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Title: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by weracerc on 08/10/11 at 13:46:04 Ok my MC genious's where do you get Shell Rotella for MC? I have looked at NAPA, Advance Auto, Auto Zone, Oreilly's, Car Quest......i am doing my 4th oil change along with the verslavy tonight - will need the oil tomorrow...please tell me what viscosity and or any other pertanent info i need and where to get it...I have been using Valvoline 10w40 4 stroke motorcycle oil since i got the bike...6900 miles now at 11K ( ihave been changing the oil every 1500 miles)...heard the Rotella cleans the engine out a little better....if that is not true and there is no real reason to change from what I have been using them convince me. Thanks for your help....I know it is coming! |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by EJID on 08/10/11 at 13:46:48 I've bought both the Dino and Synthetic version at Wal-Mart ;D (Borrowed from one of Oldfeller's post) Blue jug synthetic is 5w-40 (Rotella T6) White jug dino is 15w-40 (Rotella T) http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee346/3dman7/af133c95.jpg |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by bill67 on 08/10/11 at 13:54:20 At any Dollar Store. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/10/11 at 14:12:08 Rotella products are available at WalMart, at Autozone and at Advanced Auto in the diesel oil section -- not in the car oil section. Not every individual store always stocks all the Rotella products at all times (they have a problem of selling out) but you have at least one store of each of these chains in your town that carries the white jug 15w-40 Rotella dino and a few blue jugs of the Rot Syn routinely. Rot Syn sells out quick, so you will likely want to stock up some if you see it sitting on the shelf. You can buy them at any interstate truck stop. You can buy them at any large truck repair shop or fleet sales office. You can buy them at the places that sell large diesel equipment such as Caterpillar, John Deer or Freightliner. Your SAMS WAREHOUSE STORE has it in case lots. Google maps -- go to the web page and type in Rotella oil in Greensboro, NC and it will spot 4 places that are Rotella oil distributors within easy driving distance. ========= Bill, who in Greesboro NC stocks yer super-special commie red Klutz oil? |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by verslagen1 on 08/10/11 at 14:43:23 I forget if it was the Kommie red stuff or the amish oil that I got out of TN. Don't know if it was stocked there or drop shipped from the fact tree. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/10/11 at 14:45:44 Tractor Supply or wal mart. Its available at autoparts stores, but costs more, None of my gallons have Motorcycle on them,, but the stuff inside works fine. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by BillF6531 on 08/10/11 at 16:20:37 I've used the Rotella T-6 synthetic in three bikes now. A Suzuki Marauder 250, Honda Rebel 250, and now in my current S40. Each bike has made less mechanical noise with the T-6. It conforms to the JASO MA specification. Here's the definition: http://www.oilspecifications.org/jaso.php |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by bill67 on 08/10/11 at 18:42:55 Rotentella oil might,I say might be ok for 250cc but a 650cc I don't know about that. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by BillF6531 on 08/10/11 at 18:52:40 Well, Rotella is good enough for a Dodge Cummins diesel running 25 pounds of boost, so I'm confident in its ability to lube a 652cc motorcycle. The JASO MA certification only enhances that. That said, tell us what you don't know. I'm sure one of the gurus around here will help you out. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/10/11 at 19:07:12 Numerical Bill, you are talking to yourself while attempting to convince yourself of something you are completely unwilling to believe. Still, you may have better luck with yourself than any of the rest of us ever have .... ;) rodentella, that was actually pretty cute |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by SuperSavage on 08/10/11 at 19:42:15 I purchase mine from Walmart for ~$21.XX/gallon. They do sell out from time to time, unlike their competitors. The rest of the shelves are brimming with oil but the poor ole Rotella T6 is scarce due to its popularity. Money well spent! BTW... does anyone use it in their car? Are the additives safe for a catalytic converter? |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Gyrobob on 08/10/11 at 19:47:53 43484D4D1716210 wrote:
An interesting take on the subject,.. I would love to be enlightened on how you arrived at such a conclusion. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/10/11 at 20:05:14 SuperSavage, The amounts of ZDDP contained in diesel oils are potentially harmful to type 2 catalytic converters if your car is modern enough to have one on it. Having said that, my 1990 and 1998 Acuras have both run their cat converters into the ground long long long ago ... Both are running Rot Syn T6 for years now and both pass their annual exhaust sniff tests every year, so as we likes to say ..... it ain't recommended by the manufacturer, but .... "You pays your money and you takes your chances -- your mileage may vary." Also note, every 2 years I change the oil filter and I keep the oil between the marks on the dip sticks at all times -- both cars use enough oil that changing it isn't necessary as I functionally change the oil several times a year by periodic replacement. I just add more as needed. The oil never gets fully filthy dirty dark, it just gets sorta dim. Speaking of Rot Syn, old cars and cat converters -- old valve stem seals drip and old rings blow oil by and Rot Syn can go through the combustion process without being destroyed and it remains a liquid that builds up in the exhaust system in normal around town short haul driving. It drips occasionally from the tiny water drain points in the stainless steel exhaust system on my 1990 Acura. Go on an interstate trip however and about a half hour into the 75mph+ driving you notice the residual oil burning out of the oil saturated beads in the cat converter when it finally gets hot enough to ignite and burn like a new cat converter does all the time. 5 minutes of Skeeeeeeeeeeter Foggggger flying down the road !!! |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Africord on 08/11/11 at 06:52:28 If you are concerned that a bigger displacement bike can't use this oil, then stop by some of the other bike sites. I know there are strong contingents that use it in 800, 1100, and 1300 cc bikes. Personally, I use T6 in my VFR800 and regularly wind the bike to 7,000 RPM (redline is 11,500). The VFR develops 3 times the horsepower of the Savage/S40. The only reason I didn't stick in my wife's Savage is that I had other motorcycle oil I wanted to use up and she doesn't ride that many miles. I'll move her bike to T6 in the spring. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by mg66 on 08/11/11 at 08:14:34 I use Rotella T6 in my SV650S and has way smoother shift changes. I buy it at Walmart for around the $20 a big container (a gallon I think). Here is what I posted on SVRider some time ago. Rotella is the sh*t according to some. Apparently it does everything including increase libido, increases a full cup size for the ladies, prevents acne, cures rabies, grows back limbs, removes warts and makes a great contraceptive to name but a few uses. Oh and you can put it in your SV if you so desire. This elixir truly is the wonder of modern man ... and yes, I do use Rotella. Why? Its oil and it's as cheap as anything else and sells at Wally's |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by bill67 on 08/11/11 at 08:35:27 Its cheap that the reason most people use it.Then they give you all kinds of reasons why they use it. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Bubba on 08/11/11 at 08:58:29 and what's wrong with cheap if it works? |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by babyhog on 08/11/11 at 09:25:15 28227373450 wrote:
Put me down for 3 gallons please... ;) |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by loopedguru on 08/11/11 at 11:42:00 I run it in my Kawi Concours C10 and have never had an issue. Once I read about the Jason specs and the fact they don't put it on the lable for (motorcycle specific) marketing purposes, I was sold!! The label doesn't say Motorbike but the specifications on the website screams it. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by bill67 on 08/11/11 at 13:11:06 7370706F7A7B786A6D6A1F0 wrote:
What oil have you had an issue with? |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Sunchasers on 08/11/11 at 13:15:47 "One, Two, Three, Four... don't declare 'nuther oil War! " :-/ |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/11/11 at 15:48:23 5, 6, 7, 8, ..... we just declare a Bill Debate !! The rules of a Bill Debate are that you have to Try To Answer Bill's Question if you choose to respond to it at all -- a mental challenge some times I know. It is allowable to either explain his question or ask him to clarify his question if it isn't "legible". Good luck -- and since it isn't a declared oil war you have to be "relatively nice" to your opponents. ====================== Bill, I have had an issue with Quaker State Multi-weight dino oil, what was then considered a very good American brand of 10w40 dino oil that turned into jelly in the crankcase of a relatively new Ford Taurus while I was on vacation in the Tennessee mountains (headed up the 20 mile grade from Maggie Valley to Pidgeon Forge). I have not used dino oil since that point in time as I consider the HEAT RESISTANT nature of synthetic oils to be a "very good thing" that I will not do without. I think that any dino oil in the crankcase of a car is 1) a dangerously expensive risk and 2) a "change it very often or die" money waster. I also think motorcycle engines get stressed more so than car engines ever do, and have opportunities to run hotter if you are running them at speed. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Gyrobob on 08/11/11 at 17:17:59 252E2B2B7170470 wrote:
