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Message started by verslagen1 on 08/24/11 at 14:41:16

Title: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 08/24/11 at 14:41:16

garaged in '88 not rode or registered since.
owner dragged a peg and dumped it.
case damage to side I could see, otherwise good condition.

get it or not?

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/24/11 at 14:43:09

How much? Can you look at the wires & see if a mouse has eaten it all up?

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 08/24/11 at 14:51:10

a pitance. definitely could part it out and make it back easy.
1st look was at a distance.
are there any hard to replace parts?
sounds like it has points, I know theres kits for twins.

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/24/11 at 15:04:04

BUt the 500 is a 4 cylinder, innitt? You may have quite a little hotrod on your hands,

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 08/24/11 at 15:33:04

yes sir

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Boule’tard on 08/24/11 at 15:42:40

Sure, get it and do a build thread! :D

..says we in the peanut gallery with nothing to lose, yet are curious about this adventure/story.

But like you say, if it proves too troublesome if it can be parted out at a profit.. so the worst that can happen is you have to extract and sell the parts. So get bike first, evaluate later. ;)

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by bill67 on 08/24/11 at 15:54:21

I think they made twin CB500 too.

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by lukeduck on 08/24/11 at 17:25:06

Go for it-----

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Smokestack on 08/24/11 at 17:42:55

I'd buy it. Those CB's are pretty forgiving, and kinda bulletproof from what I've heard (never owned one).

If you do buy it, they make pretty sweet cafe racers, but if it was me I'd Kong the frame withing an inch of it's life.....

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Rogue_Cheddar on 08/24/11 at 18:02:38

Absolutely! Restos are hot these days. Everything old is new again. Old CB's cleaned up really draw a crowd at Bike Night up here in Lowell Mass.

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by MMRanch on 08/24/11 at 20:54:53

Versey

I had a Honda 500 four (73 mod.). Yea it has points but they are easy and reliable. It was bike of the year when it first came out. Best I remember it got about 53 mpg. and had plenty of power (+- 45 HP). And Smoth as any bike I've ever rode.

Kinda wish I would have kept it. It wasn't agile , it was supper smoth.

I traided it for a Honda 250 Reb. Liked the Reb. till I went up hill.

:P

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by stinger on 08/25/11 at 01:15:01

the parts alone are worth a fortune on ebay.

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by babyhog on 08/25/11 at 12:13:32

Go for it! :)

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Boofer on 08/25/11 at 14:16:12

At the risk of losing you to the other side, BUY IT! if you have the time and money. I bet it will run a little with new gas and a battery. I bought an XL75 kid's bike for 150 last week Spark but no gas? Really? It's 98 here so I'm waiting for winter. You meet the nicest people on a Honda. (Or a Savage) You have the skill. They are dead simple. I am old enough to remember The first 750. Do it. ;)

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Drifter on 08/25/11 at 16:14:13

Honda changes things almost every year a bike is produced for no good reason so any parts will probably have to be that year only. Unlike Suzuki and Kawasaki who tend to build the same things for decades....i learned this about hondas from experience....i would never own another Honda!!!

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/25/11 at 16:34:05

So? You gettin it or not?

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by kimchris1 on 08/25/11 at 18:48:28

Hey Vers, your keeping us all in suspense..
Go for it.. Oh and don't forget to share
the pics..:) kim

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 08/25/11 at 20:04:26

I'll tell you tomorrow ;D

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Gyrobob on 08/26/11 at 12:34:28

That bike makes a fantastic foundation for a cafe racer.

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/26/11 at 15:04:51

It tomorrow,,

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 08/26/11 at 15:06:33

Yes, I'll let you know tomorrow.

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/26/11 at 15:09:31

jakass.. that aint right & you know it,,

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Oldfeller on 08/26/11 at 18:48:12

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 08/26/11 at 19:44:31

Well it ain't 24 hrs later yet, and it ain't in my garage... yet.

