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Title: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by txsizzler on 09/07/11 at 11:14:01 Well folks, I have now made the switch. After having the bike stall out on me 4 different times (not in a row, just randomly) when doing around 70 mph, I decided to do the petcock "test" http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1315418285 and sure enough, I was a good candidate for the Raptor swapout. So, I went to bikebandit, ordered the Raptor 660 petcock and a Slipstreamer Spitfire S-06 windshield, and got them yesterday. Anyhow, I made a 3-part "HOW TO" video, showing step-by-step for all of us who are not very mechanically inclined (<-- me raising hand!), and for those of us who are "noobs", or just want a better explanation of the swapout! Here is the link to the technical document: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1315418285 Sorry if its a bit wordy at first! My first time doing a how to video, hehheh! Enjoy! Ian |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by Boofer on 09/08/11 at 07:39:46 Sizzler, I think you'll like the Raptor petcock. One thing I like about that type of petcock is how easy it turns compared to the Suzuki one. I check my oil before every ride, so even if left on there is not much chance of the float sticking and me not knowing it. I also have an S-06 windshield and it works well for me. I think mine was around $65, so anywhere in that range is a good deal. BTW, the new petcock has less reserve. I ran out and switched to reserve last week. After 10-12 miles It looked like I was close to empty, but didn't shine a light in the tank to see how much I had. It held 2.44 gals on the side stand up slightly into the filler neck. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by txsizzler on 09/08/11 at 15:30:55 Yeah, I took a good ride in the freeway today with the new petcock and windshield. The bike preformed great! No hesitation at all, and the windshield did a good job keeping about 90% of the wind off of me. I made a How-To video on the installation of the Spitfire windshield, which I will post in the tech section later. Ian |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by Routy on 09/09/11 at 07:04:33 quote: "test" http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1315418285 and sure enough, I was a good candidate for the Raptor swapout. ----------------------------------------------------------------- The link is not for the test as said. If indeed the test showed that the petcock was shot, you were getting fuel down the vacuum line and into the intake....into the cylinder....into the oil,.....or overflowing the carb, out the vent tubes,....into the aircleaner ??? How many of those if any ? Did you check your oil for gas in it.....or just change it ? Just curious. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by Boofer on 09/09/11 at 08:50:35 I am going to say this one last time. I had NO PROBLEMS with too much gas anywhere. I had problems with starvation at drag racing take offs and rolling on up to 70-80 on the four lane. It was an imtermittent problem solved by the new petcock, using the same gas line, etc. I'm going riding now. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by Oldfeller on 09/09/11 at 09:15:58 Routy is in full petcock war mode and he now he wants to "define petcock failure" as only a split diaphragm, which is the oldest time frame and the very rarest of the failure modes. Then he wants you to prove you had ALL the failure modes ... and nobody but Verslagen or Serobot has ever kept a stock vacsucker around long enough to get them all on the same unit. The rest of us jump ship long before then. He hates it when people say they simply got sick of dealing with the stock vac petcock due to the lesser issues, one of which is fuel starvation, running out of gas, false "empty" signals, etc. He wants to redefine the fuel starvation as "low vacuum issues" which is fine by me -- then he has to research and figure out a way to remedy "low vacuum issues" which will be fun to watch him go do. Wait until he asks everybody to put their Suzuki stock air filters back in place ...... :D Routy hates losing a petcock war, which is good because that makes him long lasting -- reminds me of eating a Brown Cow candy on a stick. A Brown Cow was a dark caramel bar on a paper stick that you couldn't bite through it, it was way too too tough and thick. You had to suck and lick it until it softened, then you could bite off a piece. This always wound up with your teeth stuck together when you bit into it -- movie time fun to no end. You can run him off screaming if you just simply cheerfully list all the ways the new Raptor petcock is easier to live with and simply works better. Just tell him how much better you like it, and why. Reminds me of sprinkling salt on a snorkle snail (slug) -- you get some similar reactions. ;D |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by HJH on 09/09/11 at 15:38:10 Seemed simple to me- the stock petcock has been a problem for some people, and it may cause a problem sometime, probably where I don't want it to happen. My bike is 9 years old, so sometime is probably near, and the fix is cheap, so I got rid of the possible problem. I don't really give a hoot about the debate whether the petcock is the source of all of the bike's carb problems or not, the Raptor petcock prevented at least one potential problem, and so far I have been smart enough to turn off the gas when I stop and park. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by ohio thumper on 09/10/11 at 09:35:12 for me the raptor was the way to go. i had starvation issues with stock petcock. didnt feel like rebuilding for future failure so i switched. no problems with scoot ever since. i remember to turn off when i get off bike, its turning it back on that gets me every now and again ::). i will hear a big bang after about a half a block and automatically reach down to turn it on. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by Oldfeller on 09/11/11 at 14:49:08 Oh, you boys are so so cruel to your little pet snorkles ..... (more salt, please) [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXhpD_seA88[/media] |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by CodyT on 05/09/16 at 17:19:00 trying to find a good guide for installing my raptor petcock.. i found a youtube guide with 3 parts to it. I just want to study more before i attempt it. Im more worried about sealing the carb part or w/e. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by CodyT on 05/09/16 at 17:21:23 i did not do a prime test or anything and just decided to get a raptor for my 95 sav. I did have oil in my airbox and the air filter was saturated with some oil, but smelled to me like gas (slightly) |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by Art Webb on 05/10/16 at 07:24:03 3 parts? Brother, it just screws on where the factory one was, no huhu use the screws / washers from the old petcock, clean the surface well, and slap it on, then plug the vacuum at the carb (I actually went and bought block - off caps) |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by Drestakil on 05/10/16 at 08:18:05 644949404354260 wrote:
The new petcock comes with plastic hose over the screen so you can adjust when you have to switch to reserve. The problem was it wouldn't fit in the hole on my '09. But, it did fit on the '89 so it has more reserve. Just have to switch to it sooner. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by Dave on 05/10/16 at 08:27:21 6355425453464C4E4B16270 wrote:
The new petcock comes with plastic hose over the screen so you can adjust when you have to switch to reserve. The problem was it wouldn't fit in the hole on my '09. But, it did fit on the '89 so it has more reserve. Just have to switch to it sooner.[/quote] Nope....that little clear plastic sleeve is there to protect the filter from damage while it is being shipped around the world. The sleeve is supposed to be removed before you install the petcock! |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by CodyT on 05/10/16 at 11:42:27 3 Parts... i mean the youtube guide has 3 video parts by the same dude showing how to change it. I was just worried about how to cap off? the vacuum part. Its not shown very well in video. Im very new to cycles and love to do my own work but am not very knowledgeable yet. Slowly learning. I would like to learn how to take out and clean my own carb sometime as well but thats for future project. I was wondering if while the petcock is off and before installing the 660 if theirs anyway to clean the carburetor while that hose is off. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by JPSavage on 05/12/16 at 05:44:08 Does anyone have an exact raptor petcock part # or model/year it belongs to? It seems like there is more than one available. Thanks |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/12/16 at 06:07:35 I did know which Raptor to buy the petcock for, but, it escapes me. However , having Asked for exact parts and gotten home, only to discover that I had purchased only an approximate replacement, I Carry the part I am replacing in the store and compare. The money saved by buying online isn't that much, and the down time is really different and you get to support the local economy. And you Know you're not getting a knock off in a box that has Yamaha on it. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by Dave on 05/12/16 at 09:08:32 2A3033535557600 wrote:
It's in here: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1366651397 If you don't see the Yamaha part number 5LP-24500-01-00, or the white box with the Yamaha trademark....find someplace else to buy it. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by batman on 05/12/16 at 13:09:06 I decided to go with a raptor when I was on the Mass turnpike ,I was passing a truck and because the throttle was wide open(low vacuum)the diaphragm shut killing my motor, I tapped my brakes hoping the three cars behind wouldn't run me over and managed to cost in behind the truck and made it to the side of the road .After cleaning my shorts,I fired the bike on prime drove home and ordered me a RAPTOR |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by verslagen1 on 05/12/16 at 13:59:20 With the stock petcock I got pretty good at switching to prime. Just a few rev's and back to blast. Now that I got a raptorcock, it's a forgotten art. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by old.indian on 05/12/16 at 15:15:06 292A3F262A257F734B0 wrote:
Having ridden a motorcycle on the Mass pike, I WOULD NEVER DO IT AGAIN !!!! In fact, I wouldn't get on the bleedin' thing again in anything smaller than an Abrams. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by swedishbiker on 05/12/16 at 21:16:30 Hehe, still the same problem over there. You should do something about your lousy gas. I am still riding with 1993 petcock, and every spring it fires up on the old gas from last year. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by verslagen1 on 05/12/16 at 21:59:16 wow, you're gas really keep for 9 months? if I don't ride daily it gets sluggish. :-? |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by swedishbiker on 05/13/16 at 06:31:55 Yes 9 month no problem, in my MotorHispania the gas is many years old. Never had any problem here in Sweden with gas that are several years. My Volvo 142 may have gas that is 5-6 years old, still start fine every time I had to move it. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by bobert_FSO on 05/13/16 at 06:32:13 "With the stock petcock I got pretty good at switching to prime. Just a few rev's and back to blast. Now that I got a raptorcock, it's a forgotten art. " That was me. I knew what the problem was, so no need to come to a complete stop. Switch over while still rolling. The Savage was 10 yrs old and the pet diaphragm had gotten stiff and required a lot of vacuum to open. The last straw was trying to keep up with friends at 65 mph and a 20 mph headwind. I finally got tired of it and finally just left it on prime for the whole trip. I was a little worried about having no reserve, but luckily, another rider had to make more frequent gas stops then I required. i ordered a Raptor the next day. I also had trouble with the petcock not operating correctly on days below about 45 degrees. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by batman on 05/13/16 at 06:55:04 verslagen , I was returning from RI. after giving my son a truck to drive,he was there 3 monyhs at school (navy) . It was in march, temp was 29 degrees I had snowmobile mittens on and that didn't work to well for trying to turn the petcock which was always pretty stiff to begin with. |
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Title: Re: New Raptor 660 petcock believer!! Post by JPSavage on 05/14/16 at 06:41:32 Thanks everyone for the words of wisdom. Hopefully have her spinning like a top soon. |
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