BILL67 What's different about the oil for a 250cc vs a 650cc bike? Assume they are both aircooled and have the engine and transmission using the same oil. For example, why would you use different oil in a Honda Rebel as opposed to an LS650? |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by SuperSavage on 08/11/11 at 19:47:25 If you can purchase a QUALITY synthetic motor oil with JASO-MA for a reasonable price, why not use that over a lesser dino in your bike? I have run Rotella T-6 in my S40 & Vulcan 800A for a while now, and they runs strong and free. What say you? 8-) |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/11/11 at 20:14:44 Bill, The boys are a wait'n fer ya ta answer -- they'se been nice and polite, so you gotta write mor'n a sentence now to answer them. <hee hee> ;) it hurts Bill's fingers to type more'n a few words at a time ..... |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by bill67 on 08/11/11 at 23:51:15 5F7A7D7B7B6C76746127252424150 wrote:
What oil did you use where the engine didn't run strong and free. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Gyrobob on 08/12/11 at 07:21:16 Bill? |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/12/11 at 08:11:12 My minds eye sees him sitting, elbows on the bar, crying in a mug of Klotz. Hey, Bill,, you know Im just goofin,, dont get bent outta shape, |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Gyrobob on 08/12/11 at 12:00:26 6B747275686F5E6E5E66747833010 wrote:
Maybe he just doesn't have an answer. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/12/11 at 12:28:55 :-? Why Bill won't debate with you -- he can't take it no more !!! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RpeUzrqPbQ&feature=related[/media] |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Boule’tard on 08/12/11 at 12:41:14 6C5259444944492B0 wrote:
Now now there, Tsk Tsk, it's not Bill's fault if you don't get it. Rotella is Diesel oil you see, made for powerful yet slow-turning Diesel engines. No good at all for those lower powered high-revving motorcycle engines.. unless it's a 250. 250 good. 650 bad. Truck motor good again. ;D |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by bill67 on 08/12/11 at 12:52:51 Lets all go to the dollar store,Lets all go to the dollar store,Lets all go to the dollar store,To get us some Rotentella oil. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/12/11 at 12:55:31 Boule, When you are trying to speak for Bill, a wappin' and a moving your little Bill puppet's mouth open and shut and waving his little Bill puppet hands around --- question is " Does you little Bill like it?" Warning: don't play the attached video -- it is worse than the old man video and it certainly constitutes little Bill abuse .... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91pYfHvtJ4U[/media] |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Gyrobob on 08/12/11 at 13:00:43 2E23392029382D3E284C0 wrote:
Now now there, Tsk Tsk, it's not Bill's fault if you don't get it. Rotella is Diesel oil you see, made for powerful yet slow-turning Diesel engines. No good at all for those lower powered high-revving motorcycle engines.. unless it's a 250. 250 good. 650 bad. Truck motor good again. ;D[/quote] Ah. That explains it. 250s were originally 2-stroke motors, so the carbon slipperage is not sequential enough for 650s,... therefore if you buy your 650 in India (Altius Scimitar 670cc diesel) they are all multi-oil regimented,.. and,.. therefore didactically compatible with the more recent imbedments of pheromonic friction reduction polymers. The beauty of it all is that the Altius Scimitar is both a 650 (670 actually) AND a diesel, so you can have your cake and heat it due to fewer cracking requirements. Anyway, the only new information here is. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Gyrobob on 08/12/11 at 13:08:14 587B7371727B7B7265170 wrote:
I don't want to debate the issue! I just want to learn!. Bill knows something I have yet to understand, and, being a long-term motorcycle enthusiast, I have this deep rooted hunger for any information dealing with our 2-wheeled conveyances. He knows some gem of info about why a 250 has different needs for its life blood than does a 650. I am DYING to know that gem. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/12/11 at 13:30:54 Now you are getting too close to the real painful truth -- the sort of truth that makes puppet Bill cringe to even try to remember it .... Bill started out with 250 dirtbike this and 250 dirtbike that and then he moved over to snowmobiles in the winter season .... so all his learning experiences with the 250 engines were consistent and that is where he originally met his Techniplate based red wonder stuff. Bill really hates spooge and he came to love the red stuff's distinctive smell when you get up into the powerband and the pipe is really throating well. Plus, if you send in a few labels off the bottle they will send you a big red sticker to put on your bike .... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylXyzQAkBrE[/media] |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Boule’tard on 08/12/11 at 13:42:51 18262D303D303D5F0 wrote:
;D Precisely. There is a band of viscoelastic impermeability that coincides only with the resonant philharmonic frequency of the 650cc engine (with stock cooling fins), when combined with the cheap bituminous resins found in Rotella, forms a cruft of malodorous frugality, resulting in loss of cup size, and excessive adiabatic pressure, causing the release of hydrocarbons from one's gas cap, and ass. That is what Bill was trying to say, but had to dumb it down a little. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by bill67 on 08/12/11 at 13:44:06 Klotz has only made synthetic oil and has for almost 50 years,Rodendella just figured it out,In another 50 years they might figure out how to get it right. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/12/11 at 13:48:38 Bill, I'm not going to throw rocks at Klotz 2 stroke oil, I used it in my RD400 and I loved it. Best thing since sliced bread for a 2 stroke motor .... But Bill -- the Savage is a big bore 4 stroke motor that spins at the same rpm range as, well, a big diesel engine spins. Big 4 inch pistons at about 6,500 rpm -- very much same-same. Needs the same sorta oil properties, don't cha know it? No "ring ding ding ding ding ..... raaaaaaaaaaaa ring ding ding a ding". |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by bill67 on 08/12/11 at 13:49:52 K-Y jelly blended with extra virgin olive oil would work in a twin 250cc engine,With two little bitty pistons. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Gyrobob on 08/12/11 at 13:55:38 707B7E7E2425120 wrote:
Shell Oil, Inc., bought Klotz Synthetic Lubricants, Inc. lock stock and barrel a few years ago. They put the whole Klotz staff in one of the Shell HQ break rooms. ::) Do a little research on what characteristics oil is supposed to have in aircooled (meaning sometimes really hot) motorcycle powerplants where the transmission uses the same oil and the clutch is wet, and you'll see that Rotella synthetic is perfect for that environment. If they changed it any, it wouldn't work as well as it does now. There are several sites on the internet where engineers explain why Rotella (and, to be fair, other diesel oils) are really good oils for wet-clutch motorcycles. The fact that you can buy the oil at Walmart for about the price of a burger is just icing on the cake. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/12/11 at 13:58:29 K-Y jelly, huh? Quit thinkin' about that poor puppet's piteous squealing sounds when that big ol' bony wrist wrenched and twisted its way on inside .... Focus on the bikes and the oils they need instead. 2 stroke = Klotz, 4 stroke = Rotella Savage = 4 stroke |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Boule’tard on 08/12/11 at 14:47:31 1C2229343934395B0 wrote:
Shell Oil, Inc., bought Klotz Synthetic Lubricants, Inc. lock stock and barrel a few years ago. They put the whole Klotz staff in one of the Shell HQ break rooms. ::) [/quote] LMAO ;D |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by ero4444 on 08/13/11 at 07:31:02 616C766F6677627167030 wrote:
;D Precisely. There is a band of viscoelastic impermeability that coincides only with the resonant philharmonic frequency of the 650cc engine (with stock cooling fins), when combined with the cheap bituminous resins found in Rotella, forms a cruft of malodorous frugality, resulting in loss of cup size, and excessive adiabatic pressure, causing the release of hydrocarbons from one's gas cap, and ass. [/quote] ok now somewhere in the middle of these two posts I crapped myself laffing so hard. I think it was at the "band" in italics |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Gyrobob on 08/13/11 at 09:44:15 Okay, okay,.... ::) Bill67 is keeping his knowledge a secret. >:( Do any of the rest of you have any idea why a Suzuki TU250X (250cc aircooled single) would need a different kind of oil than a Savage? btw -- that tu250 would make a tidy little cafe racer, eh? |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by runwyrlph on 08/13/11 at 10:40:48 Is the blue Rotella what we use now? After i bought 55gal of the white stuff! >:( :) |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/13/11 at 12:12:29 No, not really -- white jug dino 15w40 is jest fine for a stock savage. When you are a beating up on the hand puppet when he's a toutin' Klutz, you gotta talk a better synthetic back at him -- and that means the blue jug Rot Syn T6. Keep yer existing Rot T 15w40 barrel in your garage as GOOD TO GO, it will last you the rest of your riding career if you jest use it fer yer bike. ;D |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by runwyrlph on 08/13/11 at 12:31:07 well, i may have exagerated a little bit ;D |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by bill67 on 08/13/11 at 17:53:00 Your go through that 55 gallons pretty fast. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by runwyrlph on 08/13/11 at 19:54:46 perhaps my have :-? |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/13/11 at 20:06:32 I bought pretty close to 15 gallons a few years ago,, then restocked with 8 or so last year.. the backhoe , pickup , ridin lawnmower, 4 wheeler & zuki all run on it. I woulda never found it if not for Someone ( Now who could thata been?) on this forum? Its ( IMO) the best Bang fo the buck oil purchase out there.. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/14/11 at 00:35:13 ;D |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by papi_ocho on 08/14/11 at 06:04:39 Yup, bang for the buck, available everywhere, can be used in everything. 5 bikes and 5 years and maybe 30k miles later all they have seen from me is rotella, and my 06 mustang (rip) and my 98 wrangler (rip). Except My CRV has 180k and has only seen honda oil since I've owned it. 9 years and about 140k. Runs like a champ! |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/14/11 at 06:19:51 My 1990 Acura Legend has 230,000 miles on it and runs (completely through it from engine to exhaust pipe tip) Rot Syn T6. Car is old enough to drink liquor and buy pistols now -- still running strong. Fan thermostat went out on it and the fans didn't run for a bit -- no worries, Rot Syn didn't care about 350+ degrees, still a couple of hundred degrees left before syn oil even starts to take harm. I had an old beater Datsun pickup truck that I used to put in the oil I took out of the Acura (during warranty period I changed it according to the book and kept all the barely dingy oil) and the bottom radiator hose on the truck popped on me in traffic and I drove it 3 miles home anyway. Got so hot it melted the plastic parts in the distributor when I shut it down -- $32 worth of rotor buttons and cap and points and I was back in business as the syn oil didn't permit the engine proper to take any hurt at all. Dino oil kills vehicles when shite like this happens -- syn oil doesn't even notice it. =============== Justin, I like the way you are pointing out the spammers on the list by posting it on the list itself in caps, it makes main phaser fire control response a lot quicker (and Zulu and Scotty can know to load the photon torpedoes a lot faster too). |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by mg66 on 08/14/11 at 06:41:11 687F616F6F63750C0 wrote:
Spray paint the barrel blue and write T6 in crayon on it. Problem solved :P |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Gyrobob on 08/14/11 at 10:41:47 Well, since no one, including bill, has made any input on the "different oil for a 250" issue, I declare the issue settled, and the issue concludes with the following statement: being there is no difference in oil requirements for a 250cc bike vs a 650cc bike. whew! |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/14/11 at 11:25:00 ;D ;D ;D I think Bill is either afraid of you, or he's afraid of the question -- one or the other --- he's afraid of it. Not even to get a one liner back out of him -- oh well .... 8-) |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by arteacher on 08/14/11 at 11:44:43 707D677E7766736076120 wrote:
;D Precisely. There is a band of viscoelastic impermeability that coincides only with the resonant philharmonic frequency of the 650cc engine (with stock cooling fins), when combined with the cheap bituminous resins found in Rotella, forms a cruft of malodorous frugality, resulting in loss of cup size, and excessive adiabatic pressure, causing the release of hydrocarbons from one's gas cap, and ass. That is what Bill was trying to say, but had to dumb it down a little. [/quote] Ahhhhahahahahaha. I just choked on my toast! ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oldfeller on 08/14/11 at 12:02:18 what? you don't get it? oh well, some people have to be able to visualize a joke to get it ..... note: Bill is sleeping in his red Klotz cap again -- notice how he risks his hand to rescue his cap from the blaze [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3obYhJ2x1wE[/media] |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by verslagen1 on 08/14/11 at 12:37:53 0B2820222128282136440 wrote:
Since most his answers come out the south end of a north bound bill... I think he's constipated. Bill a teaspoon a klotz will fix that ;D |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by wickedbiker on 05/25/14 at 10:31:39 I am going to switch over to Rotella. I live in a hot climate and use 20/15-50/40 in my bikes. My question is wohld rotella T be ok The 15w-40 or only The t6? 5w oil doesnt do too good for me with older engines in constant 90 degree weather |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by WD on 05/25/14 at 23:08:24 Regular old T 15W40 is fine. Even Super Tech (Walmart house label) 15W40 is fine. When I bought my 98 in Biloxi MS, the dealer's factory race team mechanic told me to run 20W50 from April to November, and 15W40 the rest of the time. That bike has a fragged electrical system, but the engine guts are flawless... no carbon build up, no odd noises, always shifted well unless the linkage was bending, valves never needed adjusted, etc. My 03 that was fed a steady diet of T6 5W40 misses a lot of shifts. But it is getting better as the additive pack washes off the clutch plates, I figure one more oil change and it will be fine. I've put right at 2100 miles on it in a month and a half. It could seriously use an upgrade to 20W50, the 15W40 seems a mite thin, but finding decent 20W50 around here isn't easy. If I still had any left from my Harley riding days, I'd be using Cessna 60W like I did in my Knuckles, Pans, Shovels, Scouts, Chiefs and Ironhead Sportsters. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oscar Johnson on 05/31/14 at 08:39:22 Using the Rotella Triple 15w40, do you need to use an additive or using it straight up is ok? Read that a ZDDP booster may be needed. BTW, this is my 1st post, the info on this site so far has been priceless! Oscar |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by S-P on 05/31/14 at 08:58:55 4D5A5B4C4745424E2F0 wrote:
Welcome, Oscar! Yeah, this is a cool place! From what I've read Rotella has 1250ppm, 1500 is optimal if you're anal about it, but straight up is fine. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oscar Johnson on 05/31/14 at 09:16:58 Thanks for the quick reply S-P! I am actually a gear head of the Street Machine type, but my brother gave me his '97 Savage. 10,900 on the clock, beautiful shape, and a Raptor petcock on the way. Heard that is a must! Have gas in my oil and so am going to AutoZone right now for the oil. Thanks again! |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by S-P on 05/31/14 at 09:22:44 4B5C5D4A41434448290 wrote:
WOW! Free Savage?! Awesome! At 10K check your chain tensioner before going on a long cruise or riding it like an Apaloosa! An exploded tensioner is a career ending injury. |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/14 at 12:19:46 Its $13.95 at the local Wal Mart right now,, |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by shorty on 05/31/14 at 12:57:22 5043070 wrote:
AeroShell Oil 15W-50 is a premium semi-synthetic for piston engines, no idea on how much zddp though.. I've put LOTS of aeroshell 60wt into puddle-jumpers |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by Oscar Johnson on 06/01/14 at 13:09:42 You guys are the best, thanks for the help! |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by wambr on 06/09/14 at 09:48:39 and my question is this: now this oil can be used in the SAVAGE? like on marks API, JASO suitable for use, but I still have a small doubt. can you clarify? I have not used this oil... about it: "LOW EMISSION THE EXTENDED SERVICE LIFE - PROTECTION Triple Protection Technology For heavy-duty diesel engines Shell Rotella T Triple Protection - fully synthetic oils developed on the basis of low ash technologies "Low SAPS" and provide protection under the most difficult conditions of the modern engines. Special protection is provided synthetic base oils "Group II" and a complex of additives. This ensures protection from wear, to control deposits and resistance to fracture at high temperatures . Exclusive low ash formula helps protect the exhaust catalysts and controls education exhaust gases. Recommended by leading OEM manufacturers. API: CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF; SM, SL, SJ, SH; ACEA: E9, E7 JASO DH-2, MA; Caterpillar: ECF-1A, ECF-2, ECF-3; Cummins: CES 20081 DDC: 93K218; Deutz: DQC III-05 MACK: EO-O Premium Plus Ford: WSS-M2C171-E; MAN: M3575; MB 228.31; MTU: Category 2; Renault Trucks: RLD-3 ; Volvo VDS-4 " http://img.exist.ru/img.jpg?Key=01591/A75016EB.JPG&Size=1600x1400&MethodType=8 |
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Title: Re: Shell Rotella - where can i get it? Post by verslagen1 on 06/09/14 at 10:22:00 594F434C5C2E0 wrote:
Per the owners manual, we require JASO MA spec oil, no more no less. If there's any doubt, this oil has been used in m/c's for decades. While the additives are specifically for diesels (long range commercial) they do not detract from our use, in fact they are a benefit. And on the Rotella forum, there was a question as to the applicability of the oil for m/c's that led to the addition of the JASO MA spec to the back of the bottle. Case closed! |
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