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Title: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 14:26:20 Ok so I have my 2006 with about 7000 on it. I was riding to work today on the freeway. All of the sudden the bike died. No bang, no noise, no smoke no nothing. Just turned off. So I had it trucked home. When I got home I noticed that a wiring harness containing 2 wires has fallen on the rear tire and chewed up. These 2 wires run down to the cable connector for the rear tire. I spliced everything back together and now have bigger problems. When in gear clutch in the starter does nothing or just hums, When in neutral, the starter spins, but does not start. It sounds like the starter is spinning but the engine is not turning over. It won't push start either. I have no idea what happened. ANY HELP????!!!!! |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by RidgeRunner13 on 10/20/11 at 14:46:16 Not sure what you're referring to as the cable connector but first step when bike dies for no apparent mechanical reason is to check: battery, connections, & fuses. It will not run if battery voltage is too low. 8-) |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 14:48:42 Battery is only 3 weeks old, and I assumed it died due to the wires that were chewed up. Low battery would not explain why starter turns in N but not in gear. p.s. connector i am speaking of is behind rear brake pedal. 2 wires lead into a connector that runs to brake pedal |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 15:39:55 Don't think so Serow. tried jumping it across. At least I think so. It's hard to tell cause if its not the issue it still won't start :-) Any other way to bypass it and see if thats the case? Also if its the side stand why wouldnt it start in neutral??? It turns over in neutral but does nothing in gear. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Demin on 10/20/11 at 15:50:46 Is your stand up,when trying it in gear?I would check more wires.Possibly another wire disconnected. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 15:52:01 OK NEW SYMPTOM. When in gear, clutch in, the starter is running. The bike wont start but it "walks forward" When motor is running the bike moves forward. Only when stand up clutch in. Stand down= NOTHING |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Demin on 10/20/11 at 16:01:29 They're designed not to run in gear with the stand down.Sounds like clutch might need adjusted some. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 16:03:53 Ya but stand down and clutch in it should still turn over. and when in neutral the bike should start regardless so........ |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/20/11 at 16:13:03 I would take the battery to town & have it tested & charged. Until you are certain its good & fully charged, you can chase phantoms. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 16:24:01 The battery is fine. It is new, the bike started fine this morning, and dead battery would not cause the bike to "walk itself" when i engage the starter. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by MrBrownTX on 10/20/11 at 16:26:25 If you're saying its lunging forward like the clutch isn't in it sounds like the clutch is your problem. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 16:27:20 Thats what I am thinking. Only why won't it start in N? The clutch matters not when its in neutral????? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/20/11 at 16:29:36 yeah, but you had a short. No telling how much juice got bled off. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 16:30:53 But the battery still doesnt explain the walking in gear NEW SYMPTOM: When in gear kickstand down- starter does nothing When in gear kickstand up- dont even need clutch in to start. And when I do it does the walk forward So obviously my clutch is messed somehow. But where. Why can I start it without clutch in while in gear? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/20/11 at 16:38:24 415A534754000 wrote:
3. hums, not clicking? 4.spins... but engine doesn't turn over. 3 tells me your decomp is out of adjustment 4... is the engine spinning? And if it's lurching forward, your clutch is out of adjustment. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by bill67 on 10/20/11 at 16:46:31 If everything was working right before its got to be in the wiring. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 16:57:26 I agree bill. I just don't know where or what. Something to do with the clutch. Like you said all of this didn't start all of the sudden. it all has to be the same problem. Vers-read my last post on page 1 |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 17:03:32 Is it possible my clutch plates are stuck. Read some stuff and it kinda sounds like it. When I try to start I don't even need to use the clutch cause the plates are stuck engages. doesn't explain why bike won't start but explains everything else. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/20/11 at 17:04:28 150E071300540 wrote:
