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Title: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not bad. Post by Stimpy - FSO on 03/24/12 at 18:02:04 How to convert MPG miles per gallon to litre per 100 km http://www.pege.org/fuel/convert.htm * 1 - KEEWAY 125 Speed (>06) 2.29 L / 100 km * 2 - HONDA CBF 125 (>09) * 2.63 L / 100 km * 3 - YAMAHA YBR 125 (>10) 2.80 L / 100 km * 4 - DAELIM 125 Solution (>06) 3.00 L / 100 km * 5 - HONDA CG 125 (75-01) 3.00 L / 100 km * 6 - KEEWAY 125 Superlight (>08) 3.00 L / 100 km * 7 - SYM XS 125 (>07) * 3.00 L / 100 km * 8 - YAMAHA WR125X (>09) 3.00 L / 100 km * 9 - SUZUKI TU 125 (99-01) * 3.00 L / 100 km * 10 - SUZUKI DR 125 SM (>08) 3.07 L / 100 km * 11 - YAMAHA YBR 125 Diversion (06-10) * 3.09 L / 100 km * 12 - SYM Wolf 125 (05-07) 3.11 L / 100 km * 13 - YAMAHA YBR 125 (05-09) * 3.11 L / 100 km * 14 - YAMAHA YZF-R125 (>08) * 3.13 L / 100 km * 15 - YAMAHA YBR 125 Custom (>08) 3.17 L / 100 km * 16 - HONDA CBR 250 R (>11) 3.17 L / 100 km * 17 - HONDA CBR 125 R (07-11) * 3.24 L / 100 km * 18 - YAMAHA XV 240 - XV 250 Virago (89-98) 3.30 L / 100 km * 19 - SUZUKI GN 125 (97-03) * 3.30 L / 100 km * 20 - KYMCO 125 Zing (97-04) * 3.35 L / 100 km * 21 - YAMAHA SR 125 (82-03) * 3.35 L / 100 km * 22 - YAMAHA YBR250 (>07) * 3.36 L / 100 km * 23 - SKYTEAM Dax 125 (>05) 3.38 L / 100 km * 24 - KYMCO 125 Quannon Naked (>09) 3.38 L / 100 km * 25 - HONDA XR 125 L (03-07) * 3.38 L / 100 km * 26 - DAELIM 125 Daystar SI (>07) 3.39 L / 100 km * 27 - SUZUKI GZ 125 Marauder (98-05) * 3.39 L / 100 km * 28 - KYMCO CK 125 Pulsar (03-05) * 3.40 L / 100 km * 29 - HONDA CLR 125 Cityfly (99-03) * 3.40 L / 100 km * 30 - HONDA CG 125 (>04) * 3.40 L / 100 km * 31 - DAELIM VS 125 (97-04) 3.43 L / 100 km * 32 - SUZUKI RV 125 VanVan (>03) * 3.43 L / 100 km * 33 - YAMAHA XT 125 R (05-07) * 3.47 L / 100 km * 34 - SUZUKI DF 125 (99-01) 3.50 L / 100 km * 35 - YAMAHA XVS 125 Dragstar (00-04) * 3.50 L / 100 km * 36 - HONDA NX 250 (88-96) * 3.50 L / 100 km * 37 - DAELIM Altino 100 (99-04) 3.50 L / 100 km * 38 - KAWASAKI EL 125 Eliminator (98-07) * 3.50 L / 100 km * 39 - HONDA CA 125 Rebel (97-03) * 3.53 L / 100 km * 40 - HONDA XL 125 R (82-99) * 3.54 L / 100 km * 41 - KAWASAKI KLX 250 (>09) 3.60 L / 100 km * 42 - KYMCO 125 Quannon (>07) * 3.62 L / 100 km * 43 - SUZUKI DR 125 SE (94-03) * 3.62 L / 100 km * 44 - KYMCO 125 Sector (99-04) 3.63 L / 100 km * 45 - HONDA NX 125 Transcity (88-99) * 3.68 L / 100 km * 46 - HONDA XL 125V Varadero (>07) * 3.69 L / 100 km * 47 - YAMAHA Tricker 250 (>05) 3.70 L / 100 km * 48 - HYOSUNG RT 125 D Karion (>07) * 3.75 L / 100 km * 49 - DERBI Mulhacén 125 4T (>07) 3.75 L / 100 km * 50 - JINLUN Highlander 125 * 3.76 L / 100 km * 51 - DAELIM 125 Daystar (>00) * 3.78 L / 100 km * 52 - YAMAHA XT 125 X (05-07) * 3.82 L / 100 km * 53 - YAMAHA WR250R (>08) 3.83 L / 100 km * 54 - DERBI Senda Terra 125 4T (>07) * 3.83 L / 100 km * 55 - HYOSUNG XRX 125 (>03) * 3.85 L / 100 km * 56 - MZ 125 RT (00-08) * 3.85 L / 100 km * 57 - HONDA CM 125 Custom (CMC) (82-03) * 3.85 L / 100 km * 58 - HONDA CBR 125 R (04-06) * 3.85 L / 100 km * 59 - SUZUKI TU 250 Volty (97-01) * 3.86 L / 100 km * 60 - SUZUKI GN 250 (93-97) 3.88 L / 100 km * 61 - YAMAHA XV 125 Virago (SP) (97-01) * 3.88 L / 100 km * 62 - DERBI Senda Baja 125 4T (>07) 3.90 L / 100 km * 63 - MZ 125 SM (01-08) * 3.92 L / 100 km * 64 - YAMAHA TW 125 (98-06) * 3.93 L / 100 km * 65 - SUZUKI VL 125 Intruder (00-06) * 3.93 L / 100 