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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1315252488 Message started by Zeke342 on 09/05/11 at 12:54:48 |
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Title: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by Zeke342 on 09/05/11 at 12:54:48 I know their are multiple posts on the forum about chain conversions and I have read through a majority of them and was looking for very specific answers and didnt find any at all that specifically say they're for the LS650.. most said S40.. So what I'm wondering is exactly what I need to do a chain conversion on a LS650.. front and rear sprocket of course and a chain.. but I know next to nothing about sizes I need or anything that would fit without modifying the bike >.< My belt is pretty much trashed so I gotta get this done lol |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by Oldfeller on 09/05/11 at 13:04:19 It's all the same stuff, same parts fit all the Savage types. |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by MotoBuddha on 09/05/11 at 13:38:18 Anything made for an old GS550L will work. The L is important for the rear sprocket. |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by LarryC on 09/05/11 at 14:20:40 When you get 'r done, please post the costs and pics if possible. I was wondering how many miles to expect out of the belt.....With better performance w/the chain, as has been stated, at a lower cost....Should that be the way to go..... When swerving, keep the upper body upright, independent of the motorcycle lean-MSF 8-) |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by Routy on 09/05/11 at 14:40:53 There is no miliage spec for the belt. The belt will last near forever as far as miliage is concerned. Rocks and other debri going thru the belt is another story,......that will take its toll, especially if the debris stays in the sprocket or belt. Except for wanting a different final ratio than what the OEM belt assy has, there is no better,...no more efficient,....no less expensive way to go as far as a final drive, than the OEM belt drive. :o |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by Zeke342 on 09/05/11 at 15:06:58 If anyone can point me to some links of what I need that'd be great.. I'm having trouble finding any front or rear sprockets for a GS550 >.< I read on the forums most users went with a 45/17 I found this link and want to confirm with someone that this is what I'm looking for before I order the parts.. do I need the '82 GS550L (the section third from the top) http://newmotorcycleparts.com/drive_parts/sprockets/sprockets_suz.html and a 120 link chain will work for a 45/17 correct? |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by MotoBuddha on 09/05/11 at 15:13:48 Try one of these: http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=suzuki+gs550l+sprocket&_sacat=10063&_dmpt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&_odkw=&_osacat=10063&bkBtn=&_trksid=p4506.m270.l1313 |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by Zeke342 on 09/05/11 at 15:27:21 2E0C170C211607070B02630 wrote:
wow... I feel dumb. I use eBay for almost everything lol. So a 17 front and 45 rear should a 120 link chain work? |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by MotoBuddha on 09/05/11 at 17:11:20 I got a 120 just to make sure, and cut off the unneeded links. |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by Oldfeller on 09/05/11 at 17:59:08 Since you are pretty much trashed, if you are throwing away the old sprockets and the belt I would like to have them. (are you sure you are really trashed? Want to post a pic and get some informed opinions?) Trouble is, folks judge our belt like it was a rubber Harley belt -- and it is NOT, it is a hard plastic industrial drive belt that is practically immortal. You say "trashed" -- what does that mean exactly? |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by Zeke342 on 09/05/11 at 21:51:43 64474F4D4E47474E592B0 wrote:
This bike sat out completely unmaintained for 7+ years behind a trailer and then we bought it and it sat for the past 2-3 years and I've finally started working on it.. most of it is rusted and it had the original belt.. I am replacing it as a matter of safety and not wanting to take the risk of it breaking since it had small cracks on it almost all around.. I've already thrown it out several weeks ago unfortunately :( but I've read that a lot of people prefer the chain conversion and im used to bikes with chains and never ridden one without. |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by Oldfeller on 09/06/11 at 00:38:20 Well, the belt is gone -- how about the sprockets? Do you still have them? |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by Zeke342 on 09/06/11 at 21:37:52 67444C4E4D44444D5A280 wrote:
