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Message started by built2last66 on 03/22/12 at 18:53:21

Title: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by built2last66 on 03/22/12 at 18:53:21

Is their any proof that mineral spirits will eat up or destroy your motorcycle tires? I've been using it clean up road gunk and chain grease on my sickle, and cleaning the rims I've gotten a
lot on my tires.. some people say this, and some people say that.. I know it ate right through my latex gloves.. but is there any real proof of it destroying rubber?

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/22/12 at 22:39:08

mineral spirits bad tires


search term

I didnt see any horror stories.. you shyould have a look.

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by built2last66 on 03/23/12 at 04:01:03

I did some research.. it's kinda up and and down.. some labels recommend cleaning rubber with it before painting..

Mineral spirits sure does clean up chain grease though.. that sticky white grease that won't wash off

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by WD on 03/23/12 at 06:30:53

As long as it isn't allowed to soak in it "should" be relatively safe to use. Same for turpentine (made from pine sap) and acetone. I used to use all 3 at times on white wall or raised white letter tires, but turpentine tended to turn the white to tan and the black to a dull mud color.

When I was riding my old VN800A daily (44K miles in 18 months worth), year round, lubing the crap out of the chain I didn't use an aerosol chain lube. Lithium grease cut with just enough white gas (Coleman stove fuel) to let it get runny enough to apply via small mustard bottle. The mix soaks in, the gas flashes off, the grease stays in place longer. It does still get funky, but doesn't go everywhere like the spray lube does. Works best on standard style chains, for o-ring chains 3 in 1 oil is fine.

My 63 Honda's drive chain seems to soak up any chain lube I put on it. Right now is coated in NAPA aerosol topped with white lithium spray grease. Chain is older than I am and still flexes/rolls fine.

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by Africord on 03/23/12 at 07:29:12

While my wife's 02 Savage doesn't have this problem.  I avoid this on my 02 VFR800 by using Maxima Chain Wax.  If I let the bike sit for 20 minutes, it doesn't through much of anything off the chain, which keeps the whole bike pretty clean!

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by Routy on 03/24/12 at 07:44:22

I have proof that it won't,....my own experience. Mineral spirits is the cheapest most non flamable of all thinners and solvents. I don't think it will hurt anything, certainly not any plastic or rubber. I've used it on everything, including my glasses to get spray paint off them.
But don't even think about comparing it to laquer thiner, much less acetone,......which will melt even some of the best plastics !

On edit, I read about mineral spirits eating thru latex gloves ??
I said,....wait just a minute, either we are talking a different mineral spirits, or a different latex glove ! Not believeing this, I stole a glove from DW and tried to get it on,.....it was way too small but I finally got it stretched on (my hand that is!) went to the shop, dumped some MSs on it, and it didn't even come close to attacking the latex. After 10 minutes, I dumped some Laquer thinner on it, and it too did not melt the laytex. After more time, it did feel like the laquer thinner may have made the latex a little sticky, but never did eat thru or tear the maximum stretched latex.
Others experience may differ ? I doubt it.

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by built2last66 on 03/24/12 at 10:09:35

Using automotive latex gloves the mineral spirit first dipples the gloves, then the gloves will tear if stretched any... kinda crystalizes the rubber... this is after using it with the gloves on and a soaked shop cloth for arond 30 minutes or so...

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/24/12 at 13:46:40

But how much latex is in a tire? Id take a chunk of an old tire & drop it in a jar with some Spirits in it & put a lid on it..

I used to sell plastic pipe. One customer made sulfuric acid & they went thru a lot of plumbing. Then, I laid hands on some PVDF pipe. It was about $6.00 a foot for 1/2" pipe back in the 80's, I gave them a hunk to torture test & it passed. I sold them quite a bit.. :)
I heard that was what the shuttle was plumbed with,,IDK, but it didnt hurt sales,,

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by built2last66 on 03/24/12 at 15:34:33

It ate the crap out of those latex gloves... might not be any latex in tires, but that wasn't the original question  :D

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by verslagen1 on 03/24/12 at 15:54:03

http://www.ferrarichat.com/velostrada/issues/200507/04DetailingDynamics_Caring_for.htm

google is a wonderful thing.   8-)

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by built2last66 on 03/24/12 at 16:02:57


372433322D2026242F70410 wrote:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/velostrada/issues/200507/04DetailingDynamics_Caring_for.htm

google is a wonderful thing.   8-)


I've already googled it.. I just wanted more input.. because "stripping away" and "totally destroying" are 2 different things... anyhow, I think I'm just not gonna let any of the nuts touch my tires and be on the safe side...