You may have shorted the clutch safety circuit somewhere. AHA! let me look this up 1st. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 17:11:53 No V no walking out of gear only in. Out of gear starter just spins |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/20/11 at 17:15:33 http://www.savageriders.com/verslagen/images/'96-'03Startingcircuit.jpg Your clutch safety isn't working, so I'd start there. it's got a short to ground I'd bet. somewhere the brake light wire crosses over it probably under the tank. got a volt meter? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 17:16:28 No V I dont but I will be tracing wires all night. Thanks!! |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 17:36:12 Any chance you could give me a little more guidance with this wire. Anything. Color? Location? Start and end points. Anything so I can track it down. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Boofer on 10/20/11 at 17:39:48 There is a blue wire under the fuel tank that may have come undone. If so, it won't run at all with stand down...in neutral or otherwise. Usually runs on the left side of frame. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Grand Strand on 10/20/11 at 17:48:00 What are the wires that go in the side cover near the clutch? Is that the neutral switch? So.. could that be related to the wire that was chewed up pulled out of place interfering inside the clutch pack? Could the wiring be part of the physical/mechanical issue? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/20/11 at 17:51:10 I suggest you get a vom meter. just a few bucks at hf. otherwise you're looking for a needle in a hay stack. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 18:03:06 Got a test light. Still don't know what wires to test Dont want to test all 4000 wires till i find it. Need any hint!! |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 20:06:27 K tried everything and just can not figure out where the issue is. i have the seat and tank off, but just cant figure out this darn wiring diagram. Where precisely is the clutch position switch |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/20/11 at 20:12:55 clutch safety is right next to the clutch lever |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 20:28:15 K so what do I need to do to get it fixed. i guess I am not quite understanding what is wrong and how to fix it. I know you said that I had a wire grounding out, but I have no idea what wire or how to fix said wire. Vers, walk me through it like a small child, as I am mechanically dumb! |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by RidgeRunner13 on 10/20/11 at 20:32:08 574453524D4046444F10210 wrote:
Pull connector loose & use a spade terminal plugged into the connector to bypass switch. When you say starter just spins do you mean it runs but does not crank engine over? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 20:34:54 No it turns engine over but it never gets lit. Just cranks. Which connector do you mean? I dont see a connector near my clutch lever other than Just the cable itself. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by RidgeRunner13 on 10/20/11 at 20:50:01 Should be harness with 2 wires on underside of clutch lever bracket. But if your starter is working without pulling in lever it may already be bypassed. Did you have to pull clutch lever in before problem occurred? When you said starter was just spinning earlier thought you meant it wasn't turning engine. Pull the spark plug, put wire on spark plug, hold base of spark plug against cyl. head, hit starter button to spin engine over & look for plug firing. How much fuel do you have? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Demin on 10/20/11 at 20:51:41 Just under the clutch lever.This is an older one. http://p1.bikepics.com/2008/06/24/bikepics-1331780-full.jpg |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/20/11 at 21:15:21 http://smileyicons.net/s/323.png smaller pics please i see there's been some issues in the past and i think all clutch switches are the same. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by RidgeRunner13 on 10/20/11 at 21:19:34 263522233C3137353E61500 wrote:
Believe pics are Demins' bike, V. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/20/11 at 21:20:47 5F444D594A1E0 wrote:
I think we're back to the battery. if it turns, it should be able to fire, unless the battery is worn down. do yourself a favor, unplug the headlight. take sparky out and check the spark have we checked gas yet? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Markusublime on 10/20/11 at 21:55:25 I agree,if you can get it to crank in neutral,you should check for spark,and make sure it wasn't a case of low fuel level.first time I ran out of gas on my bike was on the highway too,it just quit really quick.set the petcock to prime and check your engine for spark.being non computerized these engines only need fuel,spark (at the proper time),and compression to start.check for all 3 first,before you get too far into hunting wiring. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 22:00:10 704B46454770574C4C47501311220 wrote:
Yes before now I had to pull the clutch in too start. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 22:01:33 Not low fuel I had just filled up that morning. I will check spark and battery. What concerns me the most is the fact that when I pull in the clutch and hit starter the starter is moving the bike forward. Something it never did before. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 22:06:34 362532332C2127252E71400 wrote:
I think we're back to the battery. if it turns, it should be able to fire, unless the battery is worn down. do yourself a favor, unplug the headlight. take sparky out and check the spark have we checked gas yet?[/quote] It also wouldnt push start, which it should even with a dead battery |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/20/11 at 22:15:44 If its really a low, low battery, it wont fire the plug, The walking in gear is surely taxing that starter hard, eating juice outta the battery, Why wont it start in neutral? Darnfino,, |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by RidgeRunner13 on 10/20/11 at 22:17:42 Bike clutches always have some drag when starting in gear. If it fires right up, you may not notice it. Unless I stall out in traffic, I always start in neutral because it's less load on the starter. I bypassed my clutch switch because I don't like the clutch spring pressure pushing against the bearings behind it. Just a me thing from running a high pressure performance clutch in a hotrod in my younger days & having it 'kill' the crankshaft thrust bearing by starting with the clutch depressed. Expensive lessons stay with me for a lifetime. 8-) |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/20/11 at 22:22:51 607B726675210 wrote:
Have you ever push started before? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Markusublime on 10/20/11 at 22:26:34 If you find that you have spark,you may wanna consider pulling the side cover on the engine and checking your cam chain tensioner.if it came apart it could cause a no start and clutch hang up.just an afterthought. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 22:26:57 445B5D5A4740714171495B571C2E0 wrote:
Dont know. Hopefully tomorrow when the sun comes up, I will do the fuel, spark, check. Must not be getting one. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 22:27:43 5B485F5E414C4A48431C2D0 wrote:
Have you ever push started before?[/quote] Yes when I had starting issues before. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by RidgeRunner13 on 10/20/11 at 22:33:30 Did the mangled wires you found look melted? If so, you may have to open up the harness & check for other wires it may have melted into, which could explain no longer needing to pull the clutch lever in. Just a thought I had. :o |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/20/11 at 22:35:38 330805060433140F0F04135052610 wrote:
No thankfully, there was only 2 wires in the harness so nothing else was melted |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by RidgeRunner13 on 10/20/11 at 22:42:38 That harness joins the main one at some point, and then those wires are part of a larger bundle of wires. If they were melted at all, you'll need to find that point & start looking in that area. A melted wire can cause the clutch switch problem, & may have melted through several wires. :( |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/21/11 at 06:51:59 Ok Where is my clutch lever position switch or what does it look like. I dont think mine is working. I dont need to pull the clutch to start the bike. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/22/11 at 16:21:07 I still can not figure this thing out and i am at my wits end. Anyone wanna buy a 2006 bobber????? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by MrBrownTX on 10/22/11 at 16:32:17 This guy recently posted a picture of it http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1319199564 |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/11 at 16:36:37 Dont panic,, itll fix,, just take some time, read the posts, look for anything youve left out, details., |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/22/11 at 16:39:49 I am pretty sure I dont have spark. I stuck my test light in the plug wire and cranked it, no light. Wont push start, so it is not battery, at least not only the battery. It has something to do with my clutch or clutch sensor cause i can crank without touching the clutch while in gear. Now I am out of my league and DO NOT want to put any $ into this thing. If I can't figure it out myself, I quit :) |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/22/11 at 16:48:13 1) Wont light but will crank 2) Wont push start. Cycles but wont light. 3) Cranks only with stand up. In gear or N. 4) Will crank in gear, without me touching the clutch. 5) I believe there is no spark. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/22/11 at 17:16:36 18030A1E0D590 wrote:
1st of all, you just plugged your light into a 10,000 volt socket. are you sure you got a filament still? use a sparky |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/22/11 at 17:26:10 617A736774200 wrote:
3... might be that side stand diode again Neutral light working? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/22/11 at 17:29:36 Ya v I thought of that. i tested the light before and after. I dont have the tool to take the plug out or that would have been my first choice. This is my theory. I think it is all through my clutch safety. The bike wont turn over when the stand is down. I think its because the bike never knows the clutch is in or out. Thats also why it will start in gear without clutch. Now knowing that I shredded some wires, I assume its electrical. I just dont know where the clutch position sensor is. If the bike thinks the clutch is always in it will let it crank, but because the clutch is actually not, it just cranks, bucks, and doesnt light |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/22/11 at 17:30:23 2F3C2B2A35383E3C3768590 wrote:
3... might be that side stand diode again Neutral light working? [/quote] Mine is bobbed so I have no N light. how do i go about by passing side stand safety? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/22/11 at 17:31:27 have you checked your fuses? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/22/11 at 17:32:34 yup a couple times. That was my first thought when it happened. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/22/11 at 17:35:51 59424B5F4C180 wrote:
