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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1333319795 Message started by skeebo on 04/01/12 at 15:36:34 |
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Title: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 04/01/12 at 15:36:34 So anyway the scoop is ready for bodywork and paint, but I want to include some mounting points for my horn(s). Is anyone running a dual setup or such. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by Serowbot on 04/01/12 at 17:07:43 Well that is different... ... and it's pretty cool!... Those are some smooth contours. You do nice work. Wish I had that kind of skill. ;)... |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by skeebo on 04/01/12 at 17:26:30 Thanks......took a lot more time than I'll ever admit. :-/ |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by Jack_650 on 04/01/12 at 20:54:39 I suppose I'm a bit dense, or I missed something along the way, but what is the purpose of that little scoop? It looks cool as all get out but does it serve a function? Aerodynamics? Direct air up towards the engine for cooling? Hide blue LED lights for night-light shows? Jack |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/01/12 at 21:02:00 What kinda tools do you have for cutting & shaping? Got a program to help with layout? If you just started in & used a torch & tape measure & hammers & welder & grinder, if you did that 20 hours you did allrite, It looks good. It works a little like a mud flap, for bikes with no fender, |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by skeebo on 04/02/12 at 05:27:26 4E65676F5B323134040 wrote:
Functioning scoops or belly pans served to direct air flow over cooling surfaces and clean up the slipstream of of a bike. This one is more form than function, what can I say I love to fabricate and to the best of my knowledge there is nothing like this for a savage so it was a good challenge. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by skeebo on 04/02/12 at 05:33:15 5F4046415C5B6A5A6A52404C07350 wrote:
I dont have any programs, just voices in my head :D Pretty much paper templates and hand tools. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by skeebo on 04/02/12 at 05:40:24 There is plenty of room to mount an ugly horn in here, I'm researching relay setups to power one. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/02/12 at 08:50:37 & now you can take it off & use it to build a form so you can make them outta fiberglass.. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by MotoBuddha on 04/02/12 at 12:39:37 I got a dual horn wiring kit ( relays, connectors, etc.) from Eastern Beaver that I use on my Kawasaki, but I don't see it on their site anymore. If you're not an electricity moron like me, you can wire up two horns yourself. I used snail-shaped car horns and put one in the tail and one under the engine. They're very loud and get more attention than the typical beep-beep motorcycle horn. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/02/12 at 13:11:26 Go to the junkyard.. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by skeebo on 04/02/12 at 17:15:32 44667D664B7C6D6D6168090 wrote:
The snail horn is exactly what I have, I found some relay kits for about 40 bucks. Did you use the stock horn button? |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by MotoBuddha on 04/02/12 at 20:04:03 Yeah, the stock button just acts like a trigger circuit for the relay. The horns are wired directly to the battery. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/02/12 at 20:06:52 & cars have horn relays,, & horns, a 2 horn setup from a junkyard otta not cost 15 bux..relay & all.. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by skeebo on 04/02/12 at 21:28:02 091610170A0D3C0C3C04161A51630 wrote:
Exactly, The price was from my local salvage yard...horns,relays,buttons and all kinds of goodies. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/02/12 at 22:37:52 Back in the 80s the horn on my Camaro died,, only one ever I saw just Quit,, Pulled into a yard, & a gal went out & replaced it & charged me $5.00,,I shoulda asked her to a movie,, wadda dummy.. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by skeebo on 04/03/12 at 08:25:36 Forget the girl was it a Z28 ! |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/03/12 at 10:41:26 Yea, 78 model, 327, stock,, wasnt exactly a hot rod, but it sure ran smooth, started up great, handled good,, till I had new tires put on it,.long before I heard about mold release agents,, on the way back to work, hit that last corner not one bit harder than I did on the old tires,, Complete understeer, off the road, into a tree,,, Ive never stopped mourning that car,, |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Horn suggestions Post by skeebo on 04/12/12 at 12:08:01 Not a lot of progress on the scoop,I'ts painted ready for the grille. At the request of a customer I fabbed a pulley cover that gives that open look without all the drama. I like seeing the pulley but dont like how it looked unfinished, just some nice hardware and this is done. http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/523384_274286859326391_228669960554748_608783_475429043_n.jpg http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/539972_274287145993029_228669960554748_608785_1165120743_n.jpg |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 04/12/12 at 15:40:17 A better photo. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by verslagen1 on 04/12/12 at 16:08:59 I like what you did with the pulley cover, the RYCA boys should come calling for that one. 8-) |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 04/12/12 at 16:24:10 5E4D5A5B44494F4D4619280 wrote:
