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Title: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 09/09/11 at 09:55:30 http://www.airgunsdaily.com/ Every little boy wanted him a better BB gun, every adult man wanted and bought him a better pellet rifle. Admit it, you all own one. This is a dangerous place because it puts one gun on sale a day, at prices over 50% off where you can buy them on the net. Sometimes refurbed, sometimes overstock new. I bought a BB machine gun that I wanted a while back for $55 and then I saw a Ruger Air Magnum scope combo for $79 jest a few days ago. A $200+ dollar 1,400 fps RUGER air magnum with Ruger laser marked all over it -- $79. A pellet rifle with a scope that can break the sound barrier with a normal lead pellet, or toss a 10.5 grain .177 super heavy pellet right below the sound barrier (much more accurate, that). RABBIT PENETRATION POWER ;) All for less than 1/3 the normal cost of the gun. Put it up on your Firefox link bar and visit it every day to see what else comes up that can float yer boat .... |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by verslagen1 on 09/09/11 at 10:04:08 61424A484B42424B5C2E0 wrote:
I could use that for a FN bird, keeps crappin' on my car. Not your normally bird crap either, never seen a bird w/hemmoroids before eat exlax. :o |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 09/09/11 at 11:14:59 Fed Ex is bringing mine today !!!! http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/zoomed_model.pl?model_id=2354 |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Boule’tard on 09/09/11 at 14:07:28 Good score Oldfeller, congratulations ;) 170413120D0006040F50610 wrote:
It is your moral obligation, nay your duty to put that bird out of its misery! I am going to lose man-points here, but the Benj 392 is more than adequate for pest control. I used to have a scoped RWS54, but then I realized I don't need to hit a rodent in the eyeball at 50 yards when my property isn't 50 yards anywhere. If that bird is a crow, that's another story.. sneaky bastards. |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 09/09/11 at 15:00:09 It's here -- looks brand new. Never been fired, did not have any soot from early shot dieseling in the barrel, so it was never fired. Never been lubed or oiled either -- still fairly dry from factory assembly. Put it the scope on it and think I see why this one was returned originally -- scope rail does not line up with the articulated barrel very well. This would stop a normal user as soon as the scope ran out of adjustment but true old style gun nuts have experience and resources far beyond those of normal mortals. Go to the gun chest of drawers and pull out my scope mount & rings shoe box and dig dig dig -- Aha! Knew I had a pair taken off an old rifle !! Millet, the windage adjustable/tunable rings par excellence. http://www.millettsights.com/images/products/prod_Angle-LocSteelRings.jpg Ok, got scope on gun is lubed and I am ready for the first shot. Go to cocke it -- un-huh, you ain't cockeing this gun with just one hand. 50-60 pounds of cockeing force means old men use two hands and the floor. Put in the extra heavy Crosman Premier 10.6 grain pellet, smooth the skirt and closed her up. Keeerack !! Puff of smoke says she dieseled off the factory grease in the piston area. Plus, she broke the sound barrier even with the heavy pellet. Dieseling is expected on a new gun, sometimes it takes a while for the excess lube to work its way out of the chamber. Shot it 10 times and gave it a break -- long muscle (right side) that runs from shoulder to lower back is twinging and that tells me its time to stop for tonight. :D I love this shite !!! |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by verslagen1 on 09/09/11 at 15:10:57 Thanks, when can you send it to me? ::) To arrange shipment details, go here .... http://www.airgunsdaily.com/ |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 09/09/11 at 15:15:02 I used to have one of the old open sight Crosman 8 pumps (same gun as your Benjamin 392) in .22 but my eyes require a scope to do anything much any more. Or a red dot, which is what I have on the Umarex Steel Storm BB machine gun. Put it in 6 round burst mode, drop the glowing dot on it and squeeze the trigger. Gun will walk up a bit, so your vertical hold over for longer shots is automatically accomplished for you. Put the dot on it again and spray it with six more -- BBs are cheap !! Still, 30 yard distances you are describing fit the Steel Storm more than the Ruger AirMag -- Ruger carries punch power and accuracy that ask for 50 yards or more to show it's stuff correctly. My back 40 extends out to 100 yards and I have shot a crow with my old break barrel at 80 yards (through and through -- crows aren't very solid). Rabbits need a bit more killing and squirrels sometimes take a whole lot of killing. Only .177 bore size one shot kills I ever got on a squirrel were with these little Crosman Destroyer "open and invert & tumble on impact" jobbies. They don't through and through, you find them under the skin on the far side .... http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21BuMcNbzEL._SL500_AA300_.jpg |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Boule’tard on 09/09/11 at 19:20:10 486B6361626B6B6275070 wrote:
