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Message started by EJID on 09/07/11 at 14:19:20

Title: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by EJID on 09/07/11 at 14:19:20

http://www.allaboutbikes.com/motorcyle-news/general-news/5818-first-polaris-made-indian-rolls-off-the-line

Good to hear, I always liked the look of the long-fendered Indian bikes. We'll see what comes of the Polaris influence in the 2013 bikes according to the article.

8-)

Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by JohnBoy on 09/07/11 at 15:24:28

Looks like a Harley with fender skirts!

I want to see Indian become what they used to be...the most advanced motorcycle company in the world.
People owned Indians because they were the best not because they looked like 1940 warmed over.
And bring the plant back to Springfield, MA!

Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/07/11 at 15:31:09

I love it.. & theres no way I would ride one,, too big for me,, but I really like that someone is stepping up & creating JOBS!!! May they sell thousands ,, & its a Good Lookin suckah,,

Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by Gyrobob on 09/07/11 at 19:04:00

I wonder if they will develop their own motor, rather than using what is basically an HD design.

Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by mmosel on 09/07/11 at 20:15:26

Too biiiig. We need an Indian thumper that's just a tad bigger and longer than the Savage. let's call it an Indian 800cc Thumper = weight = 375lbs.

Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by Midnightrider on 09/07/11 at 21:48:54

Since my early teens I've watched someone try to save and revive the Indian name. I'm 57. Will Polaris do it? I doubt it. Looks like the show must go on.

Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by JohnBoy on 09/07/11 at 22:24:17


4242405C4A432F0 wrote:
Too biiiig. We need an Indian thumper that's just a tad bigger and longer than the Savage. let's call it an Indian 800cc Thumper = weight = 375lbs.

I'm for that! A light weight thumper of about 800cc with fuel injection and hydraulic lifters...and a tank big enough to cross town.


Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by Arizuno on 09/07/11 at 22:44:38


6D484F4965485E270 wrote:
[quote author=4242405C4A432F0 link=1315430360/0#4 date=1315451726]Too biiiig. We need an Indian thumper that's just a tad bigger and longer than the Savage. let's call it an Indian 800cc Thumper = weight = 375lbs.

I'm for that! A light weight thumper of about 800cc with fuel injection and hydraulic lifters...and a tank big enough to cross town.
(Did I do this right?) I like the way you think, JohnBoy!
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Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by Drifter on 09/08/11 at 05:30:09

Same old clone engine that has been used 2 times and failed....they need a NEW engine! I thought polaris was smarter than this....

Old Indians are my favorite bike i have lots of indian stuff and some real indian tools, my father had a 38 4 cylinder. Untill they come up with an Indian engine i dont really care it this time is number 3.

I guess in all fairness being how Harley copied the first V twin from Indian its fair play. Indian built the first vtwin in 1906 HD was 1909, it did not run well so they pulled it, 1911 another one was sold to the public.

Always amazes me how the HD types never mention or care about facts kinda like that new political party today!!!

Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by bill67 on 09/08/11 at 05:55:18

If the price is less than $10,000 they with sell like hotcakes.But the price want be and they will want about $25,000 for them.

Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by LostArtist on 09/08/11 at 07:16:46

there's probably still a lot of parts and stuff left over from the other owners of Indian, so Polaris is just using up that and following up on that marketing scheme for awhile until they hopefully develop and design something with more mass appeal. I'd love to see them come out with an Indian Scout model as a standard or sport bike even. I think they can keep the chief the classic old school look for those that want that kinda thing, but agree that they need to update the image of Indian.  but it's been 50+ years since Indian meant anything else than old school restoration beauty, a capturing of nostalgia.  They should really just follow Triumphs example.

Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by mpescatori on 09/08/11 at 07:34:50


464644584E472B0 wrote:
Too biiiig. We need an Indian thumper that's just a tad bigger and longer than the Savage. let's call it an Indian 800cc Thumper = weight = 375lbs.


I agree 100%.

In fact, what Indian needs is the "100 per cent solution".

What is 100% ? It is "purity, completeness, entirety".

It is 100 x 100 = square single 785 cc.

It is the easiest engine to design and build, yet, with two possible head designs and a separate gearbox, you can have up to 4 credible versions from one engine project.

2 valve, 4 speed Main Street cruiser. (see LS650 / S40)
http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/suzuki-history/1986/1986_LS650_Savage_450.jpg


2 valve, 5 speed tourer. (see Royal Enfield Bullet)
http://www.indiweb.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Royal-Enfield-Bullet-Electra-5s.jpg


2 valve, 6 speed long-range GranTurismo (see a fully faired BMW or Moto Guzzi)
http://www.gawa-guzzi.de/oldies/v65sp.jpg
I know the pic is a V-twin, just try to picture a fully faired single...


4 valve, 6 speed cafe racer to whip the lightweight competition clean off the streets. (see Gilera Saturno or Royal Enfield Bulelt Clubman)
http://www.cmmilanese.it/it/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/56-gilera-saturno-bialbero.jpghttp://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00848/motoring-graphics-g_848082a.jpg


2 valve, 6 speed scrambler
http://digilander.libero.it/massimo254/MOTO/ducati_scramler.JPGhttp://www.moto.it/static/upl/bor/borile_ducati_scrambler--sfoglia-la-gallery.jpg


The pics below are Italian spinoff from the Royal Enfields, called the "McDeebs".

http://www.fedrotriple.it/agg_2010_01/2010-mcdeeb-scrambler-1-small.jpg
http://www.fedrotriple.it/agg_2010_01/2010-mcdeeb-thruxton-1-small.jpg
I want one !!!  8-)

Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by scroop on 09/08/11 at 17:59:22

Great looking machines, mpescatori!  Thanks for the post.   8-)  I welcome the Indian (as well as Victory) to the market place, but I prefer the little thumpers myself.  

Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by mmosel on 09/09/11 at 01:48:12

Yes nice post, thanks for all the great pics. Awesome stuff!

( I wish one of these American companies would get the hint though - maybe we can clue them in somehow lol )

Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/09/11 at 09:38:10

I spent some time on the McDeeb site,, coupla videos there, a few pics, Nice stuff..

Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by WD on 09/11/11 at 17:59:13

I've had 4 real (flathead) Indians. 2 Chiefs (1930s, pre fender skirt era) and 2 Scouts. Good bikes if you can remember that they are ancient.

The "bottle cap" Indian motor (cylinder head edge looks like a beer bottle cap) is a joke.

The S&S powered "Indians"were Harley Davidson Evolution knock-offs with goofy looking fenders. Trust me, the valances were wrong.

Closest thing to a production level Chief since 1953? Ever heard of the Kawasaki VN1500 Drifter? The exposed dual shocks look like crap, but the bike is otherwise flawless (even if it is fuel infested, liquid cooled and shaft driven). Want a Scout? Find a clean used VN800 Drifter. Chain driven with a hidden monoshock, and comfortable.

Want a "modern" Chief that looks like a fossilized one? Kiwi makes them from modern alloys, with a flathead, as a kit.

As ugly a the Victory line has become I dread seeing what they do with THE American motorcycle.

Title: Re: First Polaris Made Indian Rolls Off the Line
Post by Drifter on 09/12/11 at 08:04:38

I agree 100%!!

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