That would be cool...I'm doing a version in aluminum so it can be polished. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by teabowl13 on 04/12/12 at 17:10:16 Yeah man! That's really nice work... I like that pulley cover too; any chance you'd make another? and if so how much-ie? |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 04/13/12 at 08:41:49 1E2F2B28253D267B794A0 wrote:
Sent Ya A PM |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/03/12 at 13:37:10 BEEP! BEEP! |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/03/12 at 13:40:35 snail horn |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by Serowbot on 05/03/12 at 16:39:11 Can't see it very well,... which is a good thing,.. horns are ugly anyway... ;)... |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/05/12 at 17:05:24 Heres a profile shot of the scoop with the controls moved. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by EJID on 05/07/12 at 07:36:40 Skeebo, looking good! Only thing I notice about the bike overall now is there is no blue towards the rear of the bike...Almost like the fender or the rear pulley needs to be painted the same blue you've got going everywhere else. Just my opinion, but the bike looks good. 8-) |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/07/12 at 07:57:46 191615185C0 wrote:
What about blue stripes down the fender, reverse image of the tank? |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by EJID on 05/07/12 at 08:09:06 It's all just personal opinion (I'm not sure if there are blue stripes currently on the fender with the lighting) but I would probably match the blue with black stripes like the tank and chin scoop |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/07/12 at 08:21:57 27282B26620 wrote:
I'm with Ya on painting the fender blue, that would look good with a black seat. Painting some blue on the rear pulley might be to much. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/25/12 at 15:45:52 Pulley guard in aluminum, ready to be polished. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/25/12 at 15:53:06 better pic |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/25/12 at 21:12:46 Thats just some kinda allrite,, & I like the battery "box",, |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/26/12 at 13:10:00 here's another pic..... |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/26/12 at 13:37:29 Is that pulley guard one piece? Kinda looks like it, but Im not sure, Is any of it part of the stock unit? |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/26/12 at 13:48:59 6F7076716C6B5A6A5A62707C37050 wrote:
I failed with the stock one, just couldn't get the look I wanted. This is one-piece aluminum, first version was steel and multiple welded pieces, now I have my break angles figured out. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/26/12 at 13:53:21 Good JOB dude.. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by renegade1 on 05/27/12 at 00:50:00 hey skeebo, just wondering how you lowered the forks two inches and how did you do the handlebars? sorry new at this, lookin for your professional help ;D |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/27/12 at 09:07:31 5C4B404B494F4A4B1F2E0 wrote:
Fabbing the tool is the most difficult part. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;num=1187872966;start= |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/27/12 at 09:17:43 I wouldn't suggest making your own bars, 1'' drag in any finish are just to cheap. Keeping them from banging the tank means a new stop or risers, which to me risers defeat the purpose of drag bars. Stops are simple you just cant use the fork lock in MOST cases. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/27/12 at 10:02:53 Hey Skeebo, is your old stock battery box squared off or chamfered? If its square, you wanna sell it? |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/27/12 at 11:28:48 687771766B6C5D6D5D65777B30020 wrote:
I'll check mine |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/27/12 at 11:38:08 243C32323538570 wrote:
I'll check mine [/quote] Same profile,rounded at the bottom......mines a 96 |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/27/12 at 18:53:41 69717F7F78751A0 wrote:
Here's my high-tech stop, it mounts under the headlamp housing. 18 ga was the thickness I needed. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/27/12 at 18:55:53 Keeps the bars off the tank nicely. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/29/12 at 09:44:55 This is the one-piece 14 ga. aluminum version....... |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by teabowl13 on 05/29/12 at 13:38:59 48505E5E59543B0 wrote:
I would very much be pleased to be purchasing one a dem dere pulley covers!! That's a super great job you've done; whenever you're ready to do another, just let me know!! Cheers!! ;D |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 05/29/12 at 14:02:28 Got's one set aside for ya......just yell when need it. :D |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by CTeunuch on 06/05/12 at 18:36:02 Looking nice, you do some great work. What are you running for an exhaust? |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by renegade1 on 06/05/12 at 21:21:32 Skeebo i want the pulley cover and the stopper and the straight bar haha, does the stopper bolt on to stock holes or did you have to drill and tap em'? ;D |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by renegade1 on 06/06/12 at 14:26:10 just wanted to see how much you would let em go for... and what handle bar mounts are you using? |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 06/06/12 at 15:01:38 22353E353731343561500 wrote:
