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Message started by Serowbot on 01/16/12 at 11:02:05

Title: Friday the 13th...
Post by Serowbot on 01/16/12 at 11:02:05

Both my computers crashed... Suck!...
.. and we went for a ride,.. and Gerry got rear-ended,... again...
(he's okay, just a love tap, from a jeep)...
We was riding 3 in a row, stopped at a light, me in the middle, Gerry at the rear, and I heard the squealing tires as the jeep skidded to a stop, just in the nick of too late...
No damage or injury, but an inch more would have been a launch...

So,.. I've installed some bigger tailights (Road King turn signals, actually),.. and added some reflective tape to my helmet...
I was gonna' do stripes, but went for stupid instead... (try to trigger the facial recognition instinct)...
... :)...

:-?...
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/DSCF0660.jpg

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by spacepirates on 01/16/12 at 11:48:57

makes me re-think putting LED lights or smaller lights on the rear.

I wonder how much of that was "they didn't see you" and how much of that was "they weren't paying attention and all the lights in Vegas wouldn't have helped."

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by arteacher on 01/16/12 at 13:40:30

Friday 13th Port Dover run- I decided not to go. :-?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aINVpTWcTUU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EcGHJesAx_M
Just for perspective, this is what it,s like in decent weather.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Jme3vbET88k

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by verslagen1 on 01/16/12 at 13:50:09

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/DSCF0660.jpg

Till I read thru the text, I figured the jeep driver was laughing too hard to notice the other bike.   ;D

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]
like da lights

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 01/16/12 at 13:59:30

How about a jacket like mine that is bumble bee yellow in color. I never understand why riders wear gray jackets that blend in with the pavement, or black ones either.

My helmet is candy apple red.  While a red helmet and yellow jacket may be a bit unusual, I've been told by others who were behind me that I'm really visible, to the point of being attention getting.

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by arteacher on 01/16/12 at 14:08:43

White helmet will do- they think your a cop at first sight, especially if you've got a white bike too.
I put a headlight modulator and led running lights and brake flasher on mine.

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 01/16/12 at 14:30:45

Yep, white helmet gets attention.  Also, while it may not be the most practical, how about activating the emergency flashers when stopped at a traffic light?

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by built2last66 on 01/16/12 at 14:45:08

http://i40.tinypic.com/23u38fs.jpg

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by arteacher on 01/16/12 at 14:47:30

Sorry Built- I don't get it. :-?

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by gerald.hughes on 01/16/12 at 15:07:47

I am afraid that I don't buy into the visibility thing.  To see you, they have to be looking.  As a friend of mine once commented, "Nobody ever 'didn't see' a Hell's Angel."   If they are busy texting, or just daydreaming about their date for that night, it won't matter it you are wearing flashing strobe light.

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 01/16/12 at 15:20:15

Gerald -

Sorry, but looking is only one part of the problem.  If you're "attention getting", you may spurn a person into seeing you who otherwise would not.

That's why fire engines are painted either red or lime green, why road workers wear lime green or yellow vests, etc.  You can grab someone's attention with vibrant colors who otherwise wouldn't see you.

And flashing strobe lights do work for bicyclists - I'm also one of them, and the numbers prove it.

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by spacepirates on 01/16/12 at 15:24:32


343B373D363B303C3B2C393B2C5E0 wrote:
Yep, white helmet gets attention.  Also, while it may not be the most practical, how about activating the emergency flashers when stopped at a traffic light?



might be illegal depending on the state, something about red flashing lights. maybe.

they DO make flashers that pulse your tail lights three times when you step on them though.

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by gerald.hughes on 01/16/12 at 15:32:32


4E414D474C414A464156434156240 wrote:
Gerald -

Sorry, but looking is only one part of the problem.  If you're "attention getting", you may spurn a person into seeing you who otherwise would not.

That's why fire engines are painted either red or lime green, why road workers wear lime green or yellow vests, etc.  You can grab someone's attention with vibrant colors who otherwise wouldn't see you.

And flashing strobe lights do work for bicyclists - I'm also one of them, and the numbers prove it.



I guess that I should point out that emergency vehicles of all types, including day glo red and green fire engines, have many times the accident rate of ordinary vehicles.  

Go figure.

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by Arizuno on 01/16/12 at 16:55:12

It makes sense to cover all the bets, which to me means a combination of bright colors and functional paranoia. Seeing how drivers tend to (not) respond to emergency vehicle sirens and colors is ample evidence of incompetence, inebriation, profound myopia or all of the above; the implications for motorcyclists are obvious.

I just ordered a decidedly YELLOW helmet from Revzilla. Ida got it in "Safety Orange" had that been available. But I'll continue to assume I'm invisible. Or a target.

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by Serowbot on 01/16/12 at 20:18:12

I like Built's Mr. Bill face... should'a thought this out a little more...
;D....

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/16/12 at 21:23:04

I was tooling along, minding my business on a 4 lane, thru town type road, I was near the curb. A Mobile ICU ( back in the day, it woulda just been an ambulance, but this thing is BIG, Painted up like a fire truck & has the shiny stuff all over it., BIg letters in contrasting colors,, extremely visible. It passes me, no lites, no siren, just rolling the limit, I look up to see a guy in a pickup clear a stop sign, I cant be sure he rolled thru, not sure he stopped, but he didnt come thru fast,, & he came across a lane + before he slammed on the brakes to keep from hitting that Ambulance.,.
If it had been a motorcycle,, I dont think he woulda seen it,
The moral? Pay attention.. you are probably invisible to a good %age of the drivers out there.

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by built2last66 on 01/16/12 at 21:29:53

Get a louder muffler, some sea foam, and a topless woman 2 up and your golden..

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by arteacher on 01/17/12 at 03:45:25


4D5B4C51495C514A3E0 wrote:
I like Built's Mr. Bill face... should'a thought this out a little more...
;D....

Nooow I get it! ;D ;D

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 01/17/12 at 05:48:39

Of course, emergency vehicles have more accidents because, while on a run, they slow for red lights, but usually don't stop, travel fast, and otherwise don't obey all of the normal traffic laws that ordinary vehicles have to obey.

Plus, the driver, if he is using his siren, is wearing hearing protection and can't hear what's going on around him.

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/17/12 at 06:01:30

& I tried ever so hard to convey the point that guy was just rolling down thew road, no lites, no siren, no emergency. He was a huge, colorful truck & the guy at the stop sign didnt see him, nearly ran right into him.,

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by built2last66 on 01/17/12 at 06:59:13

...what's not to get  :-?...

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by verslagen1 on 01/17/12 at 08:56:54


687771766B6C5D6D5D65777B30020 wrote:
& I tried ever so hard to convey the point that guy was just rolling down thew road, no lites, no siren, no emergency. He was a huge, colorful truck & the guy at the stop sign didnt see him, nearly ran right into him.,

Just goes to show you that even on a clear day, a brightly conveyed message, will be ran over.

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by tony 1538 on 02/11/12 at 15:11:44

Is anyone going to the Friday the 13th meet in Port Dover in July?

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by lukeduck on 02/11/12 at 16:21:37

Couple of years back was a lady out here "T-boned" a big yellow school bus. She said she didn't see it. Ahe failed to see the stop sign too. I work on the basis that short of a 5 mil candlepower strobe they don't see me. Come to think of it, most likely wouldn't make any difference if they did see me, what the heck is one bike more or less.

Title: Re: Friday the 13th...
Post by arteacher on 02/12/12 at 03:42:01


4358594E0602040F370 wrote:
Is anyone going to the Friday the 13th meet in Port Dover in July?

I plan to.

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