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Message started by Radiologix on 10/31/11 at 16:27:49

Title: No crank, no N light
Post by Radiologix on 10/31/11 at 16:27:49

Please help! My '98 Savage ran fine before I did this:

Removed battery
removed carb
removed airbox
reinstalled carb with new jets
installed K&N podfilter
reinstalled battery

Now there is no Neutral indicator, and the bike will not crank! All the other electrics seem to work fine. Tried to start it in gear, in N, with kickstand down, kickstand up....nada.

You may be asking yourself, now why did you take the bike apart when it ran fine you dummy???? I think that myself >:(

Title: Re: No crank, no N light
Post by thumperclone on 10/31/11 at 16:44:59

you MAY have shorted out the dioed in the k.s. relay ckt..
look under the k.s. side of the bike youll see 2 wires comin from the ks switch
tye those 2 together..try to start..
report back...

Title: Re: No crank, no N light
Post by Serowbot on 10/31/11 at 17:15:28

check fuses... right side, under seat... there's two...

Title: Re: No crank, no N light
Post by spacepirates on 10/31/11 at 17:44:16

does the solenoid click?
did you bump any connectors under the seat when you took stuff out?
do all the electrical connections have good, solid contacts?

all those wires can get in the way, you gotta make sure none of them got bumped out of place.

Title: Re: No crank, no N light
Post by Radiologix on 10/31/11 at 18:30:52

I have checked all the connections under the seat, and the fuses. Everything looks ok.
No click from solenoid.
What is that small single blue wire going to the crankcase?
I will check the kickstart diode tomorrow then.

Title: Re: No crank, no N light
Post by verslagen1 on 10/31/11 at 19:41:46

blue wire is the neutral switch.
that kickstand diode is above the carb or there abouts.
it's small.
if there's a blue wire connected to it, it's from the neutral switch.
one is from the kickstand and the other is from the neutral light.

Title: Re: No crank, no N light
Post by Boofer on 10/31/11 at 23:44:34

The blue wire is joined by connectors under the gas tank. Be sure it didn't get pulled apart.

Title: Re: No crank, no N light
Post by Radiologix on 11/01/11 at 11:56:30

Arg! Ok, heres what happened:
Checked all the connections under the seat over and over again
After I was sure there aren't any bad/loose connections, I scanned all the wires and found a green wire had been severed (apparently I got too enthusiastic with my removal of the airbox)
I have great pics too, btw, but can't seem to figure out how to put them in my post.. :-/
So, anywho, I trace the little bugger all the way down to the kickstand!
Yay! I thought to myself. Surely this was my culprit, right? So I spliced it together real nice and sealed her up with liquid electrical tape. I did the same with the adjacent black wire w/white stripe even though it wasn't severed, just beat up a little.
After reinstalling the gas tank, I excitedly turned the key and NOTHING! Dang it! So I remove the heat shrink from the little blue wire coming out of the crankcase and see that there is a a connection there that seems pretty solid. I am now overjoyed that I won't be taking off the case cover to fix any connections :D ......I think........
So I follow the little blue wire all the way up under the tank, where it makes a connection to a yet smaller blue wire and disappears into the main wire harness.
I'm now confused as to what actually is the issue at this point.
Determined, I tried again to crank her up, and I actually got it to start with the kickstand up!
So here it is:
The bike starts only with the kickstand up, and does not give me a N indicator still. Its as if the bike doesn't know its in N. I never found this kickstand Diode, does anyone have a pic??? Or should I be looking somewhere else now?
To end on a positive note, the bike sounds and rides like a fine tuned beast! ;D
Theres just something I love about hearing a throttle suck in air. ::)

Title: Re: No crank, no N light
Post by EJID on 11/01/11 at 12:49:59

0734313C3A393A323C2D550 wrote:

Theres just something I love about hearing a throttle suck in air. ::)

I agree :D it's a beautiful sound...

Sounds like you might even have a light burned out in your instrument cluster for the N indicator or this mysterious diode or something along the wiring harness for the kickstand switch is shorted. I would keep looking so that you don't end up stranded somewhere because you can't get it to start back up.

Title: Re: No crank, no N light
Post by Radiologix on 11/04/11 at 09:22:11

One last desperate bump :-[

Title: Re: No crank, no N light
Post by verslagen1 on 11/04/11 at 10:03:45

http://suzukisavage.com/images/uploaded/Harness02web.jpg

Safety switch diode as noted in the pic above.