km * 66 - KYMCO 125 Hipster (>01) 3.93 L / 100 km * 67 - KYMCO 125 Stryker on/off road (99-04) 3.94 L / 100 km * 68 - DERBI Mulhacén 125 Café (>08) 4.00 L / 100 km * 69 - HONDA NC 700 X (>12) 4.00 L / 100 km * 70 - DAELIM VT 125 (98-04) * 4.04 L / 100 km * 71 - DAELIM 125 Roadwin / Inj (>04) * 4.05 L / 100 km * 72 - BMW G 650 Xcountry (>07) * 4.05 L / 100 km * 73 - SACHS Roadster V2 125 (99-05) 4.07 L / 100 km * 74 - HONDA XL 125 V Varadero (01-06) * 4.08 L / 100 km * 75 - HONDA VT 125 C Shadow (99-07) * 4.08 L / 100 km * 76 - KAWASAKI Ninja 250R (>08) * 4.12 L / 100 km * 77 - HYOSUNG RT 125 Karion (>03) * 4.14 L / 100 km * 78 - CAGIVA 125 Roadster (94-01) 4.17 L / 100 km * 79 - LEONART 125 Daytona 4.17 L / 100 km * 80 - HYOSUNG GF 125 (03-05) 4.21 L / 100 km * 81 - YAMAHA SR 500 (78-98) 4.25 L / 100 km * 82 - HYOSUNG GT 125 R Comet (>06) * 4.27 L / 100 km * 83 - DAELIM 125 Roadsport R (>07) * 4.30 L / 100 km * 84 - HYOSUNG GT 125 Comet (>03) * 4.39 L / 100 km * 85 - BMW F 650 CS Scarver (01-05) * 4.39 L / 100 km * 86 - HONDA VT 750 S (>10) 4.42 L / 100 km * 87 - BMW F 650 GS/Dakar (>00) * 4.43 L / 100 km * 88 - HYOSUNG GV 125 Aquila (>03) * 4.47 L / 100 km * 89 - DERBI Terra Adventure 125 (>08) 4.50 L / 100 km * 90 - BMW F 650 GS (bicylindre) (>08) * 4.50 L / 100 km * 91 - BMW G 650 Xmoto (>07) 4.50 L / 100 km * 92 - BMW F 800 ST (>06) * 4.59 L / 100 km * 93 - KAWASAKI EL 250 Eliminator (91-96) 4.63 L / 100 km * 94 - JINLUN V-Twin 250 4.67 L / 100 km * 95 - HARLEY-DAVIDSON XL 883 C Custom 53 (99-00) 4.67 L / 100 km * 96 - BMW F 800 S (>06) * 4.70 L / 100 km * 97 - SUZUKI DR 350 S/E (95-99) * 4.73 L / 100 km * 98 - SUZUKI GS 500 F (04-07) * 4.80 L / 100 km * 99 - KTM 690 Duke R (>09) 4.80 L / 100 km * 100 - BMW F 800 GS (>08) * 4.80 L / 100 km * 101 - YAMAHA XT660Z Ténéré (>08) * 4.89 L / 100 km * 102 - KAWASAKI W 650 (98-06) * 4.92 L / 100 km * 103 - KAWASAKI 250 Estrella (99-00) 4.92 L / 100 km * 104 - BUELL X1 Lightning - White Lightning (99-02) * 4.95 L / 100 km * 105 - BMW F 800 R (09-11) * 4.99 L / 100 km * 106 - KAWASAKI VN 900 Custom (>07) 5.00 L / 100 km * 107 - KAWASAKI 300 KLX R (97-07) 5.00 L / 100 km * 108 - BMW F 650 ST (97-00) 5.00 L / 100 km * 109 - YAMAHA XVS950A Midnight Star (>09) 5.00 L / 100 km * 110 - HONDA VT 500 C (83-86) 5.00 L / 100 km * 111 - MOTO GUZZI V7 Classic (>08) 5.00 L / 100 km * 112 - HARLEY-DAVIDSON XL 883 Sportster (00-03) 5.00 L / 100 km * 113 - KTM 690 Enduro (08-11) 5.00 L / 100 km * 114 - SUZUKI LS 650 Savage (93-00) * 5.04 L / 100 km * 115 - KAWASAKI 650 Versys (>10) 5.06 L / 100 km * 116 - YAMAHA XT 660 R (>04) * 5.09 L / 100 km * 117 - MOTO GUZZI 750 Breva Ie (>03) * 5.09 L / 100 km * 118 - HONDA VT 750 DC Shadow Spirit / C-ABS (07-11) 5.10 L / 100 km * 119 - KAWASAKI ER-6 N (09-11) * 5.12 L / 100 km * 120 - HONDA VT 600 Shadow (95-01) * 5.14 L / 100 km * 121 - HARLEY-DAVIDSON XL 883/R/Low inj. (>06) 5.17 L / 100 km * 122 - KAWASAKI 650 Versys (07-09) * 5.18 L / 100 km * 123 - HARLEY-DAVIDSON XL 883 Sportster/R/Low (04-06) * 5.21 L / 100 km * 124 - HONDA CB 500 S (98-03) * 5.21 L / 100 km * 125 - KTM 640 LC4 Adventure / R (97-07) 5.21 L / 100 km * 126 - YAMAHA SRX 600 (SRX-6) (86-90) * 5.23 L / 100 km * 127 - HARLEY-DAVIDSON XL 883 R Sportster R (01-03) * 5.23 L / 100 km * 128 - HARLEY-DAVIDSON XL 883 N Sportster Iron (>09) * 5.23 L / 100 km * 129 - HONDA CB 500 (96-03) * 5.25 L / 100 km * 130 - MOTO GUZZI 1100 California Classic (>06) 5.25 L / 100 km * 131 - HONDA VT 750 C Shadow (00-01) 5.25 L / 100 km * 132 - YAMAHA TT 600 RE (03-05) 5.25 L / 100 km * 133 - APRILIA 125 Classic (95-01) 5.25 L / 100 km * 134 - KAWASAKI ER-5 (97-06) * 5.25 L / 100 km * 135 - SUZUKI DL 650 V-Strom (03-11) * 5.26 L / 100 km * 136 - KTM 690 SM (07-10) * 5.26 L / 100 km * 137 - SUZUKI M 800 Intruder (>05) 5.29 L / 100 km * 138 - HONDA VT 750 DC BLack Widow (00-03) 5.30 L / 100 km * 139 - KAWASAKI VN 800 Drifter (99-02) * 5.32 L / 100 km * 140 - KAWASAKI VN 900 Classic (>06) * 5.33 L / 100 km * 141 - BMW K 75 S (86-96) 5.33 L / 100 km * 142 - BMW R 1200 ST (05-07) * 5.33 L / 100 km * 143 - SUZUKI DR-Z 400 SM France (04) * 5.35 L / 100 km * 144 - KAWASAKI GPZ 500 S (94-05) * 5.37 L / 100 km * 145 - KAWASAKI ER-6 F (09-11) * 5.37 L / 100 km * 146 - KTM 690 Duke (08-11) * 5.38 L / 100 km * 147 - MOTO GUZZI 750 Nevada (00-04) 5.38 L / 100 km * 148 - KAWASAKI 650 KLX R (93-02) 5.38 L / 100 km * 149 - DUCATI 620 Monster Ie Special (01-03) 5.40 L / 100 km * 150 - KAWASAKI ER-6 N (05-08) * 5.40 L / 100 km * 151 - HONDA XL 600 V Transalp (98-99) * 5.40 L / 100 km ......... # 861 - MV AGUSTA F4 S 1000 1+1 (>04) 9.33 L / 100 km # 862 - BENELLI 1130 TNT (01-10) 9.33 L / 100 km # 863 - MV AGUSTA F4 1000 9.40 L / 100 km # 864 - HONDA VTX 1800 C (01-04) 9.43 L / 100 km # 865 - BENELLI 1130 Cafe Racer (>01) 9.50 L / 100 km # 866 - APRILIA 250 RS (96-02) 9.94 L / 100 km # 867 - SUZUKI RG 500 Gamma (85-89) 9.94 L / 100 km # 868 - SUZUKI RGV 250 (88-97) 10.00 L / 100 km # 869 - MV AGUSTA 750 S Brutale (03-05) * 10.59 L / 100 km http://maxitest.moto-station.com/moto/consommation/ (links ARE clickable for more info on that bike) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3560/3367193768_f580ab37a8.jpg |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by Serowbot on 03/24/12 at 18:34:47 ...and heck fire... they've got us at 46mpg... My mileage (62mpg average) would put us at about #52 in the list... (30 places ahead of the nearest 500+ engine.)... Buhahahahhh!.... :-?... |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by Tonydtiger1971 on 03/24/12 at 20:06:23 Hmm, interesting. I'm getting about 58 mpg outta my 950 and close to that with my Savage. |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by Stimpy - FSO on 03/28/12 at 12:21:54 3721362B33262B30440 wrote:
Arizona? Sure, warm n' toasty + no humidity and close to sea level oxygen levels, sure, hella efficient combustion! I remember comparing my MPG between SoCal (dryish sea level) and more humid places with heights of 5000-7000 feet and the difference was dramatic, even had to rejet the savage once! (too rich) |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by cornfuzed on 03/28/12 at 14:05:57 :o :o An HD 883 beats the Savage? :o :o |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by cornfuzed on 03/28/12 at 14:12:16 Yikes! ;D My RoyalStar is ranked 530!!! ;D ;D ...awesome... |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by MMRanch on 03/28/12 at 21:32:15 Tony Your 950 what ? I just love high MPG ... more and more all the time ! |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by babyhog on 03/29/12 at 05:55:42 And why is it only '93-'00 years? :-/ |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by Stimpy - FSO on 03/30/12 at 01:38:18 6261606D6F750C0 wrote:
