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Message started by Serowbot on 02/10/12 at 17:43:31

Title: Dude's got his head screwed on backwards...
Post by Serowbot on 02/10/12 at 17:43:31

See,.. what I tell ya'?...  :-?...

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/hbwds.jpg

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Post by built2last66 on 02/10/12 at 17:47:22

darn that is one sweet air cleaner idea to play with

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Post by verslagen1 on 02/10/12 at 18:00:02

That sure is one hella frankenbike

kowa suki front end
gixer rear
yami with a omen influence
a cruiser seat on a cafe

the guy sure is twisted.  my kind of guy   ;D

Title: Re: Dude's got his head screwed on backwards...
Post by built2last66 on 02/10/12 at 18:05:36


263522233C3137353E61500 wrote:
the guy sure is twisted.  my kind of guy   ;D


like stirring your peas and mashed potatoes together? nuts is sick

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Post by MMRanch on 02/10/12 at 18:24:42

Wouldn't that make the cam chain run backwards ? :P

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Post by arteacher on 02/11/12 at 09:01:38

Cam chain is in the center (I think). You would definitely need a custom cam.

Title: Re: Dude's got his head screwed on backwards...
Post by k9500winmag on 02/12/12 at 07:02:07

Is this the next generation of bobber/ streetfighter? Looks like its half futuristic no school or something. Make some brass accents and you could call it steampunk?

Title: Re: Dude's got his head screwed on backwards...
Post by Serowbot on 02/12/12 at 08:13:39

Unfortunately,... he's put a lot of engineering into creating the traditional Harley, rear cylinder problem... overheating...
You shouldn't have the exhaust port at the rear of an air-cooled engine...


Title: Re: Dude's got his head screwed on backwards...
Post by mpescatori on 02/12/12 at 22:28:43


6771667B63767B60140 wrote:
Unfortunately,... he's put a lot of engineering into creating the traditional Harley, rear cylinder problem... overheating...
You shouldn't have the exhaust port at the rear of an air-cooled engine...


Sorry, Serow, I must contradict you.

Eyewitness news: Ducatis have the rear cylinder with the exhaust port looking back ever since they came out with the belt-driven OHC Desmos.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTDVlwgvFT20z5l5gl9f1a9PTZrxjgKbecxSA2FQkvV-BHmB9C4nfMW0Ii8UA

As if THAT weren't enough, Borile, a "quasi-Buell" Italian equivalent, uses a custom made 450cc single originating from the rear cylinder only of the 900cc twin.

http://www.borile.it/imgs/b450pic1.jpg

Rather, the guys is using the wrong kind of air filter; looks nice and shiny, but actually pushes air away from the intake...

Title: Re: Dude's got his head screwed on backwards...
Post by verslagen1 on 04/08/16 at 08:00:10


6A77627464667368756E070 wrote:
[quote author=6771667B63767B60140 link=1328924611/0#7 date=1329063219]Unfortunately,... he's put a lot of engineering into creating the traditional Harley, rear cylinder problem... overheating...
You shouldn't have the exhaust port at the rear of an air-cooled engine...


Sorry, Serow, I must contradict you.

Eyewitness news: Ducatis have the rear cylinder with the exhaust port looking back ever since they came out with the belt-driven OHC Desmos.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTDVlwgvFT20z5l5gl9f1a9PTZrxjgKbecxSA2FQkvV-BHmB9C4nfMW0Ii8UA

As if THAT weren't enough, Borile, a "quasi-Buell" Italian equivalent, uses a custom made 450cc single originating from the rear cylinder only of the 900cc twin.

http://www.borile.it/imgs/b450pic1.jpg

Rather, the guys is using the wrong kind of air filter; looks nice and shiny, but actually pushes air away from the intake...[/quote]

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/05/14/borile-b450-scrambler-first-look-review-photos

http://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycleworld.com/files/styles/large_1x_/public/import/embedded/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Borile-B450-Scrambler-SIDE-R.jpg?itok=ouz7c4i5

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Post by MMRanch on 04/08/16 at 09:13:29

Borile B450 Scrambler

I can't help but like that style !  :)

Maybe that is a belt drive cam  ?  


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Post by gizzo on 04/08/16 at 16:21:03


6A77627464667368756E070 wrote:
[quote author=6771667B63767B60140 link=1328924611/0#7 date=1329063219]Unfortunately,... he's put a lot of engineering into creating the traditional Harley, rear cylinder problem... overheating...
You shouldn't have the exhaust port at the rear of an air-cooled engine...


