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Title: Placebo Effect... Post by Serowbot on 10/09/11 at 10:33:33 An article from Main St. pointed out 5 common things that people think work, that usually don't... 1. "Close door" buttons in elevators... 2. HDTV's with standard programming... 3. Walk signal buttons... 4. Butt toner shoes... 5. Office thermostats... Here's a few bike related things that have, at least some element of placebo effect... 1. Premium gas... 2. fuel additives.. 3. open pipes... 4. fork bracing... 5. belt centering alignment... 6. "special" spark plugs... 7. bigger jets... Agree?,.. Disagree?... any others?... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/11 at 10:36:57 voting NOt because voting in & of itself is futile, but until now we havent had anyone with any measurable degree of difference, IOW, regardless of party affiliation, its been a steady continuation of policy,, However,, electing Ron Paulo would make voting a worthwhile venture again. |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by Gyrobob on 10/09/11 at 10:56:39 3F293E233B2E23384C0 wrote:
Excellent concept. I agree with your motorcycle-oriented items, since you did qualify the situation by saying, "at least some ... placebo effect." I'd add K&N filters and schmagnets to the list. |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by Boule’tard on 10/09/11 at 11:25:02 3F293E233B2E23384C0 wrote:
I dunno.. those iridium plugs do do something. One bike had a noticeable hiccup (like ignition cutting out for a tenth second) and the gurus recommended an iridium plug, because it cured the same problem on their bikes.. I was skeptical but forked over the 10 bucks anyway. The iridium plug greatly reduced the hiccuping. I use iridium plugs in my DR (yes, 2 plugs). I figure they deliver a good hot spark with slightly better reliability than conventional plugs. Much like the schmagnets, I know there is some benefit that I can't quantify. But even if the benefit is low... meh, so was the cost. |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by verslagen1 on 10/09/11 at 11:46:22 more or less you have to define the symptoms in order to define the placebo. 1. Premium gas... in a high compression engine is necessary. or in our engines and you're out in the boondocks where reg. gas is aged. 2. fuel additives.. seafoam in a bike that's been sitting for 20 yrs won't do any good, but may free a sticky slide. 3. open pipes... for what reason? loud or performance? 4. fork bracing... on smooth roads vs. rain grooves... depends on locale 5. belt centering alignment... vs. waxing? I think you got it reversed here. You wax cause you can't get rid of the chirp by adjustment. 6. "special" spark plugs... yes, any new plug will make a difference, the question is for how long? 7. bigger jets... should be rejetting, the question is are you rejetting cause everyone else did or is your bike running crappy? |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by Serowbot on 10/09/11 at 12:23:55 I said "bigger jets" purposely,... meaning that correct jetting will make your bike run best,... not just bigger jets = more power... |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by RidgeRunner13 on 10/09/11 at 12:27:21 Wonder how many have put in larger jets trying to correct a problem caused by less than full fuel flow from the vacuum petcock? |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by Boule’tard on 10/09/11 at 13:43:37 Heh heh. you guys are practically begging Routy to come in here and say any good effects of a manual petcock are just placebo effect. There are many good mods, like the fork brace, that definitely have some good effect, but the perceived benefits get magnified by the placebo effect. Few things that people advocate are 100% placebo effect. Pardon the un-tabled political example.. but here in Austin there are many bumper stickers that have the glorified Obama image.. you know, colorized like an Andy Warhol piece.. and below that is a banner that says "YES, WE DID." These guys never heard of the electoral college, or by some convoluted reasoning think that Texas votes somehow helped to get Obama elected. That my friends, is a pure example of the placebo effect. |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/11 at 13:56:39 I used to try to catch up to people who had Bush/Cheney stickers,, so I could see what an idiot looked like.. Id do the same if I ever saw a Bammy sticker,, I just dont see them,, I guess they got scraped off already.. political stickers otta be velcro,, |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by Serowbot on 10/09/11 at 14:19:04 To some extent,... I might add forward controls,.. or the perceived need for more legroom... ... when you consider,... no one ever complained about legroom when "standard" bikes were the standard... People basically just like the feet forward position,... mostly fashion... I know that will stir some souls... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by bill67 on 10/09/11 at 14:59:21 If you go to manual petcock,Always carry a a cup of flour with you to put out the fire,if you drop the bike over. |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by bill67 on 10/09/11 at 15:02:27 6F7076716C6B5A6A5A62707C37050 wrote:
I have a new sticker on my car it says Nein Nein Nein |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/11 at 15:27:22 I think thatys a great idea/// justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper ***** Re: YOU MUST BE THIS TALL TO SIT At THIS TABLE Reply #3226 - 10/05/11 at 23:34:29 Alert Board Moderator about this Post! Quote Modify Remove nein , nein, nein.. |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by skatnbnc on 10/09/11 at 19:16:18 My t-cat fork brace was NOT a placebo effect - the minute I put it on I could tell the difference. I ride a lot of back roads with tar strips and bumps - a stiffer fork brace made a noticable difference; better handling and not so 'wobbly'. As for the seafoam; i figure it cant hurt to drop some in my fuel tank since my riding time has gone down due to medical issues. If it helps fine, if not, no great loss. |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by Gyrobob on 10/10/11 at 05:48:28 564E44514B474B46250 wrote:
My t-cat fork brace was NOT a placebo effect - the minute I put it on I could tell the difference. Look at the way he qualified his statement. He said, "at least SOME placebo effect." He did not say all the items on the list were worthless. As for the seafoam;...my riding time has gone down due to medical issues. Try less seafoam, maybe you won't have so many medical issues. If it helps fine, if not, no great loss. This is exactly what he meant by saying "at least SOME placebo effect." Minor issue: Tkat not t-cat ::) |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by thumperclone on 10/10/11 at 06:23:10 office thermostats our were under locked covers the ceos secetary was always complaining too hot too cold finally installed her own t stat 20 min job took all day runnin the wire thru the drop ceiling had to get on her desk etc when done she had her own stat could reach it from her chair the thing was never hooked up but she never complained again |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by arteacher on 10/10/11 at 06:31:28 786E79647C69647F0B0 wrote:
I have arthritis in my hips. The forward controls make it easier for me to get my feet on the pegs, and are more comfy for me. |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by Boule’tard on 10/10/11 at 06:34:03 D'Oh my bad, I just realized Serowbot made 2 lists, one for full placebos and one for partial placebos. The Tkat is probably the least placeboey item there. |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by verslagen1 on 10/10/11 at 07:34:36 Oversized text in posts |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/10/11 at 07:42:43 Shouting at people who dont speak the language you speak,, |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by Gyrobob on 10/10/11 at 09:23:31 372433322D2026242F70410 wrote:
Yeah, that is placebo for sure. Sorta like undersized text, as well. |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by bill67 on 10/10/11 at 10:10:36 Over size texts is for if you are special people,I mean special needs people. |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by Serowbot on 10/10/11 at 10:52:19 I might also add,... half-helmets... In all my get-offs, (and I've had my share)... I've never managed to land directly on the top of my bean... :-?... Oh!.... and a locking gas cap... I mean, really... is it locking stuff in, or out?.. either way,... it's hopeless... Just think about it,... it's easier to steal your gas from the fuel line... and sabotage is more effective in your crankcase through the oil filler hole... Anybody lock that?... ... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by Gyrobob on 10/10/11 at 12:43:31 4A5C4B564E5B564D390 wrote:
Good point. I think I'll deactivate the s on all my motorcycle gas tanks. Methinks I'll have to make sure they deactivate to the unlocked configuration, eh? I see the possibility of locking it with no way to unlock it. |
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Title: Re: Placebo Effect... Post by Gyrobob on 10/10/11 at 12:46:41 7F7471712B2A1D0 wrote:
You've gotten a bit away from the thread here. The subject is items or procedures that make people think something is happening when it really doesn't,... you know,.. like seafoam. |
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