don't know, oldish list from france or something, I think the newer S40's are even more efficient. Are the new 2012 models fuel injected? |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by Fish on 04/08/12 at 08:07:45 Get rid of all those little 125cc scoots and we get close to the top. I really need to rebuild my carb, rejet, and replace my muffler. I should be getting better than barely 42mpg. Although most of my riding is in the city of Tampa, and I'm hard on the throttle. Even on my highway trips across the state I top out at maybe 45mpg. |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by verslagen1 on 04/08/12 at 10:33:50 eliminating any thing less than a 250 and putting in a real factory tuned '96 mpg of 55mpg brings us up to 14th 8-) |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by MMRanch on 04/08/12 at 22:43:34 Yea Versey I got 63 mpg on the first tank full after rebuilding (Kinda - taking it easy). I only left .002" between the cylinder and piston and was just waiting for it to "gall-up". but it didn't ! :) |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by mpescatori on 04/18/12 at 01:50:36 I have two bikes, which rate at 5.04 (Savage) and 5.38 (BMW) liters/100 Km. To convert into mpg(US) do 100/[rated figure] and multiply that by 2.4; example: Savage rated at 5.04 liters/100 Km. 100/5.04 = 19.84 Km/liter x 2.4 = 47.6 mpg. Truth of the matter is, my real mileage is more like : - Savage, 17.5 Km/liter => 42 mpg in city driving; - BMW 1200 16 Km/liter => 38 mpg in city driving. Mind you, city driving in Rome is not like city driving in the US: City driving in Rome http://www.okroma.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/traffico-roma.jpg http://www.democraziakmzero.org/files/2011/09/traffico3.jpg >:( City driving in the US : Atlanta (man, I wish I had that much space for splitting lanes!) and Denver (you call THAT "crowded"?) ::) http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd284/galounger/streets/GDOT-CAM-011.jpg http://ak6.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/919897/preview/stock-footage-crowded-morning-traffic-in-denver-colorado-with-slow-pan-down-hd-p.jpg So, 42mpg in my kind of traffic and the Savage is really really a gas-sipper !!! ;) |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/18/12 at 02:23:36 If I sit thru 2 cycles of a red lite I about lose my mind,, I ( gee,, Hate,, ? Naaah,, not strong enough,, gotta be a better word out there somewhere,, ) DEspise heavy traffic,, I feel smothered, I get nervous, I dont even like driving thru Dallas & theres rarely much of a slowdown, just keeping up with all those moving bumpers,, uggghhh! Too danged much pressure, That looks perfectly miserable Pesci.. |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by Stimpy - FSO on 04/18/12 at 05:02:17 I lived some years ago in a mega city of 22 million inhabitants, and I took my savage with me, hehe. and I LOVED IT! the savage is as thin as any city 125cc but with that much torque it could outrun/pass ANY vehicle, at the green light for example, even outran a cop car once. Also since its so light and low it hops on and off the sidewalk effortlessly as well as jumps lane dividers and islands. I could cross the city tip to tip in 45minutes flat, in a car this would take anywhere from 2 to 4 hours depending on traffic. Man those where god times. 8-) |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by mpescatori on 04/18/12 at 06:54:03 756A6C6B7671407040786A662D1F0 wrote:
Yes, we strive to achieve perfection... :-? http://www.lavocedimanduria.it/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/traffico-cittadino.jpeg http://static.blogo.it/happyblog/traffico_ingorgo.jpg Videos Rome : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfkper_maltempo-traffico-in-tilt-e-allagamenti_news?search_algo=1 (this IS my way to work) Naples : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xn4c5t_napoli-corso-umberto-seconda-strada-piu-trafficata-d-italia-caos-e-ingorghi-napoli-seconda-dopo-mila_news?search_algo=1 Venice : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaf6hx_venezia-in-15-minuti_people?search_algo=1 ;) Now, back to that perfection thing... ::) Lemmessee... perfection... :D Oh ! I know ! Perfection !!! http://www.niccololapidari.com/uploaded_images/bici-705778.jpg I meant the hair, what did you think ? ;D ;D ;D 8-) |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 04/19/12 at 08:23:44 Stimpy - Unless I misread your post, your facts are wrong. All internal combustion engines, both piston and turbines, require a fairly constant ratio of fuel to air in the fuel mixture going into the combustion chamber. So, your car and your bike get better mileage when the air is thinner, since to maintain the ratio, when less air is coming into the engine, less fuel must also. That's why you get better mileage in the summer - warm air is less dense than cold air, hence you use less fuel to maintain the ratio. Same goes for humid days when water molecules displace air molecules in the "air", and the air is less dense. That's why airplanes fly as high as practical - ever taken a fairly short airline trip and noticed that the airplane still climbs high, and then cruises there for a short while, and then descends? We do than for fuel savings - the higher we go, the less dense the air is, and the less fuel we burn. Also, Arizona isn't close to sea level - most of the state is high desert. |
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Title: Re: MPG - Hey! we are #114 out of 900 bikes, not b Post by Stimpy - FSO on 04/19/12 at 11:19:17 Yeah, I might have explained my self a bit ambiguously, so yes of course, air density is a key factor to millage, this is the atmospheric-molecular equivalent of efficiency by punching a smaller hole through (aka: aerodynamics). However oxygen concentration is as important a factor as air density or power to weight ratio; most automobiles (and modern bikes) have oxygen sensors built right into the fuel injection system, older tech carb bikes, like the savage do not, that's why we adjust and re-jet, simply "giving it less gas" won't do. At higher elevations oxygen molecules are less abundant, therefore combustion could become too rich. I use to sometimes run around the Yuma area and the savage felt like it was running on pure NOS continuously, just amazing! this area is dry, very hot and quite close to sea level and also has several large oxygen sources close by, this is a bit like how ram-air turbochargers work. In San Diego one could feel slight changes in combustion behavior and MPGs between warm summer days and wet winter rides and also when climbing, lets say, up to alpine (2000ft elev) or Big Bear lake (+6000ft elev). Years later living at over 7000ft elevation these same carb settings where a complete mess and engine efficiency was lagging, specially on wet days, so I rejeted this way making my mix a lot thinner, problem solved. |
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