SuzukiSavage.com /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Backfire and wont start /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1331809544 Message started by rodeoclown on 03/15/12 at 04:05:43

Title: Backfire and wont start Post by rodeoclown on 03/15/12 at 04:05:43 went to take my bike out last night after work to go around the block.Got about 20 yards it had 2 big back fires and wouldnt start back up and still wont start this morning.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by arteacher on 03/15/12 at 06:09:58 Mods? Year? Mileage? Unusual noises from top of motor? :-?

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by Routy on 03/15/12 at 06:21:51 I always associate backfire w/ lean-ness. For a start, (ez stuff 1st) loosen the drain screw at bottom of carb bowl,...see if fuel runs out If not, turn petcock to "prime" for a minute, then see if fuel runs out Then go from there.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by rodeoclown on 03/15/12 at 09:41:10 I bought it used so I have not done mods but it does have a jardine on it year is 97 with 2460 miles no noise in the Motor. I don't know what mods the previous owner did because she bought it used with the jardine already on it

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by rodeoclown on 03/15/12 at 15:03:53 There was fuel in the bowl.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by verslagen1 on 03/15/12 at 15:22:20 Pretty hard to determine a problem w/out much detail. Being that it was in storage, I'll assume clogged carb. take 2 cans of carb cleaner and call us in the morning.   8-)

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by rodeoclown on 03/15/12 at 15:28:44 It wasnt in storage.i had been starting it every morning and drove it last Saturday.Last night i got on took of it jerked and then two loud back fires and then it shut down and I havent been able to start it since.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by greenmonster on 03/15/12 at 16:35:29 Does it turn over when you press the start button? Does the light come on when you turn the key? Are there any unusual sounds happening as you attempt to start it?

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by rodeoclown on 03/15/12 at 16:38:07 Turns over the lights come on it just won't start. Nothing unusual that I can here

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by greenmonster on 03/15/12 at 16:47:57 Spark?

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by rodeoclown on 03/15/12 at 16:51:01 I don't know about the spark I need to get a spark tester tomorrow

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by greenmonster on 03/15/12 at 16:52:10 Along the lines of what Vers said, when was the last time you cleaned your carb? Do you have an inline fuel filter?

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by rodeoclown on 03/15/12 at 16:57:25 No inline fuel filter and I took the carb off tonight and it looked fine. So while I had it off I rejetted it because I didn't know if the previous owner did or not and they didn't when the put the jardine on. So now I figure why I got the carb off I might as well fix my oil leak.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/15/12 at 19:00:22 I sure try to avoid adding variables when something is being difficult,.It was running before the backfire & shutdown,, I woulda found the problem & fixed that before I changed anything that could affect whether or not it will start, So, was there much crap in the bowl? Did you check the passages in the carb? Is the battery fully charged? Have you pulled the plug? Id spin it over w/o the plug & see if anything sounds wrong, I cant remember if youve checked spark, Just because it sparks outside the cylinder doesnt mean it will once instaled, if the battery isnt fully charged, itll spin over & not spark, Or, you could take out a HUGE life insurance policy on it & take it to a craptasticanich.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by rodeoclown on 03/15/12 at 19:34:33 The bowl was clean. Pulled the plug I need to get a spark tester to test the plug.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/15/12 at 21:12:35 Is the battery fully charged? PLease try to reply to all the points in the posts, cant help if we dont know what youve done & not done,

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by rodeoclown on 03/16/12 at 04:05:14 I don't know I don't have a way to test it the battery. It is a new battery so I would think it would be.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by bill67 on 03/16/12 at 05:16:39 If you have a charger put it on it.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by Mr Hyde on 03/16/12 at 08:08:57 Being a new battery doesn't necessarily mean much. Years ago I went through 3 from the dealer until I finally got one that didn't have a dead cell.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by rodeoclown on 03/16/12 at 10:02:02 I took the battery to auto zone and it was at 45 percent. So I am getting it charged there because I don't have a charger

