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Message started by kuri77 on 10/31/11 at 12:09:15

Title: in the middle of the Verslavy install
Post by kuri77 on 10/31/11 at 12:09:15

It appears that the snap ring on the cam chain adjuster body shaft doesn't take much to be of no use a second time so going with recommendation of replacing. The shaft is 8mm and I was told that you ask for the snap ring by shaft size not the grooved size so I need an 8mm ring (.3150 inches). This is a hair larger than a 5/16 inch ring (.3125 inches). We're only talking .0025 inches. Dealer has to order but hardware store has the 5/16 inch one. Could I use the 5/16 as is, relieve it a tad with a rattail file or is this too critical to not wait for the correct one from the dealer?
Also, is the snap ring (also called retaining ring) the only applicable piece here? E-ring or any others applicable?
After looking at that little bolt that holds the slider to the adjuster should I be putting locktite on it? Doesn't look like it had any from the factory but it's flimsy enough that it's hard to torque it accurately.
Finally, if you haven't seen one yet, Verslagen's mod is a real quality piece of work. Sure glad he stepped up to get a quality product out to us to remedy the only real Achilles's heel that I'm aware of on this bike.
A tip for fellow installers - if you accidentally brush that little plastic piece he put in there to hold it until it's installed, you will regret it. Spent a half an hour trying to get my daughter's eyebrow tweezers with fine point in between the gears to get it out. Note to self and others - always put rags under adjuster when working on it.
Thanks.

Title: Re: in the middle of the Verslavy install
Post by verslagen1 on 10/31/11 at 13:48:20

I have a couple of those rings extra.
One auto store or another should have it.
or a store that sells bearings.

Title: Re: in the middle of the Verslavy install
Post by kuri77 on 10/31/11 at 14:33:59

Tried the main hardware stores and they only go down to 10mm so I bought a couple of 5/16 and they seem to fit fine. Thinner though so what do you think?

Title: Re: in the middle of the Verslavy install
Post by verslagen1 on 10/31/11 at 14:44:16

Really just need to hold it on, no end load.

So should be fine.

Title: Re: in the middle of the Verslavy install
Post by kuri77 on 10/31/11 at 15:03:29

That's what I was thinking too, thanks

Title: Re: in the middle of the Verslavy install
Post by Boofer on 10/31/11 at 23:27:40

I just did my cam adjuster and plug cap. I didn't remove the adjuster body or circlip. I held the extender in with one hand and screwed the bolt in the adjuster with the other. Tightened good and tight with a drip of Loctite blue. Made a 75 mile test ride today in full sun, yellow leaves, and 68 degree weather. No problems. My motto is: "Don't take nothing off you don't have to." And only half of what you have to. ;)

Title: Re: in the middle of the Verslavy install
Post by kuri77 on 10/31/11 at 23:58:58

I think you're confused about what I was doing Boofer. I was putting on the new Verslavy and it consists of a new body and a new plunger. No way to install it without taking off the clip, putting on the new body and then replacing the clip. If I could of got away with doing it any other way I would have. Pretty flimsy clip but as Verslagen said there isn't any force on it, just prevents it from sliding off the shaft. So I put on a 5/16 inch clip which is readily available at any hardware store as opposed to the 8mm which is not.

Title: Re: in the middle of the Verslavy install
Post by ALfromN.H. on 11/01/11 at 04:09:18

When I did the verslagen mod, my clip went flying and I couldn't find it. Got one at the suzuki shop for 68 cents. Got an extra one just in case I lose another one. I was gonna just put it back together without any clip but decided against it.

AL

Title: Re: in the middle of the Verslavy install
Post by RidgeRunner13 on 11/01/11 at 06:11:52

5/16" = 7.9375mm. I wouldn't worry about using a 5/16" clip at all. It will work just fine. 8-)

Title: Re: in the middle of the Verslavy install
Post by Boofer on 11/01/11 at 18:29:02

37292E356B6B5C0 wrote:

Not confused at all. I just told how I did it without strapping the spring and plunger in. I'm all about using whatever tool I can reach, skinned fingers, a little fire, and success. I did a Mississippi half Verslavy with help from some local Vocational Technical welders. Verslavy is the way to go if you have the time and money. He has a great system priced right, imo. I hope we both get several more trouble free miles. :)

Title: Re: in the middle of the Verslavy install
Post by kuri77 on 11/01/11 at 20:05:39

I think I got it. You didn't take the clip off because without the new Verslavy body to install you can just add the plunger while holding it in? If that isn't it then I'm the one who is confused.

Title: Re: in the middle of the Verslavy install
Post by drums1 on 11/02/11 at 09:34:14

That's what he meant, I'm sure.

The spring in the plunger is not that bad to hold together with just your fingers. I did my Verslavy, no problem.

And ya, the clip just holds the butt end on the shaft. As long as the clip "snaps" on, there should be no problem. It doesn't have to be exactly, perfectly tight. If it can't vibrate off, it ain't goin' nowhere.

Title: Re: in the middle of the Verslavy install
Post by kuri77 on 11/02/11 at 16:25:26

Thanks to everyone who chimed in with answers/suggestions.