I can make ya up a stop no problem, they mount under the head lamp and use the same bolts, I'll send you a PM and we can sweat the details. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 06/06/12 at 15:19:35 0C1B2A3A213A2C274F0 wrote:
I was running a dyna but the smaller slash cut will work around my mid controls better. http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/380316_311807015574375_865154662_n.jpg http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/196155_311806382241105_1031122166_n.jpg |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by CTeunuch on 06/06/12 at 18:44:28 What's that turndown in the second picture from? That's the look I'm going for. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 06/06/12 at 19:15:16 7B6C5D4D564D5B50380 wrote:
Found this muffler at the salvage yard. It has harley davidson stamped into it, if you rotate the slash cut out you'll see the logo. Someone here found the same one on ebay and had the part no. http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/547678_311806485574428_123226462_n.jpg |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by renegade1 on 06/06/12 at 20:01:46 hey man just wondering should i take off the exhaust to tape it? and do i have to get another exhaust gasket or is it possible to re-use it? :o chances are new one right. haha |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 06/06/12 at 20:17:15 70676C676563666733020 wrote:
You shouldn't have any problem with the gasket just taking the header off to wrap it.....you'l know if it's leaking... :o |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by renegade1 on 06/07/12 at 00:12:02 haha you speak the truth buddy. sorry to mention it again but if i lower those forks the two inches like you've posted somewhere that i have to find again, will i be able to just do it then ride or is there anything i have to worry about as in handlebar clearence? ;D |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by teabowl13 on 06/07/12 at 09:29:30 HEY RENEGADE... Lowering your forks shouldn't change anything about your handlebars at all. Here's the Blog post from Chop Cult that shows a great how-to. They lowered the forks way more than 2", which I probably wouldn't do, it'll give you hardly any travel at all, but they were building a super-low Bobber, so that's what they were after... The Ryca guys have a PDF guide and video on their website also if you search their technical documents. http://www.chopcult.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7129 HEY SKEEBO! I'm ready for my pulley guard any time now. Just send me some payment instructions and the money is all yours! ;) ;) ;) |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 06/07/12 at 12:01:38 2D3A313A383E3B3A6E5F0 wrote:
Drop the forks and your rolling, the brake line may be long but you can live with that if you don't want to buy a shorter one right away, just wait till you do a brake job, change the line and bleed the brakes. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by renegade1 on 06/07/12 at 18:32:53 gotta do my front brake pads anyways wait utnill then you figure, i wonder the length i should get and possible just be able to get them at any bike shop???? and skeebo i see what you mean you couldnt get the look you wanted for your pulley cover i took my belt cover off last night and saw that peice you cant cut it and make it look nice hahaha ;D |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by renegade1 on 06/07/12 at 18:39:46 How do i space them though there using a laithe(spelt wrong probably) is there anything else that i can use that you know of and outside diameter and inside diameter would help also ;)?? |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 06/07/12 at 19:40:47 31262D262422272672430 wrote:
I couldn't get the look cause I ran out of talent and screwed it all up...just as well making one from scratch let's me get a 4 inch hole centered and I use different mounting points which gives the top a lower profile hax4 |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by renegade1 on 06/08/12 at 00:14:27 oh i see, i need to get metal work tools dont have any of those yet haha |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by SimonTuffGuy on 06/12/12 at 19:07:42 http://www.pimptiva.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=4877&g2_serialNumber=2 http://www.pimptiva.