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/16/12 at 10:23:04 YOu may not know this yet, but you are a mechanic,,& as such, youll need some tools. A short list of tools youll need if you want to ride one of these & not leave it in the shop all the time is a Service Manual, battery charger, because if it doesnt want to start, the battery runs down a little, then, it will act like its gonna start, but it wont, the spark isnt strong enough, even tho the engine is spinning nicely, Of course you need some wrenches & sockets & screwdrivers & feeler gauges. If you dont have what you need now,, okay,, I just finally got a deep metric 3/8 drive set the other day,, NOW my toolbox is complete & Ive been collecting since I was a kid. If you just want to get a 10 MM endwrench for starters, hit a pawnshop, Some of them sell by the pound, If you get sockets from Harbor Freight, theyll work, I wouldnt do that if I was a pro mechanic, but as JUst an Ol Guy,, uh huhh,, BUT,,I would be careful about the ratchet. A crappy ratchet can get ya hurt, I prefer S&K, but CRaftsman is fine, I have 3 1/4 ratchets, different kinds, they all get used for different jobs.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by rodeoclown on 03/16/12 at 10:35:23 I just got my manual in the mail today. Should I get a set of metric wrenches? I haven't ran into any thing that I need a box wrench on yet but I'm new so in sure there are things I need them for

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by greenmonster on 03/16/12 at 11:05:36 As I keep telling my wife... every different tool has it's purpose, no I don't need 4 different kinds of wrenches, I could get by with just one. But the times when I want those other ones, boy would it ever make life easier!

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/16/12 at 21:33:43 You dont actually need a set, but by the time you buy the individual wrenches that the bike needs, you coulda bought one, Tools,, why are they so foreign to people?

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by rodeoclown on 03/17/12 at 03:02:03 Tools aren't foreign to me. I'm a farm boy that moved to the city sorry couldn't bring them with me i have a garage my car barely fits in that right now is taken over by my bike.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by rodeoclown on 03/17/12 at 08:01:37 I just want to thank everybody for their input on my problem thanks to you guys I (or should I say we) got it up and running  ;D It was the battery.I got it charged up and boom she started up. With the new lancer jet it sound really good right now. I have to take it out and road test it to Know for sure.So many thanks to everyone on this forum I am honored  to be a member and to know there is such support out there for this bike and the owners. Again many Thanks! Now on to the oil leak!!!

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/17/12 at 10:28:09 A battery strong enough to spin it nicely otta fire it off,, that bites so many people,, & you can pull the plug & watch it spark & think Yea,, this thing is ready to start...but, with the plug In,, fighting spinning the engine & adding in the work of compression,, theres not enough OOOomph to fire the plug,,, So, when it doesnt wanna start & youve spent a few minutes trying, be aware that every push of the start button is bringing you closer to that moment when you gotta charge it up before you can move forward, Ive added pigtails to the 4 wheeler & lawnmower, using , I think, RCA plugs, maybe thats not the right name, like the ones we used to plug the turntable in with. Float chargers from Harbor Freight, Id probably want a better brand if I was doin it over,,anyway, starting with a hot battery is a good way help figure out whats going on, but a float charger will die trying to bring a battery up from the Im not dead. bnut IM needing charged up good, but you can get on the + side of the battery with a small battery chargers clip & ground somewhere on the engine or frame. &, as much of a pain as it is, you do need the battery on the bench & check the water.. Its a lot like water,, it will evaporate undewr the right conditions, so, you problee otta have a look,, theres a slot in the battery box, but IDK if you can tell the battery condition there.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by Boofer on 03/17/12 at 19:41:38 Justin, I saw your earlier post about your tool set being complete. I will bet you one million dollars it ain't. Just in case, that's post- ;D Obama dollars. When I finally said my tool box was complete I found I couldn't lift it anymore.  :'( Also I'll open a new thought here. What we call a backfire isn't technically a backfire. We all use it and understand its use here, so no problem. But a real backfire comes back through the carburetor. I had a terrific REAL backfire after pouring gas into the huge round thing on top of my 454 engine last week.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/17/12 at 22:14:37 Of course its not complete,, Im missin a coupla sockets, I dont have a full set of wobble sockets, only 3/8 drive shallow 6 point standards, But, I have everything I can see myself needing, I REally wish I had a 10 MM box end that drops down, that would make doin valves on these things so much easier. I guess I could heat & bend one, Ive bent wrenches before to do a job. & No way could I move the top box, no Earthly way,, & the bottom one has Wheeeels.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by rodeoclown on 03/18/12 at 07:17:20 Took the bike out for a ride and with the new main jet what a difference! No backfire or popping it sounds really good,and runs awesome it was a good 10-15 minute ride.I think thats why I got it cheap is because who ever was working on it for her couldnt figure out the backfire after putting on the jardine so I am really glad to have found this forum. Now just got to get the oil leak fixed and get my Motorcycle endorsement and Im ready to give her a good try.

Title: Re: Backfire and wont start Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/18/12 at 22:42:18 Talk to us about that oil leak,.,

SuzukiSavage.com » Powered by YaBB 2.2! YaBB © 2000-2007. All Rights Reserved.