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Message started by Arizuno on 10/02/11 at 17:00:05

Title: gas cap
Post by Arizuno on 10/02/11 at 17:00:05

By far my most embarrassing question to date. Reassembled gas cap after shimming gasket, reinstalled gas cap AND NOW I CAN'T REMOVE IT. Any ideas before I haul it off to a locksmith or M/C mechanic tomorrow?

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by arteacher on 10/02/11 at 17:32:26

One of two things happened:
When you put it back together you did not have the pins that pull the sliding clips in lined up properly. Did you test it after assembly and the pins retracted smoothly? If this is the problem I can't think of a way to fix it, other than drilling out the lock.
You have packed it out too much so those pins are binding. Try pushing down on the top of the cap and turning the key. Don't break the key or you are really screwed.

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by ero4444 on 10/02/11 at 17:34:41

geez. Don't drill it out.

You didn't change the pins right? Push on the cap while you are turning the lock cylinder. Sounds like the shim is too thick. I don't think you will need a locksmith.

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by verslagen1 on 10/02/11 at 17:36:30

5952525B5758594342360 wrote:

If this is the problem I can't think of a way to fix it, other than drilling out the lock.

Arrrgh! NO!

Quote:

You have packed it out too much so those pins are binding. Try pushing down on the top of the cap and turning the key. Don't break the key or you are really screwed.

YES, YES, YES!

Get a friend to help, push down hard. don't collapse the tank ::)

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by arteacher on 10/02/11 at 17:45:28

I made a boo boo :-[
I did not intend to recommend drilling out the lock, only that I couldn't think of anything else.
Very sorry.

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by verslagen1 on 10/02/11 at 18:03:40

drilling is a last resort when all else has failed.

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by Serowbot on 10/02/11 at 18:25:13

574453524D4046444F10210 wrote:

drilling is a last resort when all else has failed.

Naaa,... lighting the fuel in tank and blowing the cap off, is the LAST resort...

;D ;D ;D...

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by Fish on 10/02/11 at 19:06:29

So the drilling and making a spark into the tank would be the 2nd to last resort. Word.

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by Boofer on 10/03/11 at 01:18:38

I've never had a problem with leaks as some have, but it does get hard to turn the key at times. I just get a small tipped oil can and put a DROP of 30wt oil in the key slot, then push the key in and out a few times. Then I put a DROP in the little opening on the side of the cap by the gasket. Then I put a DROP on both of the locking lugs and again work the key several times. All this is done with the cap off. Works for me.

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by built2last66 on 10/03/11 at 01:46:40

If you could turn the key to get it on, you can turn the key if you press the gas cap down hard enough.. but careful not to break the key. I've gotten mine stuck a few times trying to fix the gas cap leak...

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by Arizuno on 10/04/11 at 18:44:45

Thanks, everyone. Taking it to an independent mechanic tomorrow, will attempt to ride with my fingers crossed. Neither muscle nor foul language would release the cap. Can't tell you how pleased I am with myself.

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by verslagen1 on 10/04/11 at 19:04:00

how about a fresh sheet of sand paper.
smooth side against the tank, maybe a little grease too.
and slowly work it under the rubber seal to grind it away.
and work it all the way around.

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by Arizuno on 10/05/11 at 11:47:23

Mechanic couldn't help, and we both think the lock is broken (mea culpa). Tomorrow I'm going to a locksmith, but assuming the worst, does anyone know of a good source for new cap/lock? I'm getting nowhere on Google, and I fear my bike will soon be dry docked for want of a cap. Thanks, amigos.

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by SurfJunkie on 10/05/11 at 12:07:17

Did you ever TEST the lock on the cap PRIOR to re-installing it ?

Or did you pull it apart, put it all back together, then blindly stick it back on the bike without a function test ?

How hard did you have to press to get the cap on ?

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by built2last66 on 10/06/11 at 07:29:15

I think you can buy plastic gas caps with out a lock, I saw them somewhere, eBay or random google searches...

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by babyhog on 10/06/11 at 10:31:01

So does the key go in, but won't turn? Or can you not get the key in at all? Does it turn even a little? Man, this is a stumper.... :-/

Check The Marketplace, or put a WTB there yourself. Surely someone has one. I sold the extra one I had.

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/11 at 16:12:52

You know,, when I messed with mine, I got it all put together, then poked the key in & Verified it worked, prior to Locking my tank closed with it..

Now, would I have done that when I was in my 20's? IDK, But Ive built myself enough "Bear Traps" & stepped in them down thru the years that I have learned to see a bit further down the road, Hope you get outta trouble soon.,

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by Classic650 on 10/11/11 at 06:33:36

I had the same problem. I got a locksmith & it cost me $10 to have it removed. Much better than drilling it out.

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by Arizuno on 10/21/11 at 18:08:05

My locksmith wasn't as useful as Classic650's. This is embarrassing, but I owe it to everyone to follow-up on my own dilemma. At the suggestion of another mechanic, I ordered a new cap (cheapcycleparts.com) and upon it's arrival extracted the old one with a Stanley pry-bar. Violent, but effective, 'though some of the old cap remains in the tank, and always will. Used a small cutting board wrapped in a towel to protect tank. No damage to opening or filler neck, new cap fits fine and, hey, it doesn't leak!

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by Arizuno on 10/21/11 at 18:15:40

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by Arizuno on 10/21/11 at 18:27:00

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by liltimmy on 02/05/12 at 08:39:15

Easy fix for the leaking gas cop. I took the tapered gasket out of a plastic bathroom sink p-trap installed it behind the tank gasket with the flat side to the gasket. Put it all back together and though it is a little tight to get on and off it has not leaked since. 3 years now no leak.

Title: Re: gas cap
Post by MotoBuddha on 02/05/12 at 10:38:57

This is one reason I hate locking gas caps. When I got my Ryca modified tank back, I had a guy replace the stock filler with one of these old style caps. Twist on and off, no complications.

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