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=4880&g2_serialNumber=2 Pulley guard came in this afternoon and it looks slick. I need to polish it up, but it's staying on there for now. Certainly a much better look than stock with that belt guard removed. From seeing the pictures of it up close... here would be my only suggestion. Is it possible to recess the mounting points, similar to that of the stock cover? I'm not sure how you'd do it out of 1 piece without welding something in place... But it might finish the look instead of having those bolts sticking out as they do now. Also - Is there any need to fill the holes that are not being used now? I can't see any reason that they would need to be, but just want to be sure. Looking forward to some additional parts from you in the future. :) |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by teabowl13 on 06/12/12 at 19:49:57 THAT LOOKS GREAT! I can't wait to get mine in the mail... Then again, I can't wait to get my bike back so I have something to put it on! |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 06/12/12 at 20:05:33 Wow! that was fast, the other hole is just for the stock cover. I like your Idea of recessing the bolts. I'm working out a simple flaring tool right now. I guess I'll have to send ya a new one.. ;) |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/12 at 21:16:40 Would studs with acorn nuts be a good step? |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by verslagen1 on 06/12/12 at 21:18:14 I'd go with button allen heads myself, black or polished, either way. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/12/12 at 21:22:39 3C2F3839262B2D2F247B4A0 wrote:
& when I saw your answer, Id slap myself in the forehead.. better answer.. no socket marks on the aluminum that way.,no flats to get dirty.. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by Cavi Mike on 06/12/12 at 23:17:18 Just counter-sink the holes and use flush-head screws. A flare would be total overkill. Use an 82degree c'sink to leave as much material as possible. I've never actually went looking for an 82deg c'sink since they're so common in a machine shop but I can't imagine they'd be hard to find. I'm willing to bet even Harbor Freight has them. Has anyone with a chain conversion put one of these on their bike? I'd love to see what it looks like. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by renegade1 on 06/13/12 at 00:07:50 hey cavi, i KNOW i have seen a thread for the chain conversion and man it looks awsome, just tried to find it again but couldnt, i'll keep lookin and post it on this page |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by Cavi Mike on 06/13/12 at 02:47:42 Search for "chain coversion" and you'll find it. The titled was misspelled. I already have my sprockets and a nice gold x-ring chain, I'm just wondering if this cover will look right. The hole in the side frames the pulley beautifully but a sprocket looks much different. Could you do some other designs or maybe just leave the hole out of it and I'll have my way with it? |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by teabowl13 on 06/13/12 at 06:40:42 Here's the link top the chain "COVERSION" thread... http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1174239333 I haven't seen anyone else using this pulley cover with the chain conversion, but that's my plan; it's gonna be a while though; rest of the bike is still in pieces two states away. Hoping to get it back up here next weekend... |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 06/13/12 at 08:33:39 Here's a battery tray portion of project for clearush, same material as the pulley cover, countersunk fasteners. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by SimonTuffGuy on 06/13/12 at 10:34:26 Mmmm.... Countersunk goodness! That looks awesome. :) |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by renegade1 on 06/13/12 at 20:24:47 hey skeebo will this do for my bike ???? http://www.westendmotorsports.com/drag-specialties-forged-aluminum-black-risers-straight-inch-shown-chrome-p-24100.html if so where the heck do i get the straight bars and then im going to need to get your stopper. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 06/14/12 at 17:53:38 For bars check lowbrow customs or dime city cycles to start, are you wanting taller risers than stock? |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by renegade1 on 06/15/12 at 08:06:17 i want them as low as possible with drag bars, how did you apply your bars? |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 06/15/12 at 09:02:15 I use the stock risers, my bars are flat with 5 degrees of backsweep and are 28 inches wide. If your risers are lower than stock your controls wont work unless the bars are wide and that's not a LaneSplitter now is it........all you need is basic 1 inch flat bars with a backsweep around 5 degrees any width that you like with the controls where you like them. Once you get there I can show you how to measure for a stop and I'll bend ya one up. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by renegade1 on 06/16/12 at 00:24:36 your the man skeebo |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by Scott_H on 06/18/12 at 10:33:45 skeebo, I sent you a PM regarding a pulley/belt guard. |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by skeebo on 06/18/12 at 11:19:38 3A683B23343134500 wrote:
Scott.....shoot me an email it's more reliable......later |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by KennyG on 09/20/12 at 22:04:40 hey man just wondering should i take off the exhaust to tape it? and do i have to get another exhaust gasket or is it possible to re-use it? chances are new one right. haha If the gasket is a copper ring you can anneal it and re-use it. Simply heat with a blow torch until it is cherry red and then toss it in a bucket of water. That should soften the gasket enough to re-use it. :) |
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Title: Re: CHIN SCOOP / Pulley-Belt Guard Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/20/12 at 23:14:06 Just be careful with it, Ive had mine out & re used, looks like a tin foil , thick walled tube, crushes , fills the gaps, pretty resilient as gaskets go,. |
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