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Message started by jspace on 09/01/11 at 19:05:41

Title: oil level
Post by jspace on 09/01/11 at 19:05:41

changed the oil and filter today. i filled the oil up to the top of the sight glass (when standing straight up).. it just barely peeks through the sight glass when on the kick stand. Thats how it was before (when i bought it). but i noticed clymers says to fill it up to the min max in the sight window.

I know how OIL subjects in this forum can be like starting world war 3.. i just want to know if this is ok or should i siphon off a few a little bit.

Title: Re: oil level
Post by prechermike on 09/01/11 at 19:11:17

You will be fine like that. there are a couple of threads about checking the oil on the side stand, just having it peek over the bottom. The offical Suzuki way is to stand the bike vertical and fill it to between the lines.

Look out, there may be another war, with stuff flying around. ;)

Title: Re: oil level
Post by Boofer on 09/01/11 at 19:34:03

I would just add that I let it idle and fill up the oil filter, which is not much, and get in the top end. I turn it off and let it sit for a few minutes and check it. You can even stand it up straight and get another spoon full in the glass. Then you know it is ok in a hard running situation. :)

Title: Re: oil level
Post by Oldfeller on 09/01/11 at 20:29:04

Should "innocent sounding newbies" who gleefully post that they are not intentionally starting WWIII whilst lighting off their initial Molotov question -- should they be made to do a HOT TEST to see if they are qualified to play with fire?

::) Duh, whut's a HOT TEST ??? Do different oils give different HOT TEST results if used in the same bike? Is my side stand different from yours? Can I find HOT TEST by using Search? Why is the ground under my left foot smoking and ticking? What can I do about all these bugs going "wheet" past my ears? What is flameproof Kelvar and why is it my best friend?
Which durn side am I on, anyway? When do I get issued a gun so I can shoot back, please ....

All teasing aside, just run it -- the oil level will go down shortly ....

Title: Re: oil level
Post by Routy on 09/01/11 at 22:54:54

SS method,......I push it more all the time. I was running on the low line for a long while, but the other day it was just peeking, so it must have used a little. So, while I had to add a little anyway, I filled to midway the 2 lines. There, see how Suzy likes that !
48 miles later, up and back down 4,000 ft elev, no smokie, no smell oil, no see oil, no drippy oil, all is well. Well, somebody had to do it !

Me, ??? I really think that the idea to check oil vertically was a mistake right from the get go. I think there is a lot a bikes out there running around low on oil :o

Title: Re: oil level
Post by drums1 on 09/02/11 at 06:01:20

I stand tall and firm in my belief that 2 1/2 Qts. is the right amount of oil, with a filter change. No smoke, no "where did my oil go", no foaming, very little, if any, blowby. Oil peaks in window when on SS, near top when vertical. During hot test, when vertical, oil is near top of window, flowing, with no foaming, no bubbles.
The problems I DO have were created by other things. IE; idiot techs putting oil pump gear in bassackwards, idiot techs putting oil filter in bassackwards, idiot techs snapping head bolts, idiot owner running over large rocks in the road, etc., etc..

Title: Re: oil level
Post by Oldfeller on 09/02/11 at 18:13:57

I done tolt you about them there Stealership Jr. proctologists they let work on yer bike.

"Hey, we got another one of them old Savage 250cc single cylinder Suzuki slo-peds over here with some sorta oil leak". "Yeah, put that work order in little Joey's stack, he'll be in this weekend now that high school is back in session -- he does all our singles and dirt bikes all summer long ..."

"Joey's here man, he's out riding a customer's bike up and down the concrete stairs to the loading dock, he's bouncing it up on the rear wheel playing at being Mr. Super Trials again."

"Man, is that dumb punk stoned again or what?"

"Joey, that thing is a cruiser ya stupid asswipe -- not a trials bike !!! You are bending up the license plate and chipping the paint doing that trials shite up and down them stairs"

Title: Re: oil level
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/02/11 at 18:19:57

You know when youre in a young proctologists office..
theres always a stolen street sign

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Title: Re: oil level
Post by Oldfeller on 09/02/11 at 18:38:25

Mine has a picture of his grandaddy running a hissing steam drill down in an early coal mine, got a box of dynamite down at his feet next to his shutter lamp ....

Doc swears he still has the old roto-rooter drill in his back closet -- he'll take it out and use it on ya if ya give him any gruff.

:o BUPP!!! BUPP!! Bhuurrrr !!! (steam clouds obscure the examining room as the shreiks start)

Title: Re: oil level
Post by Oldfeller on 09/02/11 at 18:39:54

:-?

This really isn't very much of an oil war or a window war you know -- only one side showed up fer the argument.

Title: Re: oil level
Post by Boule’tard on 09/02/11 at 19:02:08

I dunno about you guys, but for the ultimate motorcycling experience I'm gonna stick a super magnet on my Raptor petcock and run some SEA FOAM through it, by gar.. will report the results as soon as I get my fingers oiled up with some Rotella and boot up a Windows computer.. :D

sorry... drunk :-?

Title: Re: oil level
Post by Oldfeller on 09/02/11 at 19:17:40

Don't ever type on a Windows machine with oily fingers --
you'll crash that wobbly sucker sure as the world !!!

:D

My Window XP partition on the old PC died, got et by a narsty root/boot eating something or 'nother.

Changed my boot order to put my Linux Mint partition up as my first boot device -- problem all solved.

Sad thing is I could fix my Windows, but to do that it would mess up my Linux and the Linux stuff is still working fine and I am loathe to mess with something that works good.

Title: Re: oil level
Post by verslagen1 on 09/02/11 at 19:23:53

2D3437262422470 wrote:

Just open up the timing port while on the kick stand and it'll come down to the right level.

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Title: Re: oil level
Post by Oldfeller on 09/02/11 at 19:36:37

Yeah, go do what Verslagen said .... then post back and tell us what happened .....

8-)

Title: Re: oil level
Post by verslagen1 on 09/03/11 at 10:41:19

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Title: Re: oil level
Post by Routy on 09/03/11 at 15:14:40

6340484A494040495E2C0 wrote:

:-?

This really isn't very much of an oil war or a window war you know -- only one side showed up fer the argument.

Yeah, but I ain't figured out which side !

Title: Re: oil level
Post by Oldfeller on 09/03/11 at 15:41:54

:P Routy, I dunno -- Boule and I got spanked fer going off topic and I got distracted .....

(really it was a pro Intel/Bill Gates faction acting out on their Mac frustrations)

Title: Re: oil level
Post by jspace on 09/03/11 at 19:19:01

well i went out for a long ride today.. no problems.. i really do have to agree with you all that the clymers manual is wrong with how much oil to put in..

Title: Re: oil level
Post by Routy on 09/03/11 at 21:40:09

51484B5A585E3B0 wrote:

well i went out for a long ride today.. no problems.. i really do have to agree with you all that the clymers manual is wrong with how much oil to put in..

So where is your oil level now when cold on the SS ?
Mine is now midway the lines w/ wheel turned hard right, and I have no problems of any kind..