Hope I cleared that up for ya'.. :-?...
;)...



Nicely stated.  When I have had those things, they do get slightly bearded.  So what?  Not one study has ever been done that shows how bearded drain plugs give your motor more HP or longevity.  Know why?,...

There have been cases where the magnet came loose.  I haven't heard of it doing any damage, but it does increase my angst level a bit thinking there might be a chunk of something bouncing around in the bottom the crankcase.

There are two reasons you should buy one of these dealies:
1. Most folks just feel all cozy inside thinking they did something nice.  This is a good thing.
2. If, when, you change your oil, you seen chunks of stuff on the magnet,.. don't ride that bike anymore until you find out what parts are disintegrating.  You might get back on the bike after the oil change, get out on the road, and in the middle of a 60mph turn in the hills, the motor or transmission goes kablooey and locks up, tossing you down the hill.  Bad juju.

Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by Serowbot on 04/07/12 at 10:03:57

Routy agreed with me?... :-?...

Maybe I need to rethink my position...  
Difficult, because I took both sides at the same time...

Late April fools?...

Maybe Routy secretly has a Raptor?... :-?...

If Gyro or Webster agree with me,.. I'm going back to bed...

Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by Digger on 07/15/12 at 20:24:19


3A2322303F3A28510 wrote:
I must have tightened the oil drain plug too much last time.

I'm stripping the bolt using the tool bag 14mm wrench.

I stripped one position of the bolt (rounded off).

Any suggestions how to get this bolt off?....



For future reference....

My bike (see my signature line) has the 14mm-headed drain bolt.

Here is what I use to get 'er on and off:


http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/6c/6cc58d5d-fc36-4006-a3b7-40f559d87bfc_300.jpg
14mm GearWrench....it's the shizz!


IHTH someone!

Title: Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/15/12 at 21:31:36

Sure helped me! I havent felt envy all day! Ive always wanted some O them,,

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