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Title: Mixing oil? Post by arteacher on 10/01/11 at 07:33:57 Any problem with mixing Rotella blue 5-40 with Amsoil 20-50? |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/01/11 at 07:37:19 Theyre both slick & neither one will make the other stop being slick. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by arteacher on 10/01/11 at 07:39:17 That's what I thought. Just checking. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by verslagen1 on 10/01/11 at 07:43:08 supposedly, all petroleum products are mixable. but you're better off sticking to 1 product. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Gyrobob on 10/01/11 at 07:55:42 2D3E2928373A3C3E356A5B0 wrote:
I agree. Up until a few years ago, I was convinced that all oils marketed for a given purpose were mixable. I even thought the nanny state required it. A few years ago a buddy put some auto oil into his dirt bike just to top it off. It turned the oil milky. Of course, this is just anecdotal info. We still don't know what went on there,.. way too many variables. So, now, I still think there is not much risk to mixing brands of oils, BUT!!!,.. I prefer to use the same brand and weight of oil. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Serowbot on 10/01/11 at 08:26:29 That's gonna' make, Rotsoil Brown.... :-?... I sure wouldn't buy it if they called it that, but it will still do lubey things..... |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/01/11 at 11:30:20 I had to do some stuff inside the transaxle on the lawnmower, it had some odd lube in it, oil,, too thin, grease, kinda thick,, so I mixed grease & oil & some antisieze & I call it groil,, been workin nice, too., |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Routy on 10/02/11 at 05:36:03 I never played w/ synthetic much, but I been a Dino.....not mixer as much as a "brand changer" all my life, still am. Whatever name brand is on sale......or cheapest is what the vehicles get. Seems that Dello LE has won out the last couple years,...Havoline before that, w/ Rotella inbetween a time or two. I've run SuperTech when all others were overpriced. And thru it all, in 55 yrs, I never could "wear out" an engine. The motorcycle started w/ Havoline Syn, but w/ the wet clutch stories here, it perdy much stays w/ Rotella now. When it come to adding a quart tween changes......if that ever happens, it never did matter what name was on a can/bottle. Back in my young days.....60s, motors even got some tranny fluid now and then :o |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Gyrobob on 10/03/11 at 08:06:30 Seems like dumping solvents like Berryman's, Rislone, MMO, Seafoam, Gunk, etc., is a type of oil mixing as well. You have no idea what you are doing to the properties of the oil. The weight will change. The additives will be destroyed or at least change or combine. While in a desperate situation I'd use whatever was reasonably close to the correct motor oil, I much prefer to not mix different brands or types or weights of oil,... and I REALLY would avoid putting a solvent in there. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by dasch on 10/07/11 at 09:12:44 I mix here and there. Kinda hate myself for doing it - but I still do it. No oil related problems ever. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Gyrobob on 10/07/11 at 13:03:40 626775656E060 wrote:
Yet |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by bill67 on 10/07/11 at 13:40:39 Mixing oil doesn't hurt,If you use 1/2 $12 oil and 1/2 $2 oil you will have in there $6 oil.But the $12 oil will overpower the cheap oil some what. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by drums1 on 10/07/11 at 15:04:54 In my old cars, I'll dump in whatever is available when I need some. Or whatever is cheapest. Never blew an engine in 34 years of driving. On the bike, I stick to 1 weight oil. 10/w/40, like the manual says. I suppose, in a pinch, I would put in whatever, just to get home if needed, but I'd change that out when home. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Routy on 10/08/11 at 08:25:25 Quote: But the $12 oil will overpower the cheap oil some what. --------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, so then what,.......add more $2 oil to fight off the $12 invader ?? Are you sure it won't get too full doing all this ? :o |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Serowbot on 10/08/11 at 09:37:13 You'd think $12 dollar oil and $2 dollar oil, would make $6 dollar oil,... but,... it makes $14 dollar oil,.. because you're using it as an additive... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Gyrobob on 10/08/11 at 12:34:39 6D66636339380F0 wrote:
1/2 $12 oil and 1/2 $2 oil makes $7 oil, not $6,... unless it mixes badly, then you have $1,200 oil (or whatever it takes to rebuild/replace an engine) |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Serowbot on 10/08/11 at 13:09:13 'Cept fer',... there's no such thing as $7 dollar oil... oil's always an even number price... ... unless it's on sale... then, god only knows what happens when you mix them... All bets are off... :-?... ;D ;D ;D... |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Gyrobob on 10/08/11 at 17:30:01 Oh my!!,... I never thought of that. I can't imagine what would happen if you mixed "on-sale" oil with "full-retail" oil! :o :o :o |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by drums1 on 10/08/11 at 20:54:30 I put some used oil in my old Olds once--it looked fairly clean as I drained it from a customers car--it burned just the same as top shelf new stuff. ;D |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Routy on 10/09/11 at 05:00:35 Not to change the subject......or is it hijack the thread, but I notice Rotella T has been the oil of the month around here, @ 11.99,....but try to find some,......shelves are MT at all the "Mart Stores" I think many/most are like me,....buy whats on sale,.....and plenty of it. And (back on track) do you really think that any major brand oil co is going to produce/sell any blend of oil that would not thoroughly mix w/ any other brand w/o causing any problem whatsoever ? How long do you think that co would last if they did ? ::) |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/11 at 05:37:41 When I started stocking up on oil, Rotella T was $9.00/ gallon. I bought 15.. I still have a few of those & have had to restock with the 11 & 12 dollar stuff.. But T is what I run in the back hoe, pickup, lawnmower, & Savage..so I use a fair bit |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Gyrobob on 10/09/11 at 06:52:40 A fellow student back in the 1960's had setup that filtered used oil. He made up a box that would squeeze a standard roll of toilet paper flat. Oil went in one side and out the other. It was all gravity fed, so the "processing" went very slowly (days per quart). He would heat up the oil in a pot first to boil off any acids/moisture/liquid impurities, according to him. After it cooled, he'd put it in a bottle that drained into the toilet paper container, that drained into empty glass bottles (they didn't use plastic bottles back then). His "reclaimed" oil did look clear and clean. We discussed things like additive packages not there anymore, other clear but undesirable liquid stuff that might still be in there, viscosity index change, etc., but we were all poverty stricken at the time. All that mattered to him was that he could save a few bucks a month (maybe) on oil. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by arteacher on 10/09/11 at 07:16:09 3F2026213C3B0A3A0A32202C67550 wrote:
Regular price for Rotella T6 up here is... $39.95 :o |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/11 at 08:53:53 3A313138343B3A2021550 wrote:
Regular price for Rotella T6 up here is... $39.95 :o[/quote] Im talkin Dino oil, T6 is the good stuff, innitt? |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by verslagen1 on 10/09/11 at 09:03:42 544B4D4A5750615161594B470C3E0 wrote:
Regular price for Rotella T6 up here is... $39.95 :o[/quote] Im talkin Dino oil, T6 is the good stuff, innitt?[/quote] Yes, t6 is about $23 down here, and the regular t is $12 now. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by dasch on 10/09/11 at 09:09:10 Man, who cares, as long as it's klotz... ;) |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by bill67 on 10/09/11 at 14:46:12 5B5E4C5C573F0 wrote:
+1 |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Gyrobob on 10/09/11 at 14:59:52 2B2E3C2C274F0 wrote:
tee hee |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by MERKURMAN on 10/12/11 at 05:10:29 I would see if you can find an ad or circular that has T on sale and try to take it to your local auto parts store. Most reputable auto parts stores will do price matching just to keep your business. They usually have a pretty good margin of mark up that they can work with. So they can give you a break on the price. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by MotoBuddha on 10/12/11 at 05:14:38 As far as the Savage goes, we're not dealing with a highly stressed, high performance machine here, so oil choice isn't that critical. Now, having enough oil is another matter. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Oldfeller on 10/12/11 at 17:02:05 How can you tell if you have enough oil? :) |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Gyrobob on 10/13/11 at 07:17:02 0A2921232029292037450 wrote:
Follow the oil-level-checking instructions in the manual. ;) ;) ;) ;) |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Gyrobob on 10/13/11 at 07:19:57 Autozone price in the ATL area for a gallon of Rotella is $26 and $17 for synth and dino. Walmart is a little less but often doesn't have the synth. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Oldfeller on 10/13/11 at 12:08:55 Yep, Rot Syn is right popular with a lot of folks and it does run out a fair portion of the time at my local Walmart as they never seem to have more than a case (4 gallons) at a time. What I do then is go on line to Walmart.com and place an order for 2 gallons of Rot Syn to be delivered to the store nearest to me -- the main net.warehouse generally has the stuff on hand and ships it immediately to the local store, where they give me a call to say its here. ============ Follow the oil-level-checking instructions in the manual. Now, I read my manual as per your suggestion and it says 2.5 quarts at oil change. So, I just measure out my Rot Syn and dump it in? =================== How does RYCA tell you to check your oil? After all, your shocks are different now, your wheel sizes are different now --- nothing that makes that oil pool "level" to any of the pre-existing methods remains the same any more on a RYCA modded bike. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by babyhog on 10/13/11 at 13:39:21 So, OF, your saying if your wheels are different sizes, or the bike is jacked up or down, the viewing window will be rotated... kinda like checking level if you were on an incline.... So I guess the engine needs to be positioned to the "original Savage flat-line" (??) But does the "amount" of oil follow the same path on the Ryca bikes? Was anything added or taken away? If not, then it should be the same volume, right? |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/13/11 at 17:24:30 Take an aquarium, put 4 inches of water in it. on the left end, draw a circle that has the top of the water in it,, now, lift the left end of the tank,, where does the water go? |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Oldfeller on 10/14/11 at 15:49:16 Babyhog, I dunno -- I have not got a Ryca bike to tell you. Our front was 21", our rear was 15" our shocks are about 9.5" tall. Ryca is different on all of the above items, so that window will show a different picture with the same amount of oil .... ..... or have a different amount of oil when showing the same picture, which is the same difference either way. Which is why I wuz asking. |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Serowbot on 10/14/11 at 16:15:23 I got 12.5" shocks w/stock front... 2 Quarts still puts it in the middle window with oil/filter change... I usually add a smidge more to run at the upper end of the window... I don't check on the kickstand because of shocks and hockey puck kickstand... Plus, I wouldn't want to run with my oil that high anyway... Might slow me down, churning through that extra oil... ;D... |
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Title: Re: Mixing oil? Post by Oldfeller on 10/14/11 at 18:02:00 Won't be any churning if you stay below the oil shelf, but the only way I know to verify that on a modded bike like a Ryca is to do a hot test. Curious if any of the Ryca boys have done so or can even tell us their correct oil level methodology (the official gospel according to Ryca) and what it yields on a hot test. Mebbe Ryca has gotten it right -- good lord knows Suzuki has a ongoing conflict between their test method and the amount of oil they say goes into the sump ... |
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