Sorry, Serow, I must contradict you.

Eyewitness news: Ducatis have the rear cylinder with the exhaust port looking back ever since they came out with the belt-driven OHC Desmos.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTDVlwgvFT20z5l5gl9f1a9PTZrxjgKbecxSA2FQkvV-BHmB9C4nfMW0Ii8UA
.[/quote]

Nope. The early belt dive ducatis had the exhaust port on the rear head facing the front. The 750 Paso was the first reversed head ,in 86 I think. Same engine as 750 F1 but for the head. No problems but they needed to incorporate oil cooling to keep the rear exhaust port temp down. The reverse head was just so they could use a automotive 2bbl carb and a big airbox under the tank.
I have 1 with the head on right, 1 with a backward head. Neither give any trouble. HD has the rear cylinder bathing in hot air from the front one, Ducati not so.

Love the borile. If I had lots of money.....

Title: Re: Dude's got his head screwed on backwards...
Post by Kris01 on 04/08/16 at 19:38:46


1107100D15000D16620 wrote:
You shouldn't have the exhaust port at the rear of an air-cooled engine...


I've often wondered why anyone would build a backwards-looking engine. It seems like common sense would put the intake in the airstream and the exhaust out the back. I think you're right though.

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Post by DesertRat on 04/09/16 at 07:10:59


I'd be more impressed if it was an S40 LS650 Savage

Title: Re: Dude's got his head screwed on backwards...
Post by Serowbot on 04/09/16 at 08:21:11

You would?...

BORILE B651 SCRAMBLER 2005 - 2007
http://www.autoevolution.com/images/moto_gallery/medium/BORILEB651SCRAMBLER-medium-661_1.jpg

Title: Re: Dude's got his head screwed on backwards...
Post by DesertRat on 04/09/16 at 08:43:38


Bot,

that scrambler hasn't got its head screwed on backwards ...
Just saying ...  ;)

Title: Re: Dude's got his head screwed on backwards...
Post by cheapnewb24 on 04/09/16 at 09:02:37

When I first looked at the bike, it took a few seconds to figure out what was so different. Then, I thought something like, "Why aren't they all like this?"  So, why is the conventional way so backwards? The exhaust side needs the coldest air I assume?

Title: Re: Dude's got his head screwed on backwards...
Post by gizzo on 04/10/16 at 18:08:25


495F48554D58554E3A0 wrote:
You would?...

BORILE B651 SCRAMBLER 2005 - 2007
http://www.autoevolution.com/images/moto_gallery/medium/BORILEB651SCRAMBLER-medium-661_1.jpg


That's cool. Never seen it before. Thanks. Going around a few bike websites to check specs, nobody mentions the engine's origin, and the frame specs list it variously as Cro-Mo or light alloy. Looks like a Cabbage frame to me and I'm pretty sure that one's just mild steel?

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Post by old_rider on 04/10/16 at 23:22:54


5C4A5D40584D405B2F0 wrote:
You would?...

BORILE B651 SCRAMBLER 2005 - 2007
http://www.autoevolution.com/images/moto_gallery/medium/BORILEB651SCRAMBLER-medium-661_1.jpg



Now I would ride that for awhile!   :) :) ;)

Title: Re: Dude's got his head screwed on backwards...
Post by Art Webb on 04/11/16 at 07:46:43

Def looks like a Savage that's been Scramblerized

Title: Re: Dude's got his head screwed on backwards...
Post by Dave on 04/11/16 at 12:33:40


39232725241A2B383E38232E2D2F4A0 wrote:
[quote author=495F48554D58554E3A0 link=1328924611/0#14 date=1460215271]You would?...

BORILE B651 SCRAMBLER 2005 - 2007
http://www.autoevolution.com/images/moto_gallery/medium/BORILEB651SCRAMBLER-medium-661_1.jpg


That's cool. Never seen it before. Thanks. Going around a few bike websites to check specs, nobody mentions the engine's origin, and the frame specs list it variously as Cro-Mo or light alloy. Looks like a Cabbage frame to me and I'm pretty sure that one's just mild steel?
[/quote]

It appears to me they may have used the engine cradle that matches the engine.  It appears they welded on their tubing just above the point in the front where the double tubes join to a single tube.  And at the back of the engine it appears there is a similar weld just behind the engine.

http://www.savage-distel.de/images/werk/2005_borile_ls_scrambler.jpg

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