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by Retread on 03/24/12 at 16:16:09

I just wouldn't get that stuff even close to the condom supply.......... :o  I have always used SOS pads on my tires, leaves em looking new...

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by Routy on 03/24/12 at 20:29:20


23302726393432303B64550 wrote:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/velostrada/issues/200507/04DetailingDynamics_Caring_for.htm

Quote:
If you choose a solvent based dressing, choose one with a highly refined grade mineral spirit; this allows it to dry quickly before it can attack the protective waxes and polymers.
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Yep, its wonderful ! Plainly says it won't hurt a  thing.

But who says google knows anything ? :o

Myself, ?? I have always washed grease/oil off tires w/ gasoline, much much harsher than mineral spirits, and it never hurt anything either. Like said, any of it dries so fast its not even worth discussing anyhow. But,......what is it,.....if it feels good do it ??

google is a wonderful thing.   8-)


Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/24/12 at 23:06:49


5245595C44025C5143440606300 wrote:
It ate the crap out of those latex gloves... might not be any latex in tires, but that wasn't the original question  :D




Is their any proof that mineral spirits will eat up or destroy your motorcycle tires?


. might not be any latex in tires, but that wasn't the original question


so why are we talking about what it does to latex as if that were relevant?

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by built2last66 on 03/25/12 at 04:30:32


405F595E43447545754D5F53182A0 wrote:
[quote author=5245595C44025C5143440606300 link=1332467601/0#8 date=1332628473]It ate the crap out of those latex gloves... might not be any latex in tires, but that wasn't the original question  :D




Is their any proof that mineral spirits will eat up or destroy your motorcycle tires?


. might not be any latex in tires, but that wasn't the original question


so why are we talking about what it does to latex as if that were relevant?
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I was just saying that it ate the nuts out of my latex gloves.. I don't think my tires have been damaged, they're Metzeler ME 880s and have pretty thick sidewalls.. but they're brand new... would suck to ruin 'em..

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by Routy on 03/25/12 at 05:55:45

Quote:
so why are we talking about what it does to latex as if that were relevant?
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Probably because I was kinda disputin the statement made about mineral spirits eating up latex gloves.
And I still think we are talkin about something different than plain ole mineral spitits and genuine latex gloves.

Seems like someone would have googled it by now ! ::)

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by built2last66 on 03/25/12 at 08:33:48

There's more then 1 search engine.. you guys should all get over google :D

I'll post some pics of my automotive latex gloves ate up later on when I clean up my tools with my stuff:

http://www.lowes.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&cId=SEARCH&productId=3024045&cm_mmc=SCE_gps-_-gps-_-gps-_-Crown%20Gallon%20Low%20Odor%20Mineral%20Spirits&CAWELAID=1024102541

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by verslagen1 on 03/25/12 at 09:11:36

google is a accepted verb, means to look it up on the internet, non search engine specific.

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by built2last66 on 03/25/12 at 09:24:48

Do you call your local flea market Ebay?

Title: Re: Mineral Spirits and Rubber tires
Post by Routy on 03/27/12 at 15:57:56

I was going to go soak a latex glove in mineral spirits for a week or 3, but I got better things to do,.....trouble is I ain't doin those either !

But all I read on every mineral spirits site, is the advice to use rubber/latex gloves to protect hands.

Real reason for the post is how I just remembered how yrs ago we used to make tires nice and black lookin. Brake fluid ! Thats right, rubbing brake fluid on the tires made them look better than some of the commercial stuff. But it supposedly wasn't good for tires at all, mainly because it actually attacked the rubber, and thats why it made them so black. But I don't remember it ruining any tires, or causing the sidewalls to crack, or any thing else. So I conclude that if brake fluid didn't ruin them, mineral spirits sure ain't going too.

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