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Message started by Bobber Fett on 10/08/11 at 08:27:36

Title: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by Bobber Fett on 10/08/11 at 08:27:36

I figure I should ask these while I'm still a nooB because they seem like dumb questions.

1.)  Is the rear brake light only supposed to turn on when I hit the foot brake, or should the hand brake also close the circuit. (cause mine dont, and I can't find it in Clymer)

2.)  Do the rear brakes have a squealer on the pads?  Mine are hideously noisy and I don't wanna go into the wheel if it's just normal noise.

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by verslagen1 on 10/08/11 at 08:30:03

1. yes

2. no, but they are known to squeal.  what's your mileage?  and it's not normal for them to wear out.

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/11 at 08:30:39

Note the switch on the brake lever..

Disco & short wires, see if lite comes on,, check for V there,


Brakes arent worn out, bet on it.

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by Bobber Fett on 10/08/11 at 08:45:36

My bad justin.  I meant to imply that my brake light only comes on during foot brake application.  My lights are working when I hit the foot brake.  See all questions can be dumb if asked improperly ;D.

As for the sound, the bike is 20,200 miles old, but I've only owned it for 1,000.  I'm still trying to work out where all the "previous owner problems" might be.  Is there any way to get rid of the sound?  It sounds like a car squealer.  I'd like to turn heads, but not THAT way.

My belt also seems to make a (much quieter) squeak, and I think I saw a forum post a while back about belt noise.

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/11 at 08:49:09

Yea,, I got that.. look up on the hand brake lever, unhook the switch, check for 12 V,, IF you got 12 volts, a paperclip will short them together, make a U shape,, lite otta come on.,


CAREFULLY clean the dust outta the rear drum.,

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by Bobber Fett on 10/08/11 at 08:55:20

Very cool, I'll try do do both today and see how it works.

Carefully as in "don't breath it in" carefully, or "you'll lose a million pieces" carefully?

Thanks guys!

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/11 at 09:06:55

Dont breathe it in,, Its a pretty crude setup,, big clunky & simple, youre not gonna lose anything. Gotta pull the wheel,, Unhook the brake, I put the wingnut back on & keep all the goodies on the rod. Spacers are different, pay attention, Marksfor aligning the rear wheel arent known for their accuracy, align rear wheel with eyes open,. OHH,, & dont get the little chrome thing upside down,, or youll have NO marks,

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by Bobber Fett on 10/08/11 at 09:09:17

Hmmm, so the marks are not great.  Is there an alternative?

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by Serowbot on 10/08/11 at 09:31:19

1.... front brake should operate brake light...  Like JOG said, test the switch...

2... Adjuster marks will get you real close,... use them, lightly snug the wheel,.. and double check using a yardstick, laid against the tire... sight down the yardstick and see that the tire looks to be running parallel to the swingarm, beltguard, and bike in general...

(Surest way to quiet the rear brake, is to use the front more)... ;D...

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by verslagen1 on 10/08/11 at 09:34:12


022F34373A22560 wrote:
Hmmm, so the marks are not great.  Is there an alternative?

I don't mess with the adjusters unless the belt needs aligning.
just pull the axle and you'll have all the room you need to take off the belt.

I also take off the left shock and upper belt guard.

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by Bobber Fett on 10/08/11 at 14:02:52

Well, I didn't get to the rear wheel today.  I opened up the switch to check it and it's beyond repair.  I spent a long time cleaning, retesting, re-soldering connections that were busted, and in the end the switch is just dead.  It's a really crappy switch design, they didn't happen to upgrade it in later models did they?

It's basically a pair of rails with a sliding copper square that electrically connects the two if the switch is moved past a certain position, and disconnects it if its moved back.  However, the rails have worn down so far that the square no longer connects them, and in trying to fix it, the copper piece disappeared into a hole in the floor (oops).

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by verslagen1 on 10/08/11 at 15:43:28

later models use a common snap switch.

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by Serowbot on 10/08/11 at 16:29:22


Quote:
They say there are no dumb questions...


People say to me all the time,... "How dumb are you?"...

Now, that's a dumb question... :-?...

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by gerald.hughes on 10/08/11 at 17:06:14

Stop avoiding the question. How dumb are you?
;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by Serowbot on 10/08/11 at 22:24:21

Not half as dumb as I look,... I'll tell you that...
Not even close.....  :-?...

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by Bobber Fett on 10/09/11 at 15:45:16

I have an old snap switch in the NC configuration and was thinking of building a custom bracket to mount it, but will the new handle fit in the old handle's place on the bike?  has anyone tried it (without a master cylinder trade out)?

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/11 at 16:03:15

Be careful here,, Ive been real bad about not spending a dime when I could make something work,, & later realized I had WAY too much time in it & wuld have been better off just buying a new one,,

& what happens when you get 5 hours in & realize its not gonna work as well as you want it? Will it handle a rainstorm?

Buy a new switch,, & spend that fabrication time doing something that needs done around the house,, or take somone out to a movie,,

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by Boofer on 10/10/11 at 20:09:29

Time spent tooling on a mc is not wasted unless you get all like throwing stuff and cussing the dog. It is as relaxing as riding if done right. When I grew up I decided I was never going to work on a vehicle in the freezing cold at night with a flashlight that you had to shake constantly. Unless it was an emergency. Working on your emergency detecting skills is good, too.  ;D

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by Bobber Fett on 10/11/11 at 09:09:20

Yeah, I've been really busy and unable to respond, but I've been looking into buying a master cylinder to go the "full on replacement" route and it's not exactly inexpensive.  The few I've found have been either expensive or in really bad shape and need parts replaced.

Does anyone know if the front master cylinder from the VS1400 is the same?  Looking at the parts list from some of the OEM parts websites, they have the same part number.

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/11/11 at 17:33:18

& yes, they SAY there are no dumb questions, but I was watching TV the other nite & someone actually asked

Whats the number to 911...

& THAT M'frinz, is just DUMB..

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by greenmonster on 10/12/11 at 11:01:47

The number is 9 and 11. If you can't find the 11 on your phone it's because you're not looking hard enough!

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by Trippah on 10/14/11 at 15:28:54

Isn't that the point of the conversation you politely ask the guy with the cute mask to put down his gun and help you with your "new phone" ;)

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by verslagen1 on 10/14/11 at 15:33:05

naw you say "here's my phone" and as you hand him you 1 billion volt tazer phone you ask " do you want my wallet too? "   8-)

Title: Re: They say there are no dumb questions...
Post by BurnPgh on 10/17/11 at 07:36:04


0B141215080F3E0E3E06141853610 wrote:
& yes, they SAY there are no dumb questions, but I was watching TV the other nite & someone actually asked

Whats the number to 911...

& THAT M'frinz, is just DUMB..


My area's emergency number wasnt 911 for a long long time.
It was 795-3000.
If you called 911 you got city of Pgh not the most local dispatch. Eventually the area grew too big for its area code and now has 2.
412 and 724.
When that happened you had to dial the local area code before the number all the time, so the emergency number was switched to 911 so you didnt have to dial 10 numbers and 2 different local dispatch area codes....except i wasnt aware of that when my coworker had a seizure. I didnt know if my new job was 412 or 724, what the local dispatch number was, or if it under city of Pgh's 911.
Yes...I did, in fact, ask what the emergency number was and imagine how stupid i felt when i was told with an incredulous look ..."911"

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