Yes I have both front and back :) both aren't in totally terrible condition. |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by Oldfeller on 09/06/11 at 22:35:33 Now, in fairness let me tell you a little fairy tale -- The Ugly Belt that Wouldn't Die. There once was a magical belt in the land where Savages dwelt, it was an ugly dark plastic belt, made of molten dragon turds that were melted and cast around a thick flat section of kevlar type tire cords, the strong bullet-proof stuff that aircraft and racing tires are made from. The dragon belt was ugly and mean and the plastic dragon turds were so tough the clever dwarves who designed the belt had to put little ribs on the top to control the dragon turd cracking that must take place to allow the inflexible turd material to bend endlessly around the small pulley. The indestuctable cord that was looped endlessly around and around through the very center of the flat part of the belt held everything together, much like a string of beads that your girlfriend wears around her neck. The beads are separate, but the string holds it all together. This magical dragon belt was so strong it could bend coins to conform to the tooth form of the belt, or allow sharp rocks to push all the way through the belt and the belt still survived and worked fine for 10,000's of more miles of hard use. The dragon turd teeth on the magical belt were so long lasting the aluminum pulleys would wear out before the belt did. Indeed, the center splined hub of the smaller pulley was well know for dying before the belt even got worn in well. Few realized the worth of the magical belt, because there were many other belts out in the Savage kingdom made by Hurley, who was a real poophead when it came to belts. Hurley made them out of rubber instead of magical dragon turds, so they did not last very long and when a Hurley belt cracked people ran in haste to throw down $150 or more for a new belt before the skinny thin rubber Hurley belt disintergrated on them. As we said, the magical dragon turd belts were practically immortal -- only 3 had ever died in the history of the list and those were murdered by munching rocks and such like which damaged the internal cords (but these injured magical belts did not give up easily and were known to keep on working when severed 50% in two to give the owner time to get another one used as the new ones cost $298 each). It was considered very lucky to have an immortal dragon turd belt, because the dragon magic made your bike lucky and by inference you became lucky too. Dragon belts were certainly very ugly and they looked cracked so some silly owners would throw them away and go buy chains that required lubing and constant fiddling and adjusting and they wore out in only 10-20,000 miles. (the chain's total life span was the same distance a dragon belt could go after pushing a rock completely through it). Smart owners just replaced the small pulley when the splining wore out in the middle and kept on using their ugly magical dragon belts and they rode on happily ever after. They were, after all, the lucky ones. |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by Routy on 09/07/11 at 05:24:48 Seems the midset is that our belt drive can't be the best...longest lasting,.....most effecient thing that ever happened to a motorcycle, so they are going to change to chain drive, no matter how long the belt last, or anything else good about the belt drive. Unless of course they are wanting to change the final ratio, and if so, we sure wouldn't know it by what they post :o |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by MotoBuddha on 09/07/11 at 12:40:57 Besides being able to change ratios, some of us just think belts look dumb. ;) |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by Oldfeller on 09/07/11 at 14:20:44 I had a SV650 for a year, my concrete still had the line of lube drips where I used to park it in the garage. I have a chain mod, just never got motivated to put it on now that I got the other half of the Savage RPM range uncorked ..... the stock belt doesn't look so ugly to me any more. I will eventually need a front pulley, any of you RYCA boys got a spare front pulley with a good spline to it? :D Yeeehhaaaaa !!! Go Go immortal dragon turd magic !!!! |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by Finney138 on 09/07/11 at 19:18:11 i switched over to the chain, it was hard to find the sprockets in canaduh because all the dealerships thought i was out of my mind when i said why i wanted them so i found this ( http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1174239333/9#9 ) went on amazon and typed in the sprocket numbers (JTR816.45) for your back sprocket and (JTR513.17) for your front the numbers after the period is the number of teeth on your sprocket, i got a 13 and a 17 for the front and after riding both i would prefer the 13 overall ,but i would prefer the belt over the 17/45. |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by Gyrobob on 09/08/11 at 05:52:32 64465D466B5C4D4D4148290 wrote:
I have seen a few motorcycle sculptures (choppers ala Teutels from OCC), that had no belt, chain, shaft,... nothing! At first glance it appeared there was no way to power the rear wheel. The system being used was a friction drive. One or more powered rollers were rubbing on the front of the rear tire. The rollers were artfully hidden by framework/fenders/etc. Fascinating engineering exercise, but I wonder how well it worked? How well can you move 60hp or more from a 2" diameter roller rubbing on a rear tire? |
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Title: Re: 1997 LS650 Chain Conversion? Post by MotoBuddha on 09/08/11 at 11:32:38 I've also seen some hydraulic drive bikes. |
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