But I got the rear wheel. ;D

A beer drinking buddy said to him 20 someodd years ago that he could change the rear tire for him. Must've ran out of beer and I guess he couldn't milk it for another day.

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Boule’tard on 08/26/11 at 21:38:36

http://www.bankrollmob.com/gfx/smileys/threadworthlesswithoutpics.gif

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 08/26/11 at 22:30:00

http://www.sohc4.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/CB500F.jpg

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Gyrobob on 08/27/11 at 07:25:42

What a handsome motorcycle!

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 08/27/11 at 07:50:10

it might look that again some day. 8-)

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Southpaw on 08/27/11 at 14:14:07

Oh, the suspense... ;D

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Oldfeller on 08/28/11 at 02:27:54

I got a bud at work that got bit by the 350-500-650-750 bug and he has bought and partially restored one of each.

Sold the 350 at a very good profit.

Sold the 500 at break even (too many parts needed for that one)

Sold the 750 at a profit before he even finished working on it.

Kept the 650 -- as Goldielocks said in the fairy tale -- "it was just right".

I was surprised at the amount of newly mgf'd aftermarket parts that are now available for the scoots -- you can buy old or new (expensive though).

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Boule’tard on 09/15/11 at 12:18:28

[two weeks later...]

*cough*

Uhh UhERrmm..

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by kimchris1 on 09/15/11 at 14:25:52

I think Vers is pulling our legs..
No pics and no posts lately of
this so called bike.. Come on
Vers, give us an update..
You still got us all in suspense. :) kim

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by WD on 09/16/11 at 16:23:29

The twins were gutless wonders, a CB350F could take them out on pretty much any surface. I had a CB500T and a CB350F at the same time.

The CB500F is worthwhile. And parts actually aren't that hard to come by.

My 1963 CL72 on the other hand...

Find me a really clean VT1100 ACE while you're out looking for supplemental toys. And the fully valanced fenders for it too...

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 09/25/11 at 19:46:17

;D
Hard to tell, but it's got a brand new rear tire on a clean and polished rim.
http://www.savageriders.com/verslagen/Honda/Honda-day1.jpg

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by MMRanch on 09/25/11 at 21:47:02

Versy

Thats a good looking machine !

looking at it makes me think "why did I every sell the one I had? "

supper smoth and long legged .

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Boule’tard on 09/26/11 at 07:10:28

Awesome!!! Mr. Understatement fooled us again. ;D

Now to replace that head gasket and see what's up with the mixture on the 2nd carb...

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 09/26/11 at 09:07:46

Now to cut 20 years of dust off.
f/a #2? if I can get 1 of the 4 to fire, I'll be counting my lucky stars.
#4 is already bound to miss :o
I'll have to OF the air filter, change the front tire, fix the speedo, headlight and signal which took the brunt of the disabling fall.
The PO gave me a spare set of brake pad and Ig plate. Although electronic ig is instore for it.

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by WD on 09/26/11 at 17:10:13

It's even the right color scheme...

MAC still has 4:1 or 4:2 headers for that engine...

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 09/27/11 at 23:39:49

I'm likin these...

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh135/tobetechUSA/IMG_1254.jpg
http://www.marving.com/faces/immagini/prodotti/4-1racingcromo.jpg

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by bill67 on 09/28/11 at 13:22:40

I was riding back when everyone had those 4-1 I thought the sound was the worst I ever heard.My 1980 GS 1000 had a different set up than all other 4s even the 750 Suzuki,the cross over was just in the 2 middle pipes,So what you had was the sound of 3 cylinders coming out of each pipe,Which gave it a slight off beat sound compare to all other 4 cylinders.I just drilled out the plugs in side the pipe with a long drill bit.I thought it really sound good for a four.

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Boule’tard on 10/01/11 at 17:57:56

Some guy is restoring a CB500 just like yours! linky link (http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=720997) :D

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/01/11 at 18:01:07

Seems like 4 to 1 would scavenge the best, Get that thing throwing the exhaust out right & it otta be quite a little hot rod.. Nothing like a Suzuki GS 1100,, but it otta be plenty of fun.

