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Title: getting tired of the site. Post by gerald.hughes on 11/06/11 at 20:36:42 I am curious, are any of the rest of you getting tired of this site turning from a Suzuki Savage site to a "YOU MUST BE THIS TALL TO SIT AT THIS TABLE" site? I am getting really tired of checking the 10 most recent posts, and finding 8-10 of this from this thread. I come here to read about the bike that I love, to find out what others have done to their bikes, and to catch up on the latest maintenance issues. Because of the current trend, I find myself coming here less and less, and that makes me sad. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by built2last66 on 11/06/11 at 20:49:41 I find the cafe pretty refreshing, I mostly read the tech section and help if I can in the rubber side down section, but I'm not that technical yet and my bike is down at the moment... once I get to modding I'm sure rubber side down will be full of my nonesense :D But yes I can see it from your point of view... |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/06/11 at 21:31:45 No rules against starting a thread you think will generate some interest. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by Starlifter on 11/06/11 at 21:44:36 Tired of the site? or the thread....It's only one thread among many, read something else. The fact that the thread is so active must suggest to you that it is popular and many of us enjoy it. The looong winter is setting in here in the north and we don't want to continually read about carburetors and discuss the merits of this oil or that oil all winter when our bikes are in cold weather storage. I see that you live in AZ where it is hot all year and never rains so you can ride all year. Good for you, but for many of us the riding season is over and we enjoy chatting and debating with our friends on the Tall Table thread. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by verslagen1 on 11/06/11 at 21:48:28 switch to 10 most recent topics instead. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by Midnightrider on 11/06/11 at 21:51:13 There's only so much you can say or do with a Suzuki Savage and its all been said here 100 times or more, Without the cafe section this forum will die. I own a Ninja 250 and I quit going on the forum a long time ago. I've seen it all. Its boring. The tall table comes and goes. Somebody will get something started and its on for 2 or 3 days then it dies down for seversl days. I think its fun sometimes to argue religion and politics. I cant do it at home or I would lose half my friends and family. Not all my friends or family are as open minded as I am so I just have to leave it alone. Its nice to have a place to voice my opinion and there's no consequences. I think thats what Jerry wanted when he started the Tall Table. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by LostArtist on 11/06/11 at 21:56:33 working on bikes is hard and takes time and is amazing rewarding and this site is a great great resource for that. politics is cheap and easy and anyone can complain about it. I feel much safer complaining about politics than I do complaining about someone's hard work put into their bike just because I don't fancy it. less people have specialized knowledge about how to work on motorcycles but anyone can spout off about politics. over on Triumphrat.net they don't allow political talk or whatever, and I don't really participate in that forum, so no one knows me there, I have no way to connect with anyone there. don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. eventually I'll get around to doing something with my bike and I'll share it here, but between then and now, I like you all and want to connect with people here, but I don't know enough to say much about motorcycles here maybe an opinion thread about comparing bikes maybe something like Savage VS the World!!! sorry Gerald, I'll shut up now |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by Serowbot on 11/06/11 at 23:46:05 I gave up on the Tall Table over the summer... Just not as masochistic as I used to be... :-?... |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by MrBrownTX on 11/07/11 at 07:03:56 Don't browse by "the 10 most recent posts". Just go through the forums looking for posts that are lit up as new stuff there. Yesterday was the first time I ever even read that thread you mentioned in months of coming here. I don't plan on getting into it ever again but that doesn't detract from the rest of the site. The web is full of Epeen stroking know it alls that love to argue it out on both sides because you can't win or lose it keeps feeding egos. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by built2last66 on 11/07/11 at 07:36:06 786E79647C69647F0B0 wrote:
Maybe you're not tall enough to sit at the table? I'm sitting on 3 phone books and a booster chair... [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by Serowbot on 11/07/11 at 08:18:02 687F63667E38666B797E3C3C0A0 wrote:
I knew you were cheating... :-?... |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by LostArtist on 11/07/11 at 09:00:55 6F796E736B7E73681C0 wrote:
I knew you were cheating... :-?... [/quote] the truth is . . . . we're all cheating . . . :o ;) |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by prsavage on 11/07/11 at 14:15:34 I've always just skipped the tall table. It was never why I visited the site. All the other topics I at least skim through even if I almost never post to any. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by arteacher on 11/07/11 at 14:23:09 I don't bother with the tall table anymore either. Too much bull excrement there. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by EJID on 11/07/11 at 15:00:47 6D66666F636C6D7776020 wrote:
I agree, and after the first day or two I quit watching the "wheat belly" thread as well. But I enjoy the rest of the site. :) |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by drharveys on 11/07/11 at 16:47:51 737878717D727369681C0 wrote:
Can't remember when I checked out the table... |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by Gyrobob on 11/07/11 at 18:55:20 565443505D551F594456595442310 wrote:
So don't check for recent posts. Just go to the threads that interest you. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by mpnoffi on 11/07/11 at 20:38:05 I have enjoyed this forum a lot. It's interesting that even though I don't post very often, I feel like I know all of the usual suspects here. I check this forum everyday and usually find something interesting after thumbing through 5 to 10 new threads about petcocks and Seafoam. There is ALOT of good information here. If you look hard enough, this good info dates back to the early 2000's. I once wished that we had more "build threads" or projects here, so I started one. (the Ryca projects have certainly helped and they are great...and there will be more to come I suspect with the tracker package under developement). Maybe someone will be inspired to build another Savage Scrambler like mine! Who knows! If you would like to see something different goin on here...make it so! Just do it! :) |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by built2last66 on 11/07/11 at 20:48:51 Is a bratstyle/short chop/bobber pretty unique? I don't wanna steal your trackers glory, or any bobber kits... And there will be no chain conversion.. sorry.. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by mpnoffi on 11/07/11 at 21:13:02 Sure it will be. I like brats, bobbers, chops, trackers etc...Make it yours. That's what its all about. No glory here. Just havin a good time. The build threads on here are my favorite part of the site. Just simply saying that I wished there were more...so I started one. I'd like to see yours too! |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by built2last66 on 11/07/11 at 21:35:37 A savage tracker is the friggin hardest to beat though.. seems like it was just meant to be... making it bratty and bobby though.. tough stuff in the works.. :D |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by babyhog on 11/08/11 at 11:31:05 Gerry, I've been a little bored with it lately too, and I blame Serowbot. He used to post thread after thread of goofy videos (which I can't watch Youtube at work know -- blocked) and pics. He doesn't do it anymore. New threads are getting further between. But I still check in every so often. So Bot... find something interesting to share. What's your problem man?? ;) :-* **Edit - my apologies to Bot, since I hadn't checked in for a few days, now I see he has posted a few funny tid-bits 8-) |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by arteacher on 11/08/11 at 16:55:16 I have read the entire tech section (every single post) and now the thrill has diminished. :-? |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by Serowbot on 11/08/11 at 17:02:04 Once you've seen everything,... instead of being bored,.. contribute something... Stuff don't post itself,... we are the site... ;)... |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by mpnoffi on 11/08/11 at 17:08:54 Well said Serowbot! |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/08/11 at 18:47:09 617E787F62655464546C7E72390B0 wrote:
Yea, what the rowboat said.. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by gerald.hughes on 11/08/11 at 19:40:50 Gee, it seems to me that maybe this thread has prompted a little discussion. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by Trippah on 11/08/11 at 19:54:19 I know what you mean, I stopped visiting the table quite a while back. Bobbers aren't my thing so it usuallly only two or three topics i check. I visit this site and wildguzzi.com most every day and still get some enjoyment out of both..given that almost every topic that is bike related has been covered again and again. I also enjoy some of the you tube bike rides, because as noted, the winter is long and cold up heah. If you think of any interesting topics or questions, fire away. I don't think political discussion ever change anyone's vote..but may discussions on topics such as the proposed change to cola for us retires..or does anyone really believe some of the supreme court cases that are up??? |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by LostArtist on 11/08/11 at 20:48:39 050710030E064C0A17050A0711620 wrote:
made me realize how much of an a s s I am. sorry everyone going to give the tall table a break, just when it gets interesting names start being called and although it's helped me get some thicker skin, I don't want any more abuse right now |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by verslagen1 on 11/08/11 at 21:28:47 4942424B4748495352260 wrote:
Well arteacher, that should make you a pretty knowledgeable guy. How much have you done? and how much are you willing to do? there are still some gaping holes in our knowledge. or talent, what's your talent? a lot of people here have explored painting and I'm tired of black. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/08/11 at 23:17:01 Ive done some exploring, then I got caught,, & I was in TRuuuubbblllleee,, |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by Boofer on 11/08/11 at 23:58:11 677463627D7076747F20110 wrote:
Well arteacher, that should make you a pretty knowledgeable guy. How much have you done? and how much are you willing to do? there are still some gaping holes in our knowledge. or talent, what's your talent? a lot of people here have explored painting and I'm tired of black.[/quote] Verslagen, You really hurt me with such talk. Here in Mississippi we consider flat black the ultimate in redneck customizing. ;) |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by arteacher on 11/09/11 at 04:38:17 My goals for the bike are to make it comfortable, reliable, and safe. Most of the mods I have done are for comfort and safety. ie Corbin seat, forward controls, Isogrips and finally handlebars. For safety I have installed a headlight modulator, modulated running lights on the back, and decent tires, and a loud exhaust.(no debate please). The bike goes fast enough for me, so I am not interested in big bore kits or chain conversions or fast cams or the like. The valves need adjusting, the carb needs some attention, I want to install Versy's cam chain tension-er, and I'm done. I don't have a garage to work on it in, and so the decision for me is always to work on it or ride it when the weather is good. I am no mechanical wizard, but I know my way around a set of tools, and I have done most of the work on my cars over the years, including body work and painting. I have the money to pay others to do the work if I want to, and my hands aren't as dexterous as they used to be and my body really gives me hell if I have to submit it to the contortions required for back yard mechanical work. This site has provided me with all the information I need to make these decisions. I regard this site as a club, and a lot of the people in it as friendly acquaintances that I will probably never meet, but would like to. I have no friends, and ride alone, because my wife is severely handicapped and can't ride, even in a side car. I joined an age appropriate club, but they are all well off retired folks who ride Goldwings on long trips (I can't leave my wife alone for too long) so that didn't pan out. They are nice people, but tend to look down their noses at my noisy little S40. I reply to questions in RSD if I figure I know what I'm talking about ie been there and done that. I enjoy the Cafe as long as people don't start insulting one another, and probably post there most often. That is what this site means to me. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by built2last66 on 11/09/11 at 07:34:52 I <3 flat black.. if you guys think flat black is redneck you'd hate see what the rednecks around here paint their stuff with... oh wait, they don't even paint it... |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by EJID on 11/09/11 at 07:37:52 I was thinking/planning on repainting my bike this winter (currently flat black/gloss blue two-tone) but my wife doesn't want me to. She said that the flat black is what she likes because it makes my bike different from all the others and I have got comments on that as well. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by spacepirates on 11/09/11 at 07:43:02 We are a group with a number of common interests. Though our main goal (or what first brought us here) was to provide accurate, free, useful information on how to fix, work on, ride our motorcycles, eventually you have to digress. Kind of like water cooler talk at work, it isn't why you go to work, but it just kind of happens. if you aren't a fan, that is cool, don't worry about it. The how-to's and FAQ content you originally wanted isn't going to be replaced by any random tangent we talk about. Perhaps, if it tickles your fancy to do so, you can start your own thread about whatever interests you. I've no clue what the "how tall" thread is about (never read it), and i think the "wheat belly" thread is about weight loss. We're just a group of people with one common interest talking about other interests that maybe not everyone has in common, but that is why they are individual threads and not one huge front page article. I agree it is somewhat disheartening/disappointing/annoying (though my true feelings aren't as negative as those words convey) to see more posts about politics than it is about the bike, but every once in a while there comes a post that I can comment on or contribute to. Some of us look for more than just technical how to's, a personal touch, if you will. I'm sorry that our friendliness and banter has begun to drive you away. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by Boofer on 11/09/11 at 08:20:21 5344585D45035D5042450707310 wrote:
Sorry guys, I forgot to mention camouflage, but it does require a slightly higher skill level to make it look just right. ;D |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by built2last66 on 11/09/11 at 08:21:57 46494A47030 wrote:
I bought a gloss black FF helmet to match my bike, once it was broken in it was a little shakey on my head so I got a smaller size in flat black... so I gave my girl my gloss black helmet as a temp... guess which helmet she wants to wear when we ride? :D |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by built2last66 on 11/09/11 at 15:55:09 Arteacher you aren't riding alone brother... And you're never done.. I feel it in you without ever meeting ya :D Can someone please tell me how to stop making these girls/women on the back of Harleys stop waving at me? I have a girlfriend... that's just rude.. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by mick on 11/09/11 at 19:42:23 the problem is you have all missed me.You see what happens when I take a few months off,the sight goes to heck. You all miss my religious discussions I have with believers. Religion really is the root of all evil. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by Serowbot on 11/09/11 at 20:56:41 Not sure it's the religious arguments, but Mick,... you have surely been missed my friend... ;)... |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by verslagen1 on 11/09/11 at 21:44:27 7F7B7179667A777E7B7F776B120 wrote:
Yes, evil begs the discussion of religion |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/09/11 at 22:26:01 474349415E424F4643474F532A0 wrote:
Dont get carried away.. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by built2last66 on 11/10/11 at 06:12:09 I see nothing wrong with religion, it's the people that I have a problem with.. they get on power trips just like politicians... not saying I'm perfect, but I don't claim to be :D |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by mick on 11/10/11 at 17:22:55 I see nothing wrong with religion but they do need to keep it out of government,schools,and churches,boy scouts,girl scouts. Just keep it in Motel rooms where it belongs. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by stinger on 11/10/11 at 19:30:11 It always amazes me when people know everything. I for one, do not know if there is a God or whether there is life on other planets and such things a UFO's. Therefore I choose to say exactly that. I do not know. You should do the same Mick. I just watched a show on PBS about the survivors who fought on D-Day. They said there were no atheists in the foxholes on that day. Maybe you just need to spend a little time in a foxhole |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/13/11 at 13:15:42 Since I'm the one who started the Tall Table ( TT ) just about 4 years ago when the presidential campaign of 2008 was starting up, I'll chime in on this thread. The TT was designed to be an immediately recognized thread for political, and thanks to Mick, some religious discussion. Since it's immediately recognizable for what it is, no one should go in to the thread by mistake, or thinking it's about something else - if you don't want to participate, fine. Let me say that I have made a few very good friends on that thread, Mick and Lifter among them ( they are not the only one ), whose political views as about as opposite to my own as they could ever get. Yet, we all learn something from everyone, even our opposites. In fact, I've shared PMs with these guys, whose real names I know, and enjoyed every one of them. I enjoy reading about our bikes too, but I'm not into modifications, and am not even an amateur mechanic. So I'm not interested in threads about bobbers, cam chain tensioner mods, carb jet mods, etc. I take my S40 to the dealer for service, pay my bill, and don't do much beyond putting air in the tires and checking the oil level myself. But I sure know that many of the participants do care about those things, and have some skills to enjoy tinkering. Fine, and I don't get upset about the 1,000th post about petcocks or cam chains. So, in the end, enjoy the TT if it's your thing, or ignore it. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by bill67 on 11/13/11 at 14:53:20 You can learn a lot on rubber side down,Suzuki don't know how to make a petcock,They got the seat to low in front,The S40 only likes diesel oil,Theres no oil dip stick. ::) |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by John_D FSO on 11/14/11 at 05:35:44 62696C6C3637000 wrote:
The Savage isn't alone in it's uncomfy seat design. That's why I'm sportin' a Mustang on my C50 now. 8-) |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by thumperclone on 11/14/11 at 06:33:50 20242E2639252821242028344D0 wrote:
evil(controll) is the root of religion |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by bill67 on 11/14/11 at 08:39:28 6671707A71777F2326252426140 wrote:
The Savage isn't alone in it's uncomfy seat design. That's why I'm sportin' a Mustang on my C50 now. 8-)[/quote] I was joking I think the seat is alright for me at 5-6 150#,And the seat doesn't need to lifted in front,that would put you in same place every time and you couldn't move around. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by Serowbot on 11/14/11 at 09:26:27 The stock seat is quite comfy for it's size,... but the front lift is essential... Without it,.. I gets me a snuggy... :-?... |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by ALfromN.H. on 11/14/11 at 10:34:31 7562636962646C3035363735070 wrote:
The Savage isn't alone in it's uncomfy seat design. That's why I'm sportin' a Mustang on my C50 now. 8-)[/quote] I find my C50 seat to be pretty comfy, but maybe thats because i'm compairing it to an s40 seat. I did replace the s40 seat with a corbin and that was really a great upgrade. Which mustang seat do you have? Maybe thats my next purchase. AL |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by dasch on 11/14/11 at 11:15:07 3235282F262433410 wrote:
Oh please... I spent almost 4 years in foxholes. Thought about wildest things but not really god or religion. Sorry 'bout this... it's usually food... ammo... an extra hand grenade... Or women! And toilet paper, oh yeah, that too... ;) |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by Starlifter on 11/14/11 at 12:46:06 245 pages, and 3668 replies to date make the TT the most popular, most replied to, and most visited thread ever to appear on this site. With that said, the TT is like what they use to say about America. "Love it or leave it".....but please don't complain about it, or condem it. As has been said many times before, for those of us who live way up north the riding season is over and it won't return for five more long snowy wintry months. Our bikes are asleep in deep winter storage, And the TT (for some of us) is about the only reason to frequent the site at this time of year. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by John_D FSO on 11/14/11 at 16:37:58 5A5759590D3B0 wrote:
The Savage isn't alone in it's uncomfy seat design. That's why I'm sportin' a Mustang on my C50 now. 8-)[/quote] I find my C50 seat to be pretty comfy, but maybe thats because i'm compairing it to an s40 seat. I did replace the s40 seat with a corbin and that was really a great upgrade. Which mustang seat do you have? Maybe thats my next purchase. AL[/quote] I got this one: http://www.westendmotorsports.com/mustang-twopiece-seat-with-backrest-boulevard-09up-wide-vintage-p-15446.html It wasn't as bad as the stock Savage for me, but like that one, it felt like it was putting too much pressure on my tailbone. Which, as Bill pointed out, isn't the case for everyone. I think it's probably a matter of height. If I'd had forward controls, I might not have needed the seat mod, but it was cheaper, and worked ok for me. :) |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by Gyrobob on 11/16/11 at 06:06:41 5C58525A4559545D585C5448310 wrote:
Agree. Religions are things guys made up. God never wanted religions. God could care less about whether you kneel first or sing first or get dunked in rivers or build snazzy buildings or wear goofy hats. I would think God would disapprove of one religion killing those of other religions for these kinds of made-up differences. |
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Title: Re: getting tired of the site. Post by MrBrownTX on 11/16/11 at 06:47:30 6F515A474A474A280 wrote:
Agree. Religions are things guys made up. God never wanted religions. God could care less about whether you kneel first or sing first or get dunked in rivers or build snazzy buildings or wear goofy hats. I would think God would disapprove of one religion killing those of other religions for these kinds of made-up differences.[/quote] /agree |
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