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Message started by Boule’tard on 08/11/11 at 11:15:53

Title: Leukemia cure?
Post by Boule’tard on 08/11/11 at 11:15:53

I know these sort of pipe-dreams (that never amount to anything) come around all the time. This is nevertheless interesting, and maybe it can be adapted to cure other types of cancer.

Seems they modified a strain of HIV of all things, to go after cancer cells instead of destroying the immune system. Maybe something will come out of it, who knows.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44090512/

Title: Re: Leukemia cure?
Post by babyhog on 08/11/11 at 11:23:12

Saw a story about that on the tube as I was getting ready for work this morning. I also thought how ironic it would be if HIV turns out to have a part in the cure. Didn't read your link, but I think I heard it has only been tried on 3 people. No federal approval. But yes, after all the research with little results, it is nice to hear of something with promise.

Title: Re: Leukemia cure?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/11/11 at 12:53:25

You guys dont remember how HIV got started do you?
Back in the day, in several large cities, the goobs Announced the had a Vaccine they could give to people who lived an "At Risk" Lifestyle. ALL you had to do was go in & theyd Give you a shot. In a couple of years, aids was popping up on a large scale. If youre 56 or older, THINK & TRY to remember,., I remember..I saw it. But, by the time the disease started growing at "Scary" speeds, I had forgotten the vaccine for free program.. I finally remembered it.

Magic Johnson, diagnosed with Aids/HIV,, went away,, didnt see or hear from him for years. One day I was over at a friends house & he wa being interviewed, first one after years of being out of the public eye.

Interviewer says
You dont look sick,, Others with you problem dont look good.

Magic said

They gave me the cure

Interview didnt last too long & Magic again disappeared from the public eye.

Title: Re: Leukemia cure?
Post by arteacher on 08/11/11 at 13:34:51

I will believe it when I see it. My wife has MS. Some of the "cures" have been ridiculous. Bee stings, decompression, and surgery on the blood vessels in the neck are some of the most popular cons for treatment. My wife's team of doctors here at University Hospital are some of the top leaders in MS research and that was the first thing they said-" there is no cure and very little available for relief of symptoms. You will waste your money on crackpot treatments."
I personally feel that stem cell research will bring a renaissance to medicine.
Screwing around with bad viruses is a ticket to disaster, simply because we have no treatments that can get rid of viruses like we do with bacteria.
Just watch the movie "I am legend".

Title: Re: Leukemia cure?
Post by Bubba on 08/12/11 at 07:11:27

I read this article...very interesting. The main thing I came away with was that it totally used the body's on defense mechanism (modified white blood cells) to destroy the cancer cells.
In addition it was privately funded because the pharmas weren't interested (considered "too risky"). That is the reason only 3 patients have been exposed to this.
I betcha they would rather have a "treatment" over a cure any day...just my 2 cents.
I was kind of surprised that it had very little media attencion but then again it is in the research phase...

Title: Re: Leukemia cure?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/12/11 at 07:49:30

Some MS cases are the result of heavy metals & pesticide exposures. IF that applies to anyone you know,, then Ill ask my Dr if there is hope, IIRC, she did say she could arrest it. IF its metals/pesticide induced.

Title: Re: Leukemia cure?
Post by Boofer on 08/12/11 at 20:15:23

As someone with a couple of chronic conditions, I want to bring a positive thought to this. It is hard to be positive when a loved one is hurting, and I am sorry for that. I have a 28 yr old friend who had back surgery for a ruptured disc yesterday. Sent home the same day and no pain. In 1979 I stayed in the hospital with the same surgery for a week and had less pain than before. You guys remember the "lifting body" from the Weekly Reader in 5th grade? It became the Space Transportation System that we call the shuttle. I often think of people in other countries who don't even have an aspirin or water to wash it down. Some cancers once thought untreatable are now very curable. I have two friends who came through awful surgeries and weeks of chemo who are now doing great. Think positive, if you can. I don't always. But I know I should. ihth

Title: Re: Leukemia cure?
Post by prsavage on 08/17/11 at 12:33:02

697670776A6D5C6C5C64767A31030 wrote:

AIDS did not get its start as a government vaccination program. When did you say this happened? Given that the world's first known AIDS death was in 1959, all the people age 56 or over would have to have been very young children to remember any type of program. The first US infection is believed to have been in the early to mid sixties with his death coming in 1969.

HIV-1 is thought to be a mutation of two or more types of SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus). The unlucky mutation (for humans) is that it was then able to cross species. There have been numerous diseases which have attained this genetic feat. Avian bird flu, anyone? The history of SIV has been traced back 32,000 years. The whole picture about the exact origin of the disease and the jump to humans will likely never be more than theory, but just knowing where it came from helps researchers move forward to learn how to stop it.

So, definitively NO. It was not a government "vaccine".

Title: Re: Leukemia cure?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/17/11 at 13:40:42

Okay,, sorry,, let me rephrase that,, yes, it existed,, but only after they offered a vaccination did it explode.