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 10/25/11 at 23:25:37

Had the bowls off tonight after soaking in seafoam for a day.
Well I was hoping just to fill it up with gas and see if it will kick over.
Opened up the drain to let the SF out and brown goo came out.
Nope this ain't gonna work. Bowls came off and a tar like substance stuck to the bottom. Oh what evil lurks in the bottom of 20 year static carbs. And SF wouldn't touch it, just made it gummy. It took acetone to cut it.

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Oldfeller on 10/26/11 at 15:08:06

Let me state something I learned the hard way ....

Only take one carburetor apart at a time

Swapped me some slide assemblies once --- like to drove me nuts before someone told me they were different (RH & LH) on a Honda Twin CB 160.

Can't speak to the 4 bangers, but thought I'd mention the thought.

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Boule’tard on 10/26/11 at 18:48:36

Might be a good excuse to buy that HF ultrasonic cleaner Gyrobob recommended.. and try the PineSol trick. :D

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Boofer on 10/27/11 at 18:24:25

Verslagen, Great bike. Electrics a little weak, but perfectly good for roadwork. If carbs and stuff weren't right, they could be hard to start cause 'lectrics were not good as today. It would be hard for me to change that good lookin stock ride, but it's your bike. With your knowledge of the Savage it should be no problem to get it going. Be patient. Enjoy the engineering. Glad you found it. Really great bikes. :)

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 10/27/11 at 18:29:43

a little?
they got a 30/40 watt headlight and if you time the tyts out of the ignition you don't have enough juice to charge the battery.

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by thumperclone on 10/27/11 at 18:58:10

dont forget nthe raptor and slagy tensioner
and
speedp rattle
and
conversion to belt drive
and
magnetic drain plug
and
custom air cleaner
and
wide rear tyer
and
ryca carp kit
and
and and... :D

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by Boofer on 10/30/11 at 19:04:07

706374756A6761636837060 wrote:

a little?
they got a 30/40 watt headlight and if you time the tyts out of the ignition you don't have enough juice to charge the battery.

I didn't want to talk bad about a great find for you. Okay, so they are a little weaker than I indicated, but don't grab a wire just to see. And you can sell it to a dealer for a conservation piece. Man, it's stock looking! If you don't have time to work on it, check with concours collectors or even the guys at Cycle World. Their editors are older guys who rode those things like my friends did. Seriously, they like those old bikes, and yours is one they can sneak past the wife 'cause it looks so good. :)

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 10/30/11 at 21:16:12

I suppose we're all alike, we talk to death about the little problems we have. And beotch about the 'great engineering'. Hell when you're on 2 wheels... it's all good. 8-)

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 10/31/11 at 10:05:03

I got the small ultrasonic cleaner.
since acetone was the only thing to cut the tar, I may fill it up with that.
And yes, they recommend doing 1 carb at a time.
mixing known good assemblies together may result in non functioning ones.
They are only slightly different, left side have drain plugs on the left side and vice versa.
Probably only going to take them apart enough to change all the seals and clean the ports and passages.

The headlight shell was busted so I took that off. What a mess of wiring inside. But all the wiring has the same coloring on both sides of the connectors. So it was pretty simple getting it back together. lights work, signals work, gages light up, starter works.

1st mod already done, a savage battery fits. 8-)

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by kimchris1 on 10/31/11 at 12:35:50

Vers, sounds like your coming right along
on this.. How long before you think it will
be on the road? Of course we want pics
of that too.. :) kim

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 10/31/11 at 14:30:44

Why would I take a pic of the road?
black, white dotted line down the middle.
seen one, seen 'em all ;) ;) ;D

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by verslagen1 on 12/16/11 at 23:21:15

Finished rebuilding the carbs, got'm back on and started it. 8-)

Now I can put it back together and see if it can roll too.

Title: Re: CB500 garage find
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/16/11 at 23:23:37

WooHOO,,