I don't think it has anything to do with your side stand safety, it works. Your clutch safety don't work like it's supposed to, you should be tracing that. you need to investigate anything out of the ordinary. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/22/11 at 17:36:54 Thats what I am having trouble locating. i dont know where it is or what it even looks like |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Serowbot on 10/22/11 at 17:37:02 Bypass both,... the clutch lever cutout, and the kickstand cutout... ... if the problem's fixed,.. hook one back up... reverse elimination... ... if the problem's still there... check back here... Yeah,... I'll buy it,.. for the right price... but, you'll be sorry... The symptoms you are having, are proof to me, that it's not a big problem... just a little frustrating... Relax,.. it'll fix... ;)... |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/22/11 at 17:38:40 7264736E76636E75010 wrote:
Great idea serow. But how do I do those????? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Serowbot on 10/22/11 at 17:41:50 Already explained the kickstand... 6670677A62777A61150 wrote:
... for the clutch,... just disconnect at the lever, and bridge those wires there... |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/22/11 at 18:07:58 1204130E16030E15610 wrote:
... for the clutch,... just disconnect at the lever, and bridge those wires there...[/quote] OK Got the side stand bypassed so bike cranks in n again. But the clutch safety was already bypassed. There is no wiring going to my clutch at all. How many and what color would be a huge help :-[ |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by baker87 on 10/22/11 at 21:17:29 Check your oil..... i had the same problem, no oil... and check your clutch arm to see if it is hanging...... the clutch position sensor should be at the back of the engine clutch cover i think..... and final, the cps controls creates ground for power ignition...... the cdi box could have a short inside...... and have the battery load tested..... i had a battery that charged fine but it would not start a bike at all...... |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/23/11 at 00:09:37 OK so I went through every singe harness with a volt meter and all checked out. I pulled the spark plug and I have spark. Full tank of gas. So I have AIR, FUEL, SPARK. Should start, but still no. Could it be my cam chain tensioner took a poop?? Would that let engine crank but not start? What are my chances of serious damage to my engine? :-[ |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/23/11 at 00:37:52 Did you have any noises before this happened? extra loud valve ticking? chain dragging across aluminum pots sound? clacking by your right ankle? Do you have any of these sounds now? no? then not much chance |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/23/11 at 00:43:18 I havent read it all, sorry if youve answered this, but year & mileage would be my next question. Also, what happened when it quit last time it was running? Anything strange? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Markusublime on 10/23/11 at 08:51:24 You forgot one more thing....compression.no compression=no start.if your chain tensioner popped out and the chain jumped,you might not get any or enough compression. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Serowbot on 10/23/11 at 09:25:30 I'd rcommend staying out of the engine and carb... This is an electric problem... "starts sometimes, not others", "in gear, out of gear"... "cranks, don't crank"... ... these are not timing chain problems... not carb problems... Stay away from them... I know you've looked,.. but you missed something... Going in deep to engine mechanicals , is a snipe hunt... Electrical........... something in the cut-outs... Go elsewhere, and you'll end up fcking something else up... |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/23/11 at 09:26:49 Ya Vers it was ticking a bit but not serious clacking and none when it cranks now. So it may not be tensioner. Its a 2006 with 7k on it. So what else am I missing here? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/23/11 at 09:29:38 It never actually starts Serow. Just cranks. Have Fuel, Have spark, Have air. If it was electrical, wouldnt one of those not be happening? Unless Sublime is right and I have no compression. only thing left in the starting mix. So again I am stuck. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Serowbot on 10/23/11 at 10:19:15 59424B5F4C180 wrote:
Your mix didn't change when the wire came lose on the highway... If at this point, you've gotten fuel, spark, and air... you may have cranked so long that you've gas washed the cylinder... Pull the plug,... put a squirt of oil in the plug hole, put the plug back in, and crank a few times... then, pull the plug, and install a new, clean one... charge battery to full... temporarily, disconnect your headlight to get more cranking power...(leave it disconnected 'till you get this problem worked out)... Then try starting... Choke on, no throttle... set to prime if you have stock petcock... |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/23/11 at 11:23:11 Is it possible he's got the decomp hanging up? Unplug the thing one time,, When upi hit the starter, if it seems like its not able to get it spinning over Right Away, let go the dang Button,, get the engine on intake nor exhaust,, anything but compression, then try again. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Serowbot on 10/23/11 at 11:58:25 6C7375726F6859695961737F34060 wrote:
Anything's possible, but I doubt it would happen in tandem with the electrical mishap that started this... |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by RidgeRunner13 on 10/23/11 at 12:04:39 If it has lost more than a little compression, it will sound different from before when cranking. Got another spark plug you can try? A plug that will fire out of the cylinder, may not fire under compression. VW dealer I worked for years ago had a tester you screwed the plug into & could put air pressure to as you watched the spark. You could see a bad plug stop firing as the pressure rose. ;D |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/23/11 at 12:16:17 plugs are cheap,, slap a fresh one in. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/23/11 at 12:34:06 I tried unplugging the decomp solenoid. Made no difference. Will try the spark plug idea. But what would have caused me plug to randomly go bad while going down the freeway |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/23/11 at 12:37:38 P.S. Bike is really on the chopping block. Looking to sell or possibly part out if anyone is interested |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/23/11 at 12:52:42 Calm down,, it aint daid! |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by MrBrownTX on 10/23/11 at 15:27:24 I'll pay $500 delivered to Dallas TX. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Serowbot on 10/23/11 at 16:15:25 485747574A524B515D250 wrote:
$500... I'll come get it, and buy you lunch... but you'll be sorry, this will fix, cheap and easy... just be patient... ;)... |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 10/23/11 at 16:24:31 Oh I believe its fixable. I just do not know what the issue us so I have no idea how to fix it. Now I am going out of town for a week for work, so it is gonna sit for the week while I rack my brain even more as to what to do. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by verslagen1 on 10/23/11 at 16:49:19 stop and get yourself a sparky and some starting fluid. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/23/11 at 17:21:44 657E776370240 wrote:
Dont do that,, quit your job!.,, Err, I mean,, dont do that,, dont worry about it,, Its gonna be okay,, relax, we will get you thru this,, IF not, you will be the first. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Bubba on 10/24/11 at 06:59:37 ya didn't happen to take the stator cover off while you've been trying to fix this did you? |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 11/13/11 at 17:14:55 Well figured it all out. When I ripped the wire, it also threw the timing chain, broke a tooth on the sprocket, and bent the valves. All at the same time SOOOOO I have moved on to a HD. Thanks to everyone in this forum for any and hall help you have offered. I will continue to lurk, as the knowledge here goes far beyond just savages. This is a great site, and a great resource, keep it going, and THANKS AGAIN |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Serowbot on 11/13/11 at 17:33:53 4F545D495A0E0 wrote:
Well, I'll be boogered... I was sure that wasn't it... :-?... ;D... good luck wit' da' Hog... ;)... |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Oldfeller on 11/14/11 at 01:37:14 Sorry, I ain't buying it, any of it. I call bullshite on this whole thing ..... having just read it from start to finish. Stock engine cannot "bend the valves" as the piston never gets that high. This person has been trolling us along for a bit with his endless very vague "issue" which keeps rolling along and rolling along from one side of the engine to the other and now to the top of the engine. He simply responds back to you with whatever you tell him. .... now he's ripped his wire and threw his timing chain and broke a tooth on his sprocket and bent all his valves .... oooooh !! Dude, your "timing chain" isn't a chain and it doesn't run on a sprocket. Sorry, I call bullshite .... quit wasting your time on this guy. No wrench has ever darkened his palm on this one, ever. If he has a Savage to break for parts, I wouldn't buy a part from him as he couldn't even take it off with the skills he has shown us so far. Hurleys require a lot more maintenance than a Savage -- good luck with that new Hurley. This one was either the most unskilled newbie ever -- or a keyboard troll out for amusement from the very beginning. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by arteacher on 11/14/11 at 04:13:17 I agree- if he did all that damage then it wouldn't spin at all without sounding like shaking a pot full of marbles. Just a troll. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Serowbot on 11/14/11 at 07:41:09 Think maybe he took it to someone, and they sold him a bag of goods... and a Harley...?... :-?... The Sarge was standing member here for while,... not trolling... ;)... |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by AZSGT on 11/14/11 at 18:31:33 With all due respect to you Oldfeller- Go fu.ck yourself. The bike broke down, wouldnt start, don't know why. Took it to a mechanic, that is what he told me. I have been on this site a little while, both helping and asking, and not "trolling". That may the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Because I don't know something that means I am dumb and trolling. The Harley was a gift, bigger, and it ran. No offense to any Thumpers, as I loved mine, but I decided enough was enough and moved on. So I sold the bike for what I could get out of it, and if I got fleeced, eh it happens. Not the end of the world. I still think this is a great site, and with the exception of Oldfellers dumb ass ignorance, full of great people. |
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Title: Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Post by Oldfeller on 11/14/11 at 19:48:14 So, the lightly broken Savage is all gone now and AZSGT rides off into the sunset on his bigger "gift" Hurley, having had the last word ..... Thread's locked, show's over ..... ;D ;D ;D signed "the dumbass ignorant" Oldfeller |
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