Heh heh. Yep. I knew something was up when I bought a new 392 and somehow it just wasn't the same as when I was a kid. The difference being, the old eyeball will not focus well enough on the blade, front sight, and the thing to be shot at. Sure, you can farkle out a 392 with a scope and all, but what's the point. You could also put a scope on a slingshot, or Ohlins suspension on a Savage for that matter. I didn't want to make my pellet gun all fragile and worth more in modifications than its original price. So as a halfway measure, I put on a Williams peep sight. No fancy fluorescent stuff, just a ring with windage/elevation adjustments. Somehow, the mind puts the front sight right in the middle of that fuzzy ring, and accuracy is very good. I can nail a 1-inch diameter at about 15 yards with it and could easily demolish a rodent skull at that distance, killing it humanely if not instantly. Low budget, just-enough firepower there. Anyways, have a plinkin' great weekend! :D |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 09/12/11 at 08:31:15 Plinkin's done, dieseling's done (takes about 25 shots for the excess lube on the piston and chamber walls to vaporize and exit the barrel). Scope is sighted and is stable (on big springers this is an issue) and my most accurate pellet is a Crosman Premier 10.5 grain Heavy bought in a brown cardboard box with 1,250 match grade pellets of the same lot # in the foam pocket inside the box. Gots me a lifetime supply of the same lot # I do .... Shot #1 from a cold barrel and follow up shot #2 are on center and a half inch high to my shortest shooting range and spot on for my longest shooting range which means this sucker shoots purty durn flat compared to my past spring barrel air rifle. The first shot and the follow up shot are 1/2" away from each other at my max shooting range, second shot tending offset to the right. I am pretty sure it is me operating the break barrel as you have to side load it some when c ocking it (I can't say c ock or any variant of it on this site of course -- too narsty for the list software to tolerate) but this level of accuracy is plenty good enough for squirrels as even when shot good they run and keep running until they drop dead from blood loss. This is with a very heavy 10.5 grain .177 pellet -- gun goes hypersonic with all lighter pellets and pellets don't do hypersonic very accurately. I tried to group the Crosman Destroyers, but that was me jest kidding myself as a oddly shaped nosed light hypersonic pellet has everything stacked against it. Power and penetration are considerable -- breezes right on through a soft pine 2x4 thinwise but does not do that end wise which would have been too too scary for my taste. I'm happy. $79 bought me a very powerful, very accurate gun that gives me an old man's cardio work out every time I shoot it. I did my shoulder and back exercise for today, Dr. and I do them religiously several times a week now. I gotta be more mindful of where I point this thing when it is cocked. A lap siding style outer wall may not stop it 100% of the time and I know durn well two layers of sheetrock in an interior wall wouldn't even slow it down very much. "No Ralphy, you'll put your eye out ....." indeed, put your whole silly head out is more like it. ;D ;D It is noisy -- about like a CB cap in a .22 rifle when not dieseling. Oddly, it is smoother firing than my old springer and actually seems to jar less when fired. Gun and stock is a lot heavier which may explain this somewhat, plus I expect they understand the springer mechanism a lot better than they did when they built my original springer. Trigger is much improved to my old gun, much much improved. ================== OK, I got the grass to mow and some house repair stuff to do as my wife is getting ansy that I'm gonna go off for another week of bike riding -- she says yes in the weeks away period but gets apprehensive as the date approaches .... she can't say she's afraid I won't come back, so she rousts me about a bit just beforehand to make sure I know she doesn't like it very much. Then I get to promise to call her every time I stop for gas. |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by verslagen1 on 09/12/11 at 08:44:56 How do you feel about todays rifle? |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 09/12/11 at 09:21:57 State of the art in air rifles is amazing compared to only 5 years ago. My original springer ate through 3 scopes until they started building springer air rifle specific scopes about 6 years ago. Mine was "powerful" back then, but it is sorta pathetic now a days. My current Ruger is a lot better gun, although it cost less than half of what I paid for my original springer back in the day. State of the art air guns are over a thousand dollars and require a lot of expensive infrastructure to shoot them, but they raise the standards to amazing new heights every year. Here is the state of the art FX Monsoon automatic .22 precharged gun busting up a concrete flagstone. $1,500 buys you this sort of power & accuracy in a semi-auto 8 shot pull the trigger for the next shot type fully silenced gun. (BTW, this air gun has been thought to be used several times by gangsters in Amsterdam to head shoot the other side's street level dope peddlers so restrictions on this air rifle are coming soon in the country of origin). [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN6ZVZwhgEA[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZhoUCaLLGU[/media] And that is on the small side of things. The big side is Benjamin/Crosman with their computer controlled 9mm deer killing air rifle, once again at $1,500 a pop plus big infrastructure costs to play in that sort of gun. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgLjDdc6vMI[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSdHkXlu-lc[/media] Now, can my Ruger Air Magnum kill a hog or a deer if I wuz close enough to put one in it's ear or eyeball? This was filmed with a Gamo, not a Ruger air magnum, but my gun tests at the same speed levels using the same heavy pellets that were used on this fairly close up shot to a pig's brain. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUUCLc0ZHhQ&feature=related[/media] |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 09/23/11 at 16:19:07 Head Shot -- bushy tailed rat -- 25 yds -- thru & thru (of course it was T&T, his head ain't made of ferro-concrete) 1st blood fer the Ruger Air Magnum!!! |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by photojoe on 09/24/11 at 05:07:56 The title of this post should be "fun good website dangerous to game" 8-) |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 09/24/11 at 05:30:04 Or mebbe, "The only difference between men and boys is the size and expense of their favorite toys ...." The rat was peering at me upside down from the lower side of a thick limb with only his ears, muzzle and his eyes showing. (classical "you can't possibly see me" bushy tailed rat tactics) 9 power scope could see him just fine ..... |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/24/11 at 05:40:54 My Benjamin model 247 pistol has well over 10,000 rounds thru it, Ive seen it be very accurate, Ive made some short range shots where I stacked pellet on pellet ( okay, not 100% perfect, but overlapped a bit), Ive had a great load of fun out of it, Had it a bit over 20 years, Didnt like the front sight, filed it down, put a groove in it, & soldered a roller out of a U joint in it,lm sure theres much better stuff out there, & this thing cost me almost 100 Waaay back then,, THose 1500 rifles are impressive,, |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 09/26/11 at 08:27:45 New rat, 35 yards, in one front shoulder, out the other -- I am not used to tough wiry tree rats dropping at the shot with a .177 but durned if the first two of them didn't do just that .... I have shot rats plumb through the head with my previous .177 air gun and had them hold on to the tree and still try to keep moving a short distance before falling off -- with my old pump Crosman .22 they always had to be shot several times in the body to do the job (never got head shots with it as it had no scope to it). Tree rats are incredibly tough critters, when I was young I shot one twice with that .22 Crosman and then chased him off the edge of a 40 foot road cut cliff and he hit the hard road surface already in gear and jest a getting it for the bushes on the other side. Took 2 more to get him to stop finally. We shall see, but so far the Ruger Air Magnum is a very economical one fer one on them bushy tailed shed and attic destroyers ... |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Boule’tard on 09/26/11 at 08:57:44 Just this weekend I looked up and saw a diseased limb on my main oak tree, a goddarn squirrel ripped open the bark and started what looks like oak wilt (very common in Austin, kills many trees) So I got up there and sawed off the limb and prune-painted it.. hopefully saved the tree. I need to thin out the lil rodents again, but it is kind of difficult when you have kids watching the squirrels and going AWWww look at the squirrels burying acorns for the winter! ::) >:( |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 09/26/11 at 14:10:48 Only one thing more fun that pruning tree rats is impact exploding fat waddling possums .... They reminds my bike of little bitty waddling baby Hurleys, so naturally it tracks right on over to get 'em. Whut's that buzz sound coming round the corner? Let's go look .... http://www.opossumsocietyus.org/opossumphotos/opossum4.jpg |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 09/30/11 at 12:14:37 Act Quick -- act now and join the ranks of Airgun Evil $89 for a state of the art gas ram .22 rifle that will toss a heavy pellet at 900 fps -- right straight slam on through a bunny wunny or cute squirrely purley making them immediately daid on the spot. http://www.airgunsdaily.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_844876&v=msAHsUK6a6g&src_vid=37kO5zmsM24 http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-130644496328183_2179_457264 |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 09/30/11 at 14:39:52 They have sold out the first shipment and are working on the second shipment now. I would expect you need to act today/tomorrow or this deal will be long gone. ;) |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Gyrobob on 09/30/11 at 15:36:44 4449534A4352475442260 wrote:
We had a squirrel problem in my neighborhood in Warner Robins. I had a cedarsiding house, so I had huge problems. My technique was a .22 air rifle with a real riflescope on it. It worked fairly well. A neighbor had a longer-term technique. He would poison the pine cones and acorns. It apparently worked to some degree, because I would occasionally find dead squirrels on my property. A neighbor in Alaska had a cat problem. He would put out bowls of antifreeze. Awwwwwww,.... |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/30/11 at 16:19:28 A neighbor in Alaska had a cat problem. He would put out bowls of antifreeze. Of Course! If he had put out water, it wulda froze!,, |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Gyrobob on 09/30/11 at 16:42:01 6C7375726F6859695961737F34060 wrote:
Precisely |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Boule’tard on 09/30/11 at 18:21:06 Oh jeez if I poisoned the squirrels around here, one of them would probably go limping in front of a neighbor who'd take it to the vet ::) Then the Bad Bad Man with Guns would get a visit from the SPCA. And my cat is too fat old and lazy to do anything.. squirrels get 5 feet away and shake their tail just to mess with him. That leaves one alternative.. clean, humane headshots. |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 09/30/11 at 19:40:49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_844876&v=msAHsUK6a6g&src_vid=37kO5zmsM24 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Boule, did'ja see the 1.5" diameter 5 inch deep conical wound channel those .22 Crosman Premier Hollowpoints put into ballistic putty? A squirrely purley ain't but about 4 inches deep crosswise .... A wise old airgunner once said that popping a squirrel with a .177 was akin to you getting popped with a .69" minnie ball from a musket. Popping a squirrel with a .22 was akin to you catching a round cannister shot from a field piece. What is amazing is that squirrels will run off carrying that kind of damage if shot placement is bad. |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by verslagen1 on 09/30/11 at 21:47:52 Around here ifa squirrel catches one of those, you don't have to worry about clean up... coyotes will be by soon enough. They might even tip their hat to you. |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Boule’tard on 10/01/11 at 17:41:17 5B7870727178787166140 wrote:
Yep that's pretty impressive. I haven't delved into hollowpoint pellets yet. I had a .22LR target rifle that did all right with target ammo but the hollowpoints would always "fly" on me. Must.. not.. buy.. Crosman Titan Nitro... :-/ |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 10/02/11 at 19:25:11 My Crosman .22 eight pump open sight pellet rifle cost me $32 back when I was of lawn mowing age. Run it forward into today's money that was a $230 air rifle back then and it was the very nicest pellet gun you could buy at the time, period. Now, let's take that $89 for the nitrogen ram equipped .22 Titan today and run it backwards into 1963 dollars .... $12.84 And Boule, the 950 fps (get an honest 800 fps w/heavy pellets) Titan .22 comes with a free scope .... Heck fire, scopes cost way more than $12.84 back in 1963 all by themselves. Heck fire, I can seeeeee I can seeeeeee again, and my cross-hairs are on you, you tree wrecking squirrely purley !! phutt !!! <splat> |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 10/04/11 at 18:01:44 Ok, Justin and Boule, the bad thing is all over for now .... ..... the turrible turrible temptation has ended ..... (sob !!!) the $89 gas ram .22 caliber 950 fps Titan has sold out completely. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Now you just have to put up with Verslagen and me talking about how neat ours are once they get here. And mine will be here on Thursday !!! |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by verslagen1 on 10/04/11 at 18:23:33 got mine today http://www.getsmileyface.com/sm/violent/sterb110.gif is sure is pretty |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 10/05/11 at 05:23:36 647760617E7375777C23120 wrote:
Well, having it in hand and holding it -- do you feel like the $89 Crosman Nitro was a worthy pick for the Oldfeller "grab it now" recommendation? |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by verslagen1 on 10/05/11 at 07:11:47 Not having a lot of experience with these things, it's hard to say. I feel I've gotten my money's worth... The proof is in the pudding so far it's a beautiful site, let's see how it tastes. |
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Title: Re: Evil Bad Website -- Dangerous to your wallet Post by Oldfeller on 10/05/11 at 15:26:23 You need some basic springer knowledge, easy stuff like do not lube with petroleum oil products, only use pure silicone oils (springers are like diesel engines, when they go thump they elevate the air temperature way up past the ignition/explosion point on any petrol oil). Next, NEVER dry fire the gun (never cocke the barrel) without putting a pellet in it -- if accidentally fired without a pellet in the bore the piston will not have any resistance and will dead end the piston seal into the front end of the chamber destroying the urethane seal instantly ... Next, hit your search engine with "lubricating pellets" "lubed pellets for magnum springers" "Pellet leading in magnum springers" and read up on the great leading debate. It's real -- I have already leaded my Ruger Air Magnum up twice and am now running only lubed pellets. Type Silicone Oil into Ebay and you will find lots of weights of silicone oils for RC truck shocks -- something around 30 weight is OK for your air gun and you can buy 2 ounces of RC shock oil for less than you pay for a quarter ounce of Crosman Silicone Chamber oil. I lube my pellets with 30 wt RC silicone oil and it does help with the leading issues. You don't think "heat" and "friction" about air guns, until you diesel one for the first time -- sounds jest